H&M cancels Kate Moss campaign

[iluvjeisa]

Having anorexia isnt illegal. Not a good example to set, but still it's not the same as using drugs and getting caught at it. This is about her doing something illegal, that's mainly the reason why she got fired. I can't even see how you can compare this to Elton John becoming "Sir"

Elton John, the self-professed drug addicted songer/singwriter was Sired a long time ago. You don't see how this is related? People thought that the way he was good at his job outweighed the negative effect his personal illegal problems may have on people dumb enough to follow his example. Outrageous, isn't it? Clearly, anybody who has published copyrighted material on the internet should be fired pronto. They broke the law in their personal life.

 

[tiffany]

I bet they just couldn't afford her I'm sure that's not actually true, but it's the first thing that popped into my head when I read the thread title

 

[Piejor]

I feel really sorry for her daughter tho! I think Kate should spend more time with her kid but less in partying till 4 am in the morning.

 

[CharlottefromCA]

i think Desicion of HyM is stupid, They have to see the photos to know that kate was drugging herself ? Kate is the queen of Of the advertising and merketing, does someone think that kate is going to disappear after this? common
I want to see if in 3 years hym does not contract kate

If H&M contacts Kate in 3 years when this has died down a bit.. and if she isn't doing drugs (at least publicly..).. it wouldn't shock me. But the decision for H&M to say bye to Kate is totally understandable and is the smart move... its too risky to be associated with Miss Moss now.. esp when you're a company with a young clientele

 

[iluvjeisa]

if a had an employee that was drug addict, i would fire them.
don't care if it's kate moss, marylin monroe (sp) or lady di. business is business and you should respect me, your employer, because at the end of the day i'm paying you big time.

i also can't believe that people are trying to defend her. i have no addictions of any type and i'm not in her position, but if she wants to act freely she should also take the responsibilities for her behaviour.

Some employers would be more interested in your performance at your job than in your ability to deal with your own life, no matter what you do to achieve this performance level. That's what's sometimes called swimming with the sharks - when you have to stoop down to the lowliest tricks to compete with ruthless people. You can be sure that Marilyn's directors catered to her - in every way - in order to make her perform better. You can also be sure that they condone illegal purchase of prostitutes by male actors if need be. They'll do anything humanly possible to get the stars up to the magical level of performance. As long as there's some glory or profit involved.

Some people here are in for a nasty shock later in life, unless you're just trolling.

 

[nouveau]

of course they're gonna drop her...no matter how beautiful and stylish and how sought after someone is, getting caught doing cocaine while you have a baby daughter at home is pretty much be a death sentence to anyone's career...it's not exactly the sort of image consumers aspire to or any sustainable company should promote...she only has herself to blame, time to grow up i say.

 

[nouveau]

Some employers would be more interested in your performance at your job than in your ability to deal with your own life, no matter what you do to achieve this performance level. That's what's sometimes called swimming with the sharks - when you have to stoop down to the lowliest tricks to compete with ruthless people. You can be sure that Marilyn's directors catered to her - in every way - in order to make her perform better. You can also be sure that they condone illegal purchase of prostitutes by male actors if need be. They'll do anything humanly possible to get the stars up to the magical level of performance. As long as there's some glory or profit involved.

Some people here are in for a nasty shock later in life, unless you're just trolling.

okay, that's bs. no one needs cocaine to do achieve a certain "performance level" at anything. models don't need to snort white powder up their noses to look beautiful or have a certain crackwhore look or whatever and actors certainly don't need to have gangbangs before they go on set...these are just lame justifications these people pull out of their ***es. and i certainly don't think kate moss, at her level, would be subject to these imagined pressures from her agency to smoke crack, it's not as if she's some russian girl who needs to sniff coke to keep her weight down because that's her only way out... the reason she's a crackwhore is far more likely to be that she's a moron who has way too much money to spend

 

[iluvjeisa]

okay, that's bs. no one needs cocaine to do achieve a certain "performance level" at anything. models don't need to snort white powder up their noses to look beautiful or have a certain crackwhore look or whatever and actors certainly don't need to have gangbangs before they go on set...these are just lame justifications these people pull out of their ***es. and i certainly don't think kate moss, at her level, would be subject to these imagined pressures from her agency to smoke crack, it's not as if she's some russian girl who needs to sniff coke to keep her weight down because that's her only way out... the reason she's a crackwhore is far more likely to be that she's a moron who has way too much money to spend

*LMAO* Oh yawn this whole situation is so inane it's not even funny.
I am not using justifications. I am just saying that contrary to what some people think, if an employee is morally corrupt, the employers are not going to be morally offended unless the employee is found out.

Furthermore, in show biz there are many many examples of co-workers indulging irreplacable stars to get the job done. I'm not saying if it's right or wrong or if the stars need it for their performance, just that the view of the morally offended (showbiz) employer is pretty naive.

 

[melt977]

no anna you are right...its mental how much the girls is stalked. ther eis something tragic about the whole situation. when i first read about all this I thought to myself 'i wonder if corrine day and her first bookers etc feel in any way responsible here' they plucked a little girl & hurtled her into this mad adult world when she should have been going to school & going shopping with her mum....how could you grow up & be normal when you have had your teenage years like that....

Helena, I agree with everything that you said (and I like the way you said it) but I don't think that this behaviour depends on how famous someone else or that it belongs to people like Kate Moss - people who have known extreme fame from an early age...

things like drugs are very free nowadays (and have been for many years now) and many people are on them... and I am talking about normal people, with no psychological problems, no publicity problems, strong family bonds etc.... I am sorry to say that today the difficult thing is not to come accross them (instead of it being difficult to find them).

Choosing to use them is a personal decision and depends on the personality of each person, in the same way that someone chooses to drink until he drops down in a coma.

