Designer John Galliano Arrested in Paris, fired from Dior

[IAmLordZen]

Vogue.it Reports the Video Was Sold

clearly profiting from the demise of another.. and it astounds me that LVMH can fire Galliano so easily when he has resurrected Dior some decade-and-a-half back. I was hoping that, like all scandals, this will eventually die down and Galliano slips back into his usual duties at Dior followed by maybe a stint in rehab but unfortunately.. again a reminder of how powerful these business gliteratti are.

 

[YoninahAliza]

I know understand we do not know all the details surrounding this event however when someone makes statements such a this, especially when their is a good amount of evidence, it is shameful that people don't see how offensive this is. Also, I don't think I'm attacking members for such statements. I'm just simply pointing out that perhaps if people took the time to research why making comments relating to the Holocaust is wrong and justification of the loss of a job then they wouldn't write such comments of TFS.
Also, this IS a personal issue to me. It's a personal issue to anyone who's ever been the victim of such attacks (whether about being Jewish or not) and believe me I have experienced such awful statements directed towards me. This is a personal issue to those who care about the fashion industry. We cannot let one man's statements go unpunished. For if you do- it only teaches people that they can get away with making such statements- and thus does nothing to eradicate such unpleasantness from the world.

 

[MsCrow]

The majority of members don't agree with the apparent evidence.

Should read
The majority of members don't agree with John's apparent actions

 

[sethii]

Doesn't matter if they sell the video that is their choice and, if they can legally do so, then good luck to them. I would be quite happy to be able to profit from a situation where I was verbally abused.

 

[Les_Sucettes]

What does that change, if they got paid for that video? I seriously don't understand how people can ignore what he said. He may have been provoked but he said what he had in mind. Nobody can make you say things like that if you don't believe in it.

I agree. And of course they got paid for the video. But people seem to forget that they are NOT the persons that filed complains against Galliano. Unless they have amazing powers of divination and would guess he would be accused of racial slurs of the same kind, i simply do not understand how they would have provoke him to say those things. I'm not even talking about the fact that no one can be baited to say this...

 

[iluvjeisa]

No, companies fire people for bringing the company into disrepute, and that's something that I wouldn't be surprised to find written into his contract somewhere. He was a, if not the, face of Dior and he has a responsibility to the company.

"Health problem" No health problem makes you anti-semitic. He may be unwell and if so I hope he does get the help he needs, it seems like he's on his way to rehab and I hope it does him some good. It does not however, excuse his actions.

You know, there are health problems that makes a person spout out things they don't believe in. Yes. There are health problems that makes a person kill another because they think a dog told them to. Really.

 

[yesitsdagny]

All I can say that those people who sold the video aren't any better than John. It's hypocritical to say they were insulted by Galliano's words and then happily take the money from the journalists. Those people should be as ashamed as Galliano if not even more, because we all could recognize in what conditions Galliano was but what is their excuse? If they really wanted to make this video public to show their resentment and and the fact that this offended them then they shouldn't have accepted the money for that. And I really liked Virginie Mouzat's article about this issue, I agree with everything she pointed out.

 

[modela]

What does that change, if they got paid for that video? I seriously don't understand how people can ignore what he said. He may have been provoked but he said what he had in mind. Nobody can make you say things like that if you don't believe in it.

Not condoning what he said as he is a grown man and honestly i don't feel sorry for him .I have said things that were insensitive (nothing racial) to a friend of mine while i was drunk , but that doesnt mean i meant what i was saying .

 

[m.j.]

aren't u all blowing this waaaaay out of proportions?
he may hate, that is his right. if he think Hitler is lovable, that is his right. and my grandfather was killed by the Germans, so i think i can talk about this with some perspective. John didn't kill anyone, he acted like an a$$, but he is not a politician and this should not affect on his career. if he refused to work with someone who is a Jew that would be a different thing. at the end of a day, he only hurt himself. i don't give a rat's **** for being politically correct, i just think less of him. why? cos he needs a good history lesson.

p.s. before u judge me, look at how many Serbs were killed by the Nazi. and i still think his words are pure crap.

 

[Les_Sucettes]

All I can say that those people who sold the video aren't any better than John. It's hypocritical to say they were insulted by Galliano's words and then happily take the money from the journalists. Those people should be as ashamed as Galliano if not even more, because we all could recognize in what conditions Galliano was but what is their excuse? If they really wanted to make this video public to show their resentment and and the fact that this offended them then they shouldn't have accepted the money for that. And I really liked Virginie Mouzat's article about this issue, I agree with everything she pointed out.

Where they insulted? What resentment are we talking about here? This people did nothing more than recognise that they had a video where he was spouting the same type of abuse that he was being accused in the last incident and sold it.

 

[agee]

He must be held up to the same standards as everyone else.

I think that John Galliano should be held to a higher standard than everyone else and he was: he was suspended and then fired from Dior and because of Natalie's Portman's condemnation of him, his drunken comments that the people sitting with him found humorous at the time aired on mainstream television in the US and presumably in other countries. Personally I am fine with LVMH / Dior suspending and then firing Galliano from Dior and actually stated about the suspension that I respected Dior's management for "taking the matter seriously and taking such a strong and swift action" but IMO extreme reactions whether pro or con, in regards to a matter that is still unfolding and that just came to light less than a week ago actually makes me understand how the Hitlers of the world can come to power and get enough people on their side to then commit the atrocities that they do.

I am all for people having principles and having lines that can't be crossed and once that line is crossed that friend, acquaintance, employer, role model, celebrity, or whatever becomes persona non grata to them, my only question is for anyone who finds the statement "I love Hitler" irredeemably reprehensible, do you patronize Chanel in any way, shape or form, do you buy the clothes, accessories, perfume, watch the shows, click on Chanel related threads on tFS and other we sites?

 

[Thefrenchy]

All I can say that those people who sold the video aren't any better than John. It's hypocritical to say they were insulted by Galliano's words and then happily take the money from the journalists. Those people should be as ashamed as Galliano if not even more, because we all could recognize in what conditions Galliano was but what is their excuse? If they really wanted to make this video public to show their resentment and and the fact that this offended them then they shouldn't have accepted the money for that. And I really liked Virginie Mouzat's article about this issue, I agree with everything she pointed out.

This comment is just... Ignorant. What you're saying is that, at the end of the day, selling a video is as wrong as anti-semitic insults? Good God, I should just leave this thread because it just makes me angry.

I can't believe that so many people here are, sorry to say but, blind enough (not to say stupid) to try to find excuses to this. ANTISEMITISM IS A SERIOUS ISSUE. IT LED TO THE DEATH OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. One shouldn't excuse him just because he makes nice dresses. That's just sickening to me.

 

[jiaqi]

at this point this matters a lot more than the petty racism of in the drunk mind of john galliano (this guy is so inconsequential at this point that his obituary would read the same if it is written today or twenty years from now).

and as a person who has endured racial (but verbal) attacks in several different countries and in many different contexts (while walking, while driving, while in a classroom), i cannot summon one ounce of sympathy for the offended jews because i know what verbally assaulted them in that video could harm them much less than the racist forces in mass media, in european legal system and western commercial organizations - which are processing the case with such bloodthirst and blatant double standard - can and will the asians and gypsies and is much less of a reality than the latter.

john galliano is finished, over, done, goner, no more important than a sewer rat henceforth. i am no more apprehensive of this guy than the people who have actually attacked me in my life: teenagers, drunks, bums, or idiots. i wave them off and cannot even get agitated enough to hate them. those who want to work me up to hate these insignificant lowlives - those people i hold in greatest suspicion, particularly when they demand me to feel their pain while they themselves show utter callousness to the racist attacks against other races and when they invest such resources and energies to manipulate me and disguise their double standard

there is no race war between the jews and john galliano. there is one between asians and jews now

 

[CholoChic]

Most of us don´t try to find excuses,
what he said is wrong.

