In Vogue: The 90s (Hulu & Disney+)

[vogue28]

A new two-part series dropping on Disney+ (in the UK and other countries) and Hulu (in America) on September 13:

 

[blueorchid]

6-parts sounds like way too much for a documentary like this, but I'll be watching (eventually).


Vanity Fair Digital Edition

 

[KoV]

Very excited for this! Anna, Edward, Hamish, and Tonne are listed in the “cast” as hosts on IMDB. About 30 other mostly A-list celebrities and designers are also listed as cast members. I wonder if they are talking heads or if they just appear in archive footage.

 

[vogue28]

Here's the official trailer:

 

[Summer Day]

Has anyone watched? I’m on episode 3 where fashion meets Hollywood. I’m enjoying it so far.

 

[Kiyoko]

I have watched 3 episodes & it’s boring. I feel I’m watching a documentary on how we ruined Vogue - you can see it on Hamish Bowles & Grace Coddington’s faces & in their tone of voice. Gwyneth Paltrow’s comment that she started the celebrity covers of Vogue is incredulous. I’m pretty sure Julia Roberts; Demi Moore; Julia Ormond; Michelle Pfeiffer; Kim Basinger; Winona Ryder; Sharon Stone & Geena Davis had covers prior to Gwyneth in the 90s. Also that’s not to mention the actresses like Elizabeth Taylor; Cher; Farrah Fawcett et al from previous decades that had multiple covers.
My own personal opinion is Vogue went downhill somewhere in the late nineties & this documentary is just giving credence to my views & the reasons why.

 

[TomBlanksFullFatMiuMiu]

I am glad they are including Claudia as 'they' usually snub her

 

[TomBlanksFullFatMiuMiu]

Anna Wintour in September Issue: Fashion is not about looking back, it's about looking forward
This always aged like milk

 

[mepps]

I have watched 3 episodes & it’s boring. I feel I’m watching a documentary on how we ruined Vogue - you can see it on Hamish Bowles & Grace Coddington’s faces & in their tone of voice. Gwyneth Paltrow’s comment that she started the celebrity covers of Vogue is incredulous. I’m pretty sure Julia Roberts; Demi Moore; Julia Ormond; Michelle Pfeiffer; Kim Basinger; Winona Ryder; Sharon Stone & Geena Davis had covers prior to Gwyneth in the 90s. Also that’s not to mention the actresses like Elizabeth Taylor; Cher; Farrah Fawcett et al from previous decades that had multiple covers.
My own personal opinion is Vogue went downhill somewhere in the late nineties & this documentary is just giving credence to my views & the reasons why.

Nope, none of them had a cover before Gwyneth.

 

[KoV]

I was thinking maybe, to give Gwyneth credit, she'd had the first September cover as a celeb. But no! Renée Zellweger had one the year prior.

 

[Kiyoko]

Nope, none of them had a cover before Gwyneth.

Gwyneth’s cover was August 1996.
From the 1960’s there have been actresses / celebrities on the cover of US Vogue. Audrey Hepburn in 1964; Barbara Streisand in 1966; Mia Farrow & Candice Bergen in 1967 & 1969; Goldie Hawn; Jacqueline Bisset in 1969. Cher; Farah Fawcett; Jaclyn Smith; Elizabeth Taylor; Sophia Loren & Cybill Shepherd had multiple covers in the 70s. Only Madonna had a cover in the late 80s - the models reigned supreme. Then the 90’s had multiple celebrities even Princess Diana & Ivana Trump prior to Gwyneth. A quick flip through Vogue archives one can see all the covers from 1890
Source: vogue.archives

 

[tigerrouge]

It's an interesting bit of revisionism, perhaps the approach is - repeat the idea often enough and it'll become truth in the minds of other people.

It relies on people thinking that Sharon Stone, Demi Moore and Julia Roberts had no star power whatsoever in the early 90s, and that supermodels themselves didn't have media fame on the level of minor celebrities...

 

[Kiyoko]

It's an interesting bit of revisionism, perhaps the approach is - repeat the idea often enough and it'll become truth in the minds of other people.

It relies on people thinking that Sharon Stone, Demi Moore and Julia Roberts had no star power whatsoever in the early 90s, and that supermodels themselves didn't have media fame on the level of minor celebrities...

I totally agree with your comment. I would even contend that Heather Locklear (Melrose Place); Gillian Anderson (x Files) & Jennifer Aniston (Friends) were bigger celebrities then Gwyneth. She just happened to be dating Brad Pitt & that is what catapulted her ahead of the rest. Same with Nicole Kidman - married to Tom Cruise. Even Drew Barrymore & Teri Hatcher (Lois & Clark) were bigger stars then Gwyneth at the time. I remember when Uma Thurman wore a lavender Prada dress at the 1995 Oscars - this is when people started to take note of the red carpet & what actress’ wore.
The supermodels were in their own lane but by 95/96 the era had gone - IMHO.