I think that what is going on is a bit unfair on Kate Moss because what she did (or does) is being done by so many celebrities and she was the one who was uncovered and in a particularly sleazy way.

Also, it's not like while she is being a teen idol (as you have very correctly said) she openly abuses drugs or speaks about her perosnal problems... she just walks around dressed nicely (at least in some people's opinion)....

In my opinion, the weird thing is how we have come to this stage, where the role models of our society are plain models! i.e people who don't speak, don't create, don't do anything other than carrying off clothes with grace! Why should they be role models in the first place???!!!!! People should look at them to get inspiration from their dress style and not from their lives.... who knows anything about their lives anyway... and who cares?

Nobody should care in my humble opinion... I'm stunned everytime I read comments in the tFS threads about her being a good mother or not... for christ's sake... we just look at a few random pictures (that most probably SHE chooses to let us see) of her carrying her daughter.... we don't know what she does with her daughter or how she behaves... and we should not be concerned because it's none of our business... it should be of a greater concern to people if their neighbour beats up his wife or his kid (because they are most likeley helpless peopleo with nowhere to turn) rather than what Kate Moss does in her life.... at the end of the day she has the privilege to choose any lifestyle she wants...

 

[susie_bubble]

I'm a little more concerned as to why we all give so little credit to the teenage market which Kate Moss is supposedly a role model for. I'm not even sure if she is a role model, other than the fact that they might occasionally look at her pics in Heat and think 'She dresses cool!'. But regardless of whether she takes coccaine or not, do you really think teenagers are so undiscerning as to follow her example JUST because she's Kate Moss??? Had the H&M campaign carried on as planned, it's unlikely that a teenager flicking through her magazine seeing the campaign would think 'Oooh....that's Kate Moss....she took cocaine didn't she?....maybe I should do it too....yeah that'd be so cool!' It's more likely that they'd be thinking 'Ooooh....that's Kate Moss....she looks great in that top....I want that top.....I think I'll make a detour to H&M tomorrow!' These teens aren't THAT impressionable!

 

[melt977]

I think that she does influence people like anyone else who is a "star". I don't think that anyone would follow Keith Richard's track just because he admires him but I've met people who - for example- would use substances to get inspired in the way that their favourite band is!!!! Many people think that good music is the result of good "drugs", as many bands are open about usage....


In the same way, if Kate Moss is the icon of cool ,and a young girl wants to be considered as cool too, she will tend to immitate her (to a certain extent) because the rest of her age group considers this person cool too... Let's not ignore the fact that Kate Moss herself seems to be following the footsteps of Marianne Faithful, or at least she gives the impression of aspiring to become something like her... (I come to this conclusion just from personla observations so don't start asking me where I base this - it's just me)

My point is, that people need to clarify the reason for which they admire certain stars... and I don't think many of them do.

Also, I'm worried about our role models... what happened to leaders and artists as rolemodels... but then again, if today's popular "artists" are people like Britney Spears and the first example of a leader that springs to mind is George Bush, maybe I shouldn't blame the teens for looking up to people like Kate Moss instead! At least she IS cool....

(Gosh, I've been talking for ages......)

 

[Ella]

If H&M contacts Kate in 3 years when this has died down a bit.. and if she isn't doing drugs (at least publicly..).. it wouldn't shock me. But the decision for H&M to say bye to Kate is totally understandable and is the smart move... its too risky to be associated with Miss Moss now.. esp when you're a company with a young clientele

I completely agree.

 

[helena]

the BBC is reporting today that she is being investigated by Scotland Yard.

 

[cheiby11]

What does it mean for her?

 

[lamb]

Are they trying to find the dealers?

 

[Golden_butterfly]

There a re rumours going on that Jessica Simpson will be replacing her.

 

[helena]

This thread is closed due to people posting pictures of drug taking contrary to TFS rules and constant warnings.

 

[Pastry]

Clothing Chain H&M Drops Kate Moss Ads

Clothing Chain H&M Drops Kate Moss Ads

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
September 20, 2005
www.nytimes.com



STOCKHOLM, Sweden (AP) -- Swedish clothing chain Hennes & Mauritz said Tuesday it will drop a planned advertising campaign with model Kate Moss after she admitted to recently using cocaine.
Courtesy of W
In August 2003, W published a 40-page portfolio of Kate Moss. Here, a photograph by Craig McDean.




H&M, Europe's largest fashion retailer, had planned to use Moss to help launch a new collection designed by Stella McCartney that will hit stores in 22 countries in November.

The decision to drop the campaign comes after Moss acknowledged last week that British tabloid reports of her recent cocaine use were true.

H&M initially said it would proceed with the campaign, but company spokeswoman Liv Asarnoj said Tuesday that ''after evaluating the situation, we have decided that a campaign with Kate Moss is not consistent with H&M's clear disassociation from drugs.''

The company will call in another model for the campaign, Asarnoj said.

H&M said Saturday that Moss had apologized for her drug use and promised in writing to abide by a company policy that models be ''healthy, wholesome and sound.''

McCartney, daughter of former Beatle Paul McCartney, will design a limited women's collection of about 40 items that will go on sale in 400 stores on Nov. 10. Last year, H&M released a similar collection designed by Karl Lagerfeld, which sold out in a few hours in many stores worldwide.

 

[lamb]

Any rumours yet who will take her place in those ads?

 

[Pastry]

I did a search and nothing came up, so..(for the tread that is)

Oh, boy...Not only was I looking forward to the collection itself, but the advertising campaign as well! Hmm, methinks H&M is digging themselves a hole by dropping such a prominent figure from this. Even those who may not 'get' the Stella McCartney hype, wil recognize Moss's face.

Still, love H&M with all my might!