Terry Richardson’s Work is Degrading to Women

^Usually, were it anyone else, I'd be put off that this person chose to just approach him and tell something potentially hurtful to his face, when he was doing absolutely nothing. However, Terry Richardson doesn't really respect anyone, so I can't sya I want to give him any respect, either. In sum: Jeff Leach is my new hero. :heart:
 
Yay Jeff Leach! It's really nice to see men calling out men on their bad behavior (as also happened with Bill Cosby).
 
OMG this guys is everyting "Guess he had **** to do on the rapecycle so he didn’t stay to chat" :clap:
 
I'm just laughing at the "rapecycle" - but other than that, I'm not a fan of the whole ambush style, whether it's this guy or Cosby. He will have his day in court, that's where justice (or payouts...hey, those girls & their lawyers opted for the $$, can't say I see where the stance against him is happening in those situations) should be doled out. Street justice, street vigilante, it's not how civil society works.
 
This is the point ... court is not working.


Some of Cosby's rapes were from the 60s. This has been going on basically my entire life, and just now it's getting attention. If you're reading this, it's probably been your whole life too. Just think about it: 35 victims willing to be photographed. One hundred and fifty more who've contacted the author. r*ping women has been his f***ing hobby, quite literally. And he's gotten away with it. (See here for the article with pix of the 35 women who've fully come forward--and who include Beverly Johnson: http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/35-women-and-theemptychair.html)


Nearly 20 women had come forward with their stories, and yet still, no consequences for him. He's paid women off, done everything but really suffer the consequences he deserves. A male comedian calling him out onstage seems to have turned the tide for Cosby.


Clearly this speaks to very deep sexism in our society. The fact is, it simply is not civilized to drug women and r*pe them. It simply is not civilized to photograph women and pressure them for sex in a not-so-subtle quid pro quo.


Whatever it takes, is how I feel about it. They deserve to be called out by any means necessary.
 
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I think that, for the most part, the internet needs to sit down and stop with the vigilante justice and public shaming of people, but I can't get upset about this one. Maybe my perception is skewed, but I feel like no matter how many how many times the women and girls he has worked with call him out, there are no substantive consequences. (I know some brands refuse to work with him now, but they're not open about it and he's still getting work.)

Because of that, public condemnation is the only potential remedy -- if the law or the industry were going to do anything about it, it would have been done by now. He really has been at it for years.

That's why I think he appears so unaware of how people feel about him/his actions. Why should he care? As far as he's concerned, he can do whatever he wants and get away with it with no affect on his personal freedom or his income.
 
But it's this industry that sickens me. It's literally filled with a bunch of cherry picking hypocrites. When Sara Ziff started that allianz venture to call for some form of regulation in the modelling industry, you'd have thought that at least the mainstream women's titles (you know, the ones who harp on and on about feminism) would pubicly back her. But no, her effort was relegated to snippets in magazines, and it was the online outlets, not even specialising in fashion, who supported her most. Months later global Vogue editors vowed never to book underage models, and everybody applauded them for a cause which was initially highlighted by crusaders such as Ziff. And to prove just how superficial their initiative was, various editions (Italia, Mexico, China) managed to book underage girls 'by accident'. How does Galliano get sacked and pariahed out of the fashion world for verbal abuse, but Richardson continues to have his work published in the top fashion titles without scrutiny of his sexual assault charges? What's the distinction here? When a magazine as prestigious as Harper's America, Vogue Paris, or even Valentino continues to book him, what kind of message are they sending to their consumers? Of course they're all hiding behind that slippery 'Lets separate the art from the artist' cloak, but that's bollocks! It's too ironic when brands whose mission statement is to empower women are in reality enablers of a known abuser. God, I'm glad I'm not a woman.
 
^^^ Galliano unwisely offended people that mattered in his drunken stupor and was cast away immediately, while Terry is smart enough to prey on the unknowns in fashionland. Had he preyed on well-known girls-- or the ones well-connected to the industry's rulers, I'm sure he would have been shunned and dismissed swiftly. One was apparently a mean drunk who crossed the right people, while one remains a sinister predator who smartly hasn't crossed the line so he's allowed to continue on with his ways.

Boys club still rules, unfortunately. Someone at the top needs to stop the fashion system.
 
And anyone looking to the legal system to restore a sense of fairness to the situation is forgetting that so many of those rules are made and enforced by those who stand to benefit the most from them.

Your day in court isn't about justice, it's about who's paid for the best representatives, who can then swing the system around to their own advantage through a working knowledge of the arcane rules of the law.

So no wonder people resort to shouting in the street.
 
I'm just laughing at the "rapecycle" - but other than that, I'm not a fan of the whole ambush style, whether it's this guy or Cosby. He will have his day in court, that's where justice (or payouts...hey, those girls & their lawyers opted for the $$, can't say I see where the stance against him is happening in those situations) should be doled out. Street justice, street vigilante, it's not how civil society works.
LOL no he won't, you know that.
 
Apparently his behavior is just over the legal line due to all the releases, consents, etc. he has the models sign. The civil cases he settles. So he's free to ride around, as the guy says ...
 
LOL no he won't, you know that.


I actually don't. I believe in our justice system. it has its flaws, but realistically, the pros outweigh the cons. And as for Cosby, the accusers were shut down by Cosby's people - not the system. And those who made it through the system chose monetary settlements over justice, as the revealed depositions in his ongoing case has shown. Those women were court ordered to secrecy once it was settled out of court - which they accepted.
 
I don't believe in our justice system. I believe it exists, but I don't believe it's just. All one has to do is look at how it incarcerates people of color at a rate massively exceeding their share of actual crimes committed, to be certain it is actually an injustice system.
 
So you ignore all of the victims who in fact have received justice and say it's a bad system because of the high proportion of people of color who are incarcerated?
 
It is a system with very clear room for improvement ... I never said it can't work, it has and it sometimes does. But assuming that we all can and will receive justice from it is naïve at best.
 
I don't think it's naïve. I think you're painting a broad stroke of the incarcerated minorities because of what's currently in the news when in likelihood there's probably more evidence against it than there is for it. While there are cases of people imprisoned wrongly, the number of minorities who are imprisoned are because they did commit theirs crimes and the fact that they are more of them merely correlates to more crimes being committed by minorities than whites. Look into any urban areas vs a whiter neighborhood and there are more crimes being committed in the urban areas. That's not a racist view, it is a social commentary on what's happening - which is, urban areas tend to have more minorities, and due to the poorer wages and living conditions, crimes are being committed. And those crimes, where it's minorities attacking minorities, don't make the news.
 
^That is a blanket statement. Have you read The New Jim Crow? If not, you should. Jails in America are filled at an alarmingly increasing rate with people of color for minor drug violations like possession of marijuana. Marijuana. Think about that. I'm sure a large majority of this community has puffed a lil Mary Jane. Not worth being jailed for.

It goes deeper than that and is really tied to institutionalized racism. The constitution was not written to include people of color. After all people of color were once only considered 3/5ths of a human being. Just 3/5ths. A system can not fail those it was not intended to protect. So in fact, the system works, but mostly for those with the right skin color.

Also, what's going on in the news now has ALWAYS been going on. The only difference is social media and cameras.

fashionista-ta I don't believe in our justice system either. But I can go on and on... I wont though.
 
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