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^^ lmanu: I ordered the blue but have no idea which shade it is. She just said dark blue. I am taking a risk to see what color it'll be but abfabbag is good about exchanges so if it's awful I can exchange with her. (I wouldn't do this if I didn't know the seller) She'll also get the bag first and can send me pics. I'll post once I know what color blue it might be.

My first replica was a putty mini stam. I hated it!! Luckily, it was abfabbag and she exchanged for a chocolate paddy which I love! My next one was a honey spy which was orange, I exchanged it for a betty which I gave to my daughter because I bought an NBF chocolate betty later that I like better!! It was a downhill slide after that..... LOL!
 
Abfabbag has a Balenciaga that looks pretty damn good... goatskin + brass hardware. She has dark blue, black and white.

I wish her photos were better though.

I really like the Kooba Ada!
 
Allegra, if you ask abfabbag, she might send you some more pics. She's very nice! I like the Kooba Ginger, especially for summer...so many bags, so little time/money! ha!
 
Does anyone know if abfabbag's BBags have the correct shaped hardware on the strap connection?
 
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Did anyone see the article in today's Wall Street Journal about buying (and returning) fake designer items on eBay? The reporter bought 5 items that were priced suspiciously low from 5 different sellers with good feedback -- 4 of them were obvious fakes, but one of them (a Paddy!) was so good that even the fashion director at Saks couldn't tell if it was fake or not. I found myself wondering who the supplier was...
 
Oh that sounds interesting quizvan! I have the WSJ here in front of me and can't see it yet, though I have the European edition which maybe didn't carry that story...
 
My first replica bag was my patent stam. i bought it in may/june this year and I love it. Then I bought the Fendi B from T&D and I love it too, but I haven't used a lot, yet.^_^
 
Gonatcha said:
Which bag was your first replica purchase? And when did you buy it?
Just curious ;)

I bought a black and a brown b bag from NBF in October, and it's been downhill ever since. :D

Of course, I had bought cheap Kate Spade and Prada knockoffs in NY in the past -- but there's no comparison to the kind of replica purchasing that's possible now. Heavens, I love the internet and Chinese entrepeneurship! ;)
 
littleblacksheep said:
Oh that sounds interesting quizvan! I have the WSJ here in front of me and can't see it yet, though I have the European edition which maybe didn't carry that story...

It's on the front page of the personal journal section, in the NE US edition. I don't subscribe to the online edition, otherwise I could post it here -- maybe someone else does?
 
I borrowed my boss's online login...should I post the article?

Ok, will post it. Hope I've done it right.
 
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What Happens When an eBay Steal Is a Fake
We Sought Redress From Site
And Sellers After Our Fendi,
Gucci, Tiffany Proved Faux

