The Catalogue girls

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there are lots of commercial models who are relatively unknown outside fashion forums because the fashion industry puts more emphasis on the image models. if you ever look at an agencies blog, it focuses on the new faces or the girls who land an editorial in a top fashion magazine. a model could land an international television commercial for Nivea and the agency rather focus on another model who landed a Grazia editorial in some Asian country. Meanwhile, its the girl who landed the commercial that is keeping the agency afloat. I think the problem is agencies are still thinking the way they did in the 1980's. Catalog work is no longer considered below a fashion model. Even the most highly regarded models do a lot of commercial work because it pays well.

E-commerce was created because someone in the industry realized that models impact a buyer. People on Bellazon and UMC are always asking about catalog models because those models are healthy and pretty looking compared to a lot the image models we are seeing right now. Yes, there is room for everyone within the industry but sometimes the industry gets too far fetched. Yes, you want to have different but sometimes having too much different doesn't work. It's like opening up an ice cream store and only having odd flavors. Sometimes you have to sell vanilla and chocolate because it sells. There was this article a few years back saying that during the credit crunch, many advertisers were playing it safe using classic model types such as pretty beach blondes with blue eyes and tan brunettes who were ethnically ambiguous because they appeal to most people. Sometimes, classically good looking model works. That's why Kate Upton is so popular. I am not a fan of her but in a way she is different by being healthy and the All-American girl. She is reminiscent of a different time in fashion that the public seems to be going towards. A lot of my mothers friends who aren't into fashion have been talking about how thin models are getting and how in their day models had to be pretty if they wanted to be successful. Statements like that make me think normal people (non-fashion freaks) are sick of seeing edgy and super thin girls. Just look at Victoria Secret. The models they are using are so much thinner than they were using say 15 years ago. Sometimes I think models like Cindy, Claudia, and pretty any top model in the 1980's would be relegated to commercial boards of their agencies because they are too normal looking. I remember when the runway would have some models under 5'9". It wasn't odd for a model to be 5'7" and high fashion. Today, a lot of these runway girls are 6'0" and possess the same measurements of a 5'7" model.

The industry is changing. There is no doubt about that. With the publishing world going digital, its only a matter of time before the next big change happens. I don't know what that might be but one thing is certain: E-commerce girls are going to be even more popular because a lot of retail sites like Nasty Gal, Missguided, and ASOS are acknowledging the models they use, and some are even promoting them by letting their costumers getting to know them through interviews.
 
Would the American Apparel girls fit i to this thread? I've been wondering who they are for a long time.
 
Would the American Apparel girls fit i to this thread? I've been wondering who they are for a long time.

No, American Apparel does what is called "street casting." They use non-professional models. They're usually girls they think are "cool" in some way like their personality or personal style. They don't fit into the physical model parameters and they might have other jobs like graphic designer, ballerina etc.
 
No, American Apparel does what is called "street casting." They use non-professional models. They're usually girls they think are "cool" in some way like their personality or personal style. They don't fit into the physical model parameters and they might have other jobs like graphic designer, ballerina etc.

That explains why they mostly photograph so short... Thank you for the information!
 
i think they also use store employees sometimes. How about AF those other similar lines liek American Eagle
 
i think they also use store employees sometimes. How about AF those other similar lines liek American Eagle

American Eagle uses real, new face/upcoming models from markets like LA, Miami, Chicago and sometimes book out of NYC (especially for the bigger campaigns).
AF, Hollister, they also use real professional models. Sometimes they are the same models that work at the stores in NYC albeit they're also agency repped (I've seen some big models come out of those stores. If you're ever there, it's a great place to go model spotting).
 
I think Danijela Dimitrovska belongs here. Yes, she did some runway and scored Elle, Glamour and Grazia covers, but she mainly does catalogues. She is also somewhat famous in her homeland Serbia where she married a TV personality. Anyway, she is beautiful.


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How about the Brazillian girls that no longer do lots of high fashion work but still get regular gigs for brands like Nine West or Gap or even Loreal for some eg. Cintia Dicker, Fernanda Tavares etc
 
American Apparrel uses real models. They book out of LA and they use lesser known girls. Street casting doesn't really exist because you can't expect a random person to be able to take a good picture and pose. When any company/publication say they don't use model, they mean they don't use well known or fashion models. They get away with it by casting from talent agencies ie they list them as commercial print models, lifestyle models, or people models (depending on what country/market your in). However, American Apparel only books from top agencies like Next, Ford, Elite, etc. So they can be placed in here. :smile:
 
How about the Brazillian girls that no longer do lots of high fashion work but still get regular gigs for brands like Nine West or Gap or even Loreal for some eg. Cintia Dicker, Fernanda Tavares etc

your confusing commercial and catalog. From what I understand, I think what the original poster wanted was the E-commerce girls. They types of girls who are in-betweeners (ie did image and commercial work) but now mostly does catalog work only. Those women make their money from campaigns not by doing catalog work... so I don't think they apply. Unless, they are okay with this becