MonkeyFish
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^^ Vivienne westwood

sounds like your fiancee and friends suffer from the old madonna-wh*re complex, i've never understood this...as for the fetish stuff, i think people want to believe that celebs are freakier than they are, i'm sure someone would have spoken up about dita when she became famous no matter how secret the society.fancypinup said:...he said, "Look, to a man of any worth, she's not a woman you date or marry. She's not quality."...
Yeah, I thought so at first and asked if it was what she did for a living and my fiancee just said that no it's actually the way she presents herself somehow. He said it was just something she gave off whatever that means. I was actually suprised that men have a totally different radar than women when he said this. I don't think it's the madonna-wh*re complex you refer to but it's weird how we unconciously process someone's impressions on us and I guess that was my fiancee's. Besides, I would have a difficult time being with someone who has Victorian principles and the madonna-wh*re complex so I think it's safe to say that's out of the picture. And the Madonna-wh*re complex is when you see a woman as either Virgin or wh*re and my fiancee didn't seem to categorize her as either, but just a dime-a-dozen sort of thing. I like her style personally and think she's attractive. As for the other friends, I know one of the guys' wives was a sex columnist so I don't think he is what you assume either.orange01t said:sounds like your fiancee and friends suffer from the old madonna-wh*re complex, i've never understood this...as for the fetish stuff, i think people want to believe that celebs are freakier than they are, i'm sure someone would have spoken up about dita when she became famous no matter how secret the society.
Cammy said:that thing about keanu reeves ex wife... good god.. what an awful thing for some one to say. Just crazy.
I think she is intimidating to men..becase she isnt "sl*tty" but her job is something that men would generally associate with such a term. I have heard men put down the way a woman looks because of her lack of clothing.. but will still contently watch her walk down the street or go to a strip club and watch a woman strip into nothing. Its a massive contradiction, but i think thats what gives them the power. Men are completly obsessed with women generally speaking.. which in reality makes women powerful. But if a man turns around and says some one is a wh*re, it generally gives the power back to the men.
From what fancy pin up was saying, i think she does give off a very overtly sexual vibe, which i think is why women like her because its inspiring haha. But to men i think it might almost be too much. I remember her quoted as saying "Im the girl you mother warned you about" Which i think is quite fitting.
SwanDiamondRose said:i think perhaps if you call yourself the anti-christ, demons come with the territory.
i love manson! and rose mcgowan. and dita.Cammy said:OK so everyone hates marylin...
orange01t said:i love manson! and rose mcgowan. and dita.
woooow, if you go back and look at pics of her from the last 2-3 months, she's definitely studying dita... even the way she poses on the red carpet, hand on hip. and she had long black leather gloves on at manson's halloween gallery opening, a tell-tale sign. (this is sort of about dita's style...)kochie332 said:Marilyn Manson Dating Evan Rachel Wood...