By LORETTA CHAO
June 29, 2006; Page D1

A Gucci wallet for $120. A Burberry scarf for $32. A pair of Tiffany earrings for $35. If prices like that for some of the hottest luxury brands seem unreal, it very well may be because the goods themselves aren't real.
The estimated multibillion-dollar counterfeit market has become a major headache for the luxury-product industry -- and for unwary consumers. Though many fakes are sold in stores, others wind up listed on auction Web sites such as those of eBay Inc., Yahoo Inc. and Overstock.com Inc., bearing attention-grabbing low prices.
Companies are stepping up their efforts to protect their brands by hiring attorneys and private investigators, and buying software programs to patrol eBay and other sites for fraudulent listings. Some investigations have led to arrests, and many have led to lawsuits. Tiffany & Co. filed a lawsuit against eBay in 2004, alleging that only 5% of the Tiffany items it bought through the site were authentic.
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This Chloe Paddington handbag, which we bought off eBay, looked authentic.To find out what recourse people have when buying counterfeit goods through an online auction, we purchased five designer items on eBay, the leading auction site, at bargain prices for goods sellers advertised as being authentic: Chloé and Fendi handbags, a Gucci wallet, Tiffany earrings and a Burberry scarf. Finding the items was easy -- a search for any designer's name turned up dozens of results, with prices ranging from as little as 10% of the retail price to as much as full price. We picked the listings with the best deals from sellers who had mostly positive feedback and who guaranteed the authenticity of the products.
Though our sample was small, four of the five products we purchased turned out to be fakes. (We couldn't determine the authenticity of the fifth one.) We then followed eBay's recommended course of action: First contact the seller, and then file a formal complaint with eBay itself.
EBay ultimately refunded a portion of the purchase price after we complained. The site's policy is to cap refunds at $200 -- minus a $25 processing fee. EBay sets $200 as the limit because many of the transactions on the site are under that amount, says spokeswoman Catherine England.
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Tiffany's Elsa Peretti teardrop earrings.EBay said that experiences like ours are rare. "I don't think that [the test] is representative," says Chris Donlay, an eBay spokesman. "Given the amount of trade that happens on the eBay platform, the large, large, majority of transactions on eBay are satisfactory for both sides."
In our test, the black leather Fendi Spy bag ended up being the most expensive purchase, and also the biggest headache. At $260, the bag was 87% below the retail price of $2,000. Yet the bag was sewn together sloppily, with the monogrammed fabric on the inside protruding at some of the edges; and the light, flimsy hardware was suspiciously inferior.
It took three messages and a threat to notify eBay to finally get a response from the seller, in which he promised a refund and asked us to ship the bag to an address in New York. But days later, we found out that the address belonged to his next victim: another defrauded customer, who also paid the seller $40 for shipping charges.
After a month passed since we paid for the bag, we filed a "refund not received" complaint with eBay through a form on the site, and then, at the site's request, an "item not as described" claim. EBay investigated the claim, asking us for proof of payment and proof of return, then refunded $175. Including the shipping costs, we lost about $133 in the ordeal.
We also had to file a complaint and a claim with eBay for the Gucci Eclipse French flap wallet, which retails for $375 and that we bought for $120. The interior of the wallet we received didn't match the real version in style or color. Gucci representatives weren't permitted to authenticate merchandise, but confirmed that our description of the fake wallet didn't match any of their products. The seller was courteous and promised a refund, then disappeared after we paid $29 to mail the wallet back to South Korea. EBay refunded $95 after closing the investigation in our favor, making our loss on this item $71.
The Tiffany earrings in sterling silver, designed in a teardrop shape by Elsa Peretti, retail for $195. The United Kingdom-based seller we bought them from was listing them for $35, or 82% off, and said in her listing that the jewelry came from "a Tiffany & Co. manufacturer, due to a family member who works at the factory." The earrings arrived in less than one week, but the packaging was a slightly different color and texture than the normal Tiffany blue box. When we brought the earrings to the Tiffany store in Manhattan, a sales associate compared our pair with a new pair in the store and pointed out that real ones are significantly smaller than the pair we received.
