Christian Dior S/S 2017 Paris

Oh good grief, are there going to be two Valentino now? The show started off well enough, but it just turned into a rehash of collections past by look 8, I actually expected more from Maria this time, so I'm disappointed.
 
The only thing that I like is that she put the Bee into the collection making more cohesive with Dior Homme.

This collection is extremely well-made but it made me realize how gimmcky and how repetitive she can be. I mean, we will have to wait until Valentino's new collection and see. But the fact that she would just repeat her own idea from Valentino is just sad. Maybe the Valentino people are laughing so hard right now.

No, Valentino people are crying in Japanese because their new collection looks exactly like this and Dior shows first. bummer
 
i like some things but, yeah, seen it all already at valentino

i just hoped for...more ? don't understand how raf isn't liked so much here, i miss him SO bad
 
Can't even complain because technically it's not even that bad! It's just so boring and adds NOTHING to fashion.
 
Very Valentino... Also very Gucci. I actually fooled myself into thinking we were going to see something new today :ermm:
 
Newp.

This is just Valentino without the occasionally impressive details. Next please.

In essence. Any positive thing I could say about this is overshadowed by how heavily it's mimicked the aesthetic of the designer's previous abode. Truly baffling.
 
Christian Dior probably spun all the way around in his grave. And Valentino is probably in his mansion cackling. I actually like some of this--the fencing-inspired looks are cool. But tell me what business any of this has on a Dior catwalk?
 
It's just so out of place! Honestly, I don't even know why they went with the idea as she didn't even bother to expand on it.

The redeeming feature of this collection is of course the fact that she just about cleared up the debate regarding who the mastermind behind Valentino's women collection was. Yet at the same time quadrupling the stakes for Pierpaolo. No way could he continue even trying to replicate what they've (she's) been doing. He'll have to start beating his own drum and hope it's receptive, and that he doesn't lose regulars in the process. Because the way I see it, a army of regular Valentino customers are bound to jump ships, the type who lap up her '1001 variations of the same silhouette' season after season.

It's just silly, performative, marketplace feminism. We should all be feminists, eh? That sounds great coming from a brand controlled almost exclusively by men and a conglomerate that is also run by a male majority.
 
Dior is kind of done. I mean the brand still has its prestige but the last designers since Galliano are really hurting the brand. A shame. I just can't figure out an identity for this brand anymore.
 
I loved the collection (bar the last quarter) and I don't care what anyone else thinks.
 
Come on, really? I know that when Raf Simons showed his first collection for Dior everyone was screaming "this looks so Jil", but THIS is really Valentino no.2. Well, unfortunately it will sell for sure... The inspiration behind this had nothing to do with Dior, but sounded interesting. Although the effect is just boring. And every logomania thing from ugly font on the bags to undies straps(?) under skirts is sooo trying too hard to be "cool" and just bad. This collection sadly shows how commercialized fashion is right now. Those guys in the "no-head-designer" gap did better, more creative job than her.
 
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I liked many of the pieces and I'm waiting to see what she brings to the brand in the future. That said, Maria is very explicitly referencing the work of Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, a black woman, yet the show features an almost exclusively white cast with cornrows. Not so revolutionary to me... Hopefully, she looks at feminism with more nuance next time. I'm sure the pieces will sell like wildfire though.
 
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There are some things John made so his at Dior that new creative directors at the house shouldn't even touch--any graphic t-shirt with the word "Dior" on it or an "8" or the star motif (Dior is more than that anyway, try and find something new). Anything that says "J'adore" or a play on the word "Dior"--even the sheer dresses with the underwear, such a John thing, she should have really known to avoid that, especially considering it looks so Valentino.

While I've always hated Galliano's Dior (too OTT/costume-y for my liking), I do agree with you. Those elements are so "his", that it felt like she used them to prove that what she was showing was not a Valentino collection, but a Dior one.

I wasn't expecting much from her at Dior, to be fairly honest. I've always liked what she and Pierpaolo brought to Valentino, but I never thought that it would translate well into the Dior aesthetics. Guess she proved me right today, but I have no doubts that it will sell anyway.

Although, I am curious to see if Dior's communication will sightly shift from now on. Some pieces have the potential to speak to a younger demographic, and I wonder if it will make them target more aggressively young customers in their campaigns.

Now let's hope that her first Couture outing in January won't consist of solely embroidered dresses à la Valentino or I will simply stop checking out her work :lol:
 
I echo what has been said before me, this really feels like Valentino 2.0 And Valentino isn't even that exciting to begin with, so the last thing we need is this. And don't even get me started on the'we should all be feminists' t-shirt. While I obviously agree with the message, this should belong at H&M not Christian Dior.
 
the ' we should all be feminists' line is obviously absolutely true, but to write it on a T-Shirt at a Dior Show after you know that the Press has talked about you positively as a female designer at a storied French house comes across as such a cheap ploy to profit from that angle. I really wanted to like her at the house, but this does not bode well at all. There's barely a vision, or anything else for that matter. This is product, nothing else
 
the ' we should all be feminists' line is obviously absolutely true, but to write it on a T-Shirt at a Dior Show after you know that the Press has talked about you positively as a female designer at a storied French house comes across as such a cheap ploy to profit from that angle. I really wanted to like her at the house, but this does not bode well at all. There's barely a vision, or anything else for that matter. This is product, nothing else

Totally. This reminded me that she is an accessories designer after all, and is Italian, so totally of making commercially pretty pieces that will sell like hot cakes but not much in terms of originality. Even her take on romanticism seems too blatant to me.

But I am sure she will keep her job for a while designing like that, Dior has been too unstable since Gallianos scandal and the instability after Rafs departure. If she will stay and continue to churn out consistently beautiful clothes, then the instagram generation will lap it all up and translate to dollars and cents that Dior needs and she will be a happy woman and so will the heads at Dior.

The only shame is that Dior, being looked upon as the Leader of the pack amongst high fashion globally, now has lost its ultimate prestige and position that money cannot buy.
 

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