WhiteLinen - I'm not sure if you caught my post where I explained that I wanted to have severely dark eye circles covered up to match my skin colour, like camouflage, not what most people think of when they hear permanent makeup. I would never get things like eyebrows or lipliner tattoed on, I just want my face to look normal without having to plaster on concealer every morning. I use really good stuff from MAC and it's still a pain in the *** and doesn't look that great and if my eyes water it turns it white-ish and it dries up and gets flakey in the winter even though I put moisturizer around my eyes on a regular basis. Ugh. I've been covering up my eye circles every day for the past 10 years and I'm so sick of it, it's not even like I have the option of leaving the house without makeup because the one time I did people kept asking what was wrong with my eyes. It looks horrible and unprofessional, I could never have a job with any kind of human contact and go to work without makeup. Anyway, I don't think it's pathetic to want my skin to be skin coloured and normal looking.