The seller readily offered a refund and apologized for any inconvenience, and we sent the earrings back right away. But a week after the package was sent, we didn't get a refund or hear from the seller -- instead, we got a message from an eBay staff member saying that the listing was taken down. Still, the seller refunded the full purchase price, so the whole transaction cost us $26 (the price of sending the item back to the U.K.).
We weren't sure about the authenticity of the Burberry cashmere Novacheck scarf, which retails for $160 and we bought for $32, so we asked Michael Fink, the senior fashion director at Saks Fifth Avenue, to examine it. Mr. Fink noticed right away that the scarf didn't feel like the high-quality cashmere that is standard in Burberry scarves, and that the block-letter logo didn't match the real logo either. "The tag looks really bad -- it doesn't have the finesse of the [real] logo lettering," he said. The seller promptly offered to refund the money and sent a check a few weeks after we returned the scarf.
The red Chloé Paddington bag looked the most authentic -- when we first opened it, we couldn't find any flaws. When we took it to a Chloé boutique, the sales associates said they weren't permitted to authenticate bags, but let us compare our bag with the store's merchandise. The only difference we could find after close examination was the leather used to wrap the brass lock on the bag, which was noticeably thinner and smoother on ours than the rugged pebbled leather on the store's bag. Saks's Mr. Fink said he was impressed by the quality of both the bag and of the tags. "The leather seems fine, the tags look very official," he said. Though for the price, he said, it's unlikely to be authentic Chloé, he couldn't be sure.
Tiffany says it randomly purchased 186 Tiffany items through eBay in 2004 and found that only 5% of the items were genuine. That same year, the company sued eBay, claiming that the company was negligent about its anticounterfeit policies, and in some cases even promoted sellers of fake Tiffany products by advertising listings for unauthorized merchandise throughout its site and in Web advertisements on Yahoo and Google. "Tens of thousands of counterfeit Tiffany items are sold through the eBay Web site each year," the company claimed in its suit. The suit is awaiting a trial date in federal court for the Southern District of New York.
EBay's Mr. Donlay says the company was "quite disappointed that [Tiffany] felt they needed to file this suit. ... They can report items and have them taken down at any moment, and continue to do so" through eBay's Verified Rights Owner Program, or VeRO, through which brand owners can report fraudulent listings and have them pulled from the site.
According to its user agreements, eBay, which had 193 million registered users as of March, doesn't permit the listing of counterfeits and unauthorized replicas on its site. Violators of this rule are subject to punishments varying from listing cancellations to account suspension or seller-status demotion. In addition, the site has a rating system in which members can rate each other and leave negative feedback for bad sellers.
Last quarter, clothing and accessories accounted for about 8% of eBay's $12.5 billion gross merchandise volume, or the total value of all successfully closed items.
ITEM RETAIL PRICE EBAY PRICING & SHIPPING AUTHENTICITY COMMENT Fendi Spy handbag $2,000 $260 + $40 Fake. It was obvious from the shoddy quality, and the seller acknowledged it. We recovered $175 from eBay under its buyer-protection plan, but going back and forth with the seller and then filing a claim took more than a month. Out total loss: $133. Burberry cashmere scarf 160 32 + 8 Fake, according to Saks Fifth Avenue senior fashion director Michael Fink. The seller refunded $32 after we notified him. Tiffany Elsa Peretti teardrop earrings 195 35 + 23 Fake, according to a Tiffany saleswoman. The seller refunded the full $58 after we notified her. Gucci Eclipse French flap wallet 375 120 + 17 Fake. Gucci said it does not make a wallet in this style. The seller, despite repeated promises to refund our money, disappeared after we returned the wallet. We recovered $95 through eBay buyer protection. We lost $71 in the transaction. Chloé Paddington handbag 1,500 213 + 10 Not sure. Chloé salesmen were not permitted to comment. Though he said the price is unheard of, Saks's Michael Fink said he just couldn't tell if the item was counterfeit.
 
