Bottega Veneta Pre-Fall 2021 Berlin

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  1. deango

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  3. dontbeadrag

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    Can't say this is total trash, but there is a thing or two to fix in every look, we get that sleekness and idea is there, but he needs more tailoring and sexy in his clothes. I don't like ruffles/feathers anything here and the faux fur coats, looks too much "faux fashionistas trying to replicate 'the look' from Boohoo and Asos". If you gotta do faux fur/fleece, at least try a better texture that looks like actual fur, not pubes.
    Anok is the only one serving it here, she looks radiant in the red dress. I wish we'd have less Adut and more Anok. She is so high fashion.
     
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    IloveDiorHomme Well-Known Member

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    Is this the collection shown in Berlin that provoked a scandal ?
     
  5. Lola701

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    Great collection!
    I must say that this looks more like a precollection (because of the reworked versions of old silhouettes) than a runway collection tho.

    That being said, the clothes are simple, perfect and honest. Maybe the kinda of tinsel embellishments are a bit gimmicky but I think that it’s very solid.

    There’s a funny paradox about BV...The clothes have a timeless appeal and the accessories that are eye-catching, but still very much ugly, will look dated in 2 years.

    But the attitude is very much perfect and I kinda like the fact that there’s a brand selling that much right now without a logo! It’s the perfect and needed antidote in Kering.
     
  6. avonlea002

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    He must be trolling because I refuse to believe there are people who are buying this overpriced pile of sh*t. I have already said it but Daniel is a one hit wonder. After the amazing debut his tenure has been nothing but constant disappointment. I don't understand why he suddenly changed direction and stopped designing in the spirit of Gucci by TF. It worked and gave his collections much needed dose of sex and sleekness.
     
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    I really like this collection. While it's still very products focus, the techniques he use for each garments make them more interesting. Love the colors palette, a pop of bright colors to balance all the black outfits. Love that black coat with green leather wraparound detail. And that green suits.

    Daniel Lee no doubt the best designer out of the Phoebe camp. He have that sense of humor and willing to take risk while the rest of them can be trying to hard to capture that minimalism aesthetic of Phoebe.

    But he need a better accessories teams. The shoes from the beginning are just not appealing. It's just chunky and ugly. The bags are okay.
     
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  8. HelgaZ

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    Yes.
     
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    ^ Imagine breaking the law just to show a collection that looks like department store clearance sale.
     
  10. HelgaZ

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    You're absolutely right. These green plush bathrobe, slippers, mittens and jacket are total trash, I must say.
     
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  11. Frederic01

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    No, this is the Pre-Fall collection which Bottega refers to as "Wardrobe". The main collection is referred to as "Salon", and the photos of the Salon 02 collection (the show in Berlin) will be released later in the year.
     
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    Oh, I'm sorry
     
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    Random and ugly as it gets, his use of fur and feathers is just hideous, the overuse of that awful shade of green is a perfect match for the vomit inducing shoes, they look like Party City dutch clogs or gardening/geriatric footwear. The only sort of passable things are Hyun Ji Shin's first two coats and Anok's beige ensemble...

    I conclude Bottega taking forever to release pictures and the instagram thing is surely just a way to stretch what little hype remains for as long as they can but with collections as incredibly dull as these, it's a lost cause.
     
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    Dramatically ugly. And it's ugly just for the sake of it, it's not thought-provoking or challenging in any way. The sense of humour is there, but it's so weird that it's not helping. Those feather looks are tortured and actually it applies to this whole collection. Personally speaking, I can't see the hype of Bottega as a long-time phenomenon a'la Balenciaga. I feel like people are finally getting aware that it's a visual scam. Do you remember the necklace in the shape of a telephone cord? To me that was the turning point.
     
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    ugly, and not in a baleciaga ugly but cool way. just straight up ugly
     
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    I don’t get the « ugly » criticism...
    Yes there are some ugly in a « trying too hard » kind of way but the majority of this is very simple, long lasting classic silhouettes and pieces.
    I speak for me but it’s a general thing too but I think somebody buying clothes from BV has more chances to wear them again in 10 years than somebody buying Balenciaga’s Demna.

    Maybe the arrival of Mathieu Blazy has something to do with it. It’s his 3rd season already with Lee if I recall...

    The menswear is very Helmut Lang suddenly.
     
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    ^^^ The inclusion of "ugly" feels and looks so painfully contrived amongst the simpler, classic pieces. That's what I find so insufferable about this guy: He's a wannabe.

    I just can’t stand designers like him: They are decent, even solid designers in the American tradition of Calvin/Donna/Halston of clean, minimal lines and tailored silhouettes. But this new breed also are so desperate to be edgy and provocative in teh most shallow/hollow sense for the Insta/TikTok followers by forcing these extremely contrived “ugly” elements into the whole; The dumb-looking cutouts with the cheap tinsel-like feathers; the even dumber-looking Crocs-meets-Wellington rubber footwear; the juvenile Crayola color-palette. It’s so obnoxious and annoyingly jarring against the more tailored pieces like the decent camel-hair hour-glass suitings. And then throw in the pointless Helmut-staple menswear that’s been co-opted by countless brands that it’s just lazy at this point.
     
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  19. susseinmcswanny

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    Clown shoes for clowns, by clowns
     
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    I feel the trashy/ugly elements of this collection are clashing with those elegant/classic silhouette. Now I think the competition between the new Givenchy and the new Bottega officially started! Lol!
     

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