But I as said i just wanna understand him.

Because finally nobody has died because this drunk man
is insulting people,
but if a famous drunk man insults people
they just can say that they were in shock
(even if they sounds sarcastics in that video )
and earn a lot of money, money, money,
because his tragedy revolves around money
not around the damaged spirit of a man (as it should be),
who once make us dream and showed us
to love diversity from Asia to Perú, from gipsies to homeless.

This comment is just... Ignorant. What you're saying is that, at the end of the day, selling a video is as wrong as anti-semitic insults? Good God, I should just leave this thread because it just makes me angry.

I can't believe that so many people here are, sorry to say but, blind enough (not to say stupid) to try to find excuses to this. ANTISEMITISM IS A SERIOUS ISSUE. IT LED TO THE DEATH OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. One shouldn't excuse him just because he makes nice dresses. That's just sickening to me.

 

[pavonine]

You know, there are health problems that makes a person spout out things they don't believe in. Yes. There are health problems that makes a person kill another because they think a dog told them to. Really.

And if he's suffering from such a health problem, he should have removed himself from the every day life and checked into a loony bin. He can't be defended on those grounds.

Thing is, if it had been some drunken cipher who'd said all of this, he'd simply have been reamed out of the place. It was mentioned that Galliano wasn't removed because he was a friend of the owner. Fame has it's perks, and there's also the flip side when the crap hits the fan. Is he being given the short end of the stick only because he's a celebrity? Perhaps, but that goes with the territory. He just has to suck it up.

 

[Acid]

rather than getting into specifics of who was or wasn't killed or whether you believe in freedom of all speech or not, the important point is that Galliano was the figure head of a global brand and i'll bet that they make a pretty penny from their Jewish customer. as a corporation there is no way they could let him continue on after these incidents.

anyone find it ironic that Galliano has a rather large nose? i always thought he was Jewish himself

 

[m.j.]

anyone find it ironic that Galliano has a rather large nose? i always thought he was Jewish himself

racial stereotype

And if he's suffering from such a health problem, he should have removed himself from the every day life and checked into a loony bin. He can't be defended on those grounds.

you have just insulted people who are in mental institutions.
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[Les_Sucettes]

there is no race war between the jews and john galliano. there is one between asians and jews now

What the hell are you talking about? Anti-semitism has been much less prevalent in western societies all the attention and effort has been to suppress the rising tide against of racism against asians. There was not a time in History where so much effort has been put criminalise offences to this specific group. Not so long ago calling someone a P*ki in the UK , was totally acceptable, now it's up there with the *n* work, and would give you instant dismissal.

 

[pavonine]

i cannot summon one ounce of sympathy for the offended jews because i know what verbally assaulted them in that video could harm them much less than the racist forces in mass media, in european legal system and western commercial organizations - which are processing the case with such bloodthirst and blatant double standard - can and will the asians and gypsies and is much less of a reality than the latter.

For a start, I don't think Bloch is actually Jewish. She was called one perhaps because she was in an area with a significant Jewish population. Besides, I don't think anyone here is suggesting one must sympathise with her, notwithstanding whether she's Jewish or not. Point which I think you're tying to make is the disparity in the reactions meted out by Dior/LVMH to this incident and the Sharon Stone incident. I'm not making a case here for Dior, but maybe the fact that this happened in Paris in France where the holocaust is such a sensitive issue and Anti-Semitism still kind of somewhat topical had also contributed to his sacking. Or maybe, you know, Dior/LVMH doesn't give a fig about any form of intolerance; they're using this as a pretext to oust him.

there is no race war between the jews and john galliano. there is one between asians and jews now

No there isn't.

 

[pavonine]

you have just insulted people who are in mental institutions.
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have I, now?