Has anyone purchased a YSL vincenes from anywhere? Since I changed to a black patent stam rather than the white I am still in need of a white bag. I have cream and ivory but not white! I looked for 'real' white bags but nothing has caught my eye in my price range! I am thinking about a vincenes, a white clandy or a white spy satchel. I have a clandy and satchel in other colors and love them! Decisions, decisions!

Edit: Great article! Thanks for posting!!
 
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allegra said:
Gonatcha, where did you get the Betty?

My first was a Balenciaga medium from Tony + Dom. My second is the Edith on the way from Profitcome.

Haha, It's just the "average" Chloe Betty replica that you will find on ioffer, that I just happen to looove :D I bought mine from trust2buybuy, but there are many sellers with the same bags as hers.
I think I'm the same way about bags as tlloveshim, if you love the bag, that's all that matters :stuart:
 
I remember my first fake it was a Coach and it looked ok almost like the real one but it was something about the material it didnt feel the same nor did the signature C's look the same i was so mad that i bought it.Ever since then i've always purchased real Coach bags at their store or from Nordstroms.But i placed an order for a Gucci Horsebit at bagaholics and i hope it doesnt look that bad.If it does then i will only purchase real Gucci.
 
Does anyone here know much about Hermes replicas? I'm looking into getting one, but I think I want a 30cm but it seems to be a rare size for replicas. There are lots of 35cms out there, but so far I've only found one 30cm and it's $350, which seems like too much. Any help would be appreciated. TIA...

Edit to add: I'm looking for a plain leather (like Togo), not croc or ostrich. Of course there are tons of 30cm croc bags. But I really wouldn't want anyone to think I'm carrying around a $20,000 bag...

I am curious too. I have spent too much time lurking in the Hermés thread I think. Then I had a meeting yesterday and the woman came in with a black Birkin with Gold hardware and also a Fendi white leather B bag and I nearly drooled on the floor. She wore them so casually too. She seemed too money-ed for them to be fake. I was curious about her Birkin as one of the leather straps seemed to be coming off, but she had it full of stuff and was slinging it around the place so that must have put strain on the bag. She earns a fortune though so I could see her having an authentic one and treating it as an everyday work bag.
 
littleblacksheep said:
I am curious too. I have spent too much time lurking in the Hermés thread I think. Then I had a meeting yesterday and the woman came in with a black Birkin with Gold hardware and also a Fendi white leather B bag and I nearly drooled on the floor. She wore them so casually too. She seemed too money-ed for them to be fake. I was curious about her Birkin as one of the leather straps seemed to be coming off, but she had it full of stuff and was slinging it around the place so that must have put strain on the bag. She earns a fortune though so I could see her having an authentic one and treating it as an everyday work bag.

:D :D Don't be sure that a very wealthy woman is NOT carrying a fake -- I have a network of friends and friends of friends who can afford any bag they want and also own real Chanel/Hermes/Gucci etc and they love the good replicas - it's like candy to them.

If the bag is a good replica, it is almost impossible to tell if you are just in casual contact with it -- i.e. don't have it in your hands to examine it -- I am constantly riding down the elevator in my building (for example) and wondering -- does she or doesn't she.

I have hard profitcome's Hermes are quite nice actually but have never seen in real life.

And then there are the legendary Korean Hermes suppliers who do them on a custom basis -- the prices start at about $500 wholesale but go up and up for exotic stuff like REAL ostrich and croc. I have heard that many of these sell on EBAY for thousands.:ninja:
 
Don't be sure that a very wealthy woman is NOT carrying a fake -- I have a network of friends and friends of friends who can afford any bag they want and also own real Chanel/Hermes/Gucci etc and they love the good replicas - it's like candy to them.

LOL - Yeah, she could have been carrying a fake. However, I just got the impression from her that everything was real - and she had plenty of Hermés jewellery on as well. She was sooo chic. You wouldn't know that she was wearing all of this designer stuff unless you knew Hermés stuff and the Fendi etc. Maybe it was just her manner but I reckon she was just loaded and had lots of nice things :) . Anyhow, the end result is that I have started to crave a Hermés for myself! Brilliant.
 
hey - while we are on the topic of hermes, does anyone know what i should be looking for in a good mirror image birkin??? i honestly have no clue and dont want to end up with some junky looking bag!!! all help would be appreciated!
 
littleblacksheep: thanks for posting that article! really interesting reading..now if we can only figure out who sells that chloe replica!

As for hermes, I'm not too sure who's got good ones but here's a link for ones that cost around 300 for a 30/35cm birkin. I found her on ioffer with good feedback but have not ordered from her. I love the JPG!!

http://www.picturetrail.com/rios119

Hey girls, can you help me? I convinced my husband to get me the authentic balenciaga from their boutique in NY. I'm sooo excited!!
I decided to waitlist for the first size since I want something in a lighter color and I don't want that too be too big.
I decided to go with blue/grey (last color swatch)..was torn between oxblood (like a bordeaux) and that color.what do you guys think of the color? The color swatch is on this link..any other color preferences?? TIA:flower:
http://ateliernaff.blogspot.com/2006/04/where-have-these-been-hiding-more.html
 
Thanks quizvan - just read it. How about the seller who gave an address for a return but it was actually another customer?!?
 
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