 

[blueorchid]

At least they didn't make up covers, what was that documentary recently where they (the filmmakers/not Vogue, I don't think it was a documentary affiliated with Vogue) made fake Vogue/magazine covers to prove their point? Does anyone remember the documentary I'm thinking of? I can't remember it.

It's too bad we'd never get a documentary series about Vogue in other decades, pre-Anna, when it was more interesting. Anna, Anna, Anna!!

 

[Kiyoko]

At least they didn't make up covers, what was that documentary recently where they (the filmmakers/not Vogue, I don't think it was a documentary affiliated with Vogue) made fake Vogue/magazine covers to prove their point? Does anyone remember the documentary I'm thinking of? I can't remember it.

It's too bad we'd never get a documentary series about Vogue in other decades, pre-Anna, when it was more interesting. Anna, Anna, Anna!!

Supreme Models - it’s on Vogue’s YouTube channel.

 

[LoveFashion25]

I totally agree with your comment. I would even contend that Heather Locklear (Melrose Place); Gillian Anderson (x Files) & Jennifer Aniston (Friends) were bigger celebrities then Gwyneth. She just happened to be dating Brad Pitt & that is what catapulted her ahead of the rest. Same with Nicole Kidman - married to Tom Cruise. Even Drew Barrymore & Teri Hatcher (Lois & Clark) were bigger stars then Gwyneth at the time. I remember when Uma Thurman wore a lavender Prada dress at the 1995 Oscars - this is when people started to take note of the red carpet & what actress’ wore.
The supermodels were in their own lane but by 95/96 the era had gone - IMHO.

For those alive, what was it like when the supermodels era ended by 95/96? To me, it feels like they were still in their primes until 1999.

 

[Kiyoko]

For those alive, what was it like when the supermodels era ended by 95/96? To me, it feels like they were still in their primes until 1999.

For me they simply over exposed themselves & I as a consumer moved on. I backpacked through Europe in 1994 & Claudia Schiffer was everywhere - billboards; magazine covers; adverts etc & I remember being so bored by it all. The other moment for me was when VOGUE was telling me that Kylie Bax ; Shalom Harlow & Liz Hurley were supermodels - I don’t think so. The fabulousness was gone for me & the era was a memory. I stopped buying magazines in 1996 because of this.

 

[LoveFashion25]

For me they simply over exposed themselves & I as a consumer moved on. I backpacked through Europe in 1994 & Claudia Schiffer was everywhere - billboards; magazine covers; adverts etc & I remember being so bored by it all. The other moment for me was when VOGUE was telling me that Kylie Bax ; Shalom Harlow & Liz Hurley were supermodels - I don’t think so. The fabulousness was gone for me & the era was a memory. I stopped buying magazines in 1996 because of this.

That's so interesting to hear from someone who actually lived it. Because we know those in the industry does a lot of revisionism on the 90s Supermodels era but never tell the truth as to why it ended by the mid 90s. By then, actresses/singers started taking over models jobs!

 

[Phuel]

^^^ Being an impressionable teen in the 90s— and Clueless was exactly like my high school life, with a dash of Kids thrown in, we rolled our eyes at the “Supers” phenomenon and the commercialism of it all: The calendars, the movies and MTV series (LMFAO @Cindy’s movie and her House of Style), Model Cafe etc etc. I’d compare the experience of the “Supers” to a cool artist like Rihanna performing as the Halftime Show: It’s very commercialized for public consumption and a tacky Siegfried & Roy spectacle.

After the phenomenon passed, I’d even say that they evolved to perfectly adapt to the darker aesthetic, higher concept of the mid and late-90s that has come to define the still relevant highest standards. Except for Cindy, the others shed their “Super” pop image and became more iconic for it.

 

[LoveFashion25]

^^^ Being an impressionable teen in the 90s— and Clueless was exactly like my high school life, with a dash of Kids thrown in, we rolled our eyes at the “Supers” phenomenon and the commercialism of it all: The calendars, the movies and MTV series (LMFAO @Cindy’s movie and her House of Style), Model Cafe etc etc. I’d compare the experience of the “Supers” to a cool artist like Rihanna performing as the Halftime Show: It’s very commercialized for public consumption and a tacky Siegfried & Roy spectacle.

After the phenomenon passed, I’d even say that they evolved to perfectly adapt to the darker aesthetic, higher concept of the mid and late-90s that has come to define the still relevant highest standards. Except for Cindy, the others shed their “Super” pop image and became more iconic for it.

"I’d even say that they evolved to perfectly adapt to the darker aesthetic, higher concept of the mid and late-90s that has come to define the still relevant highest standards." - Can you explain more what you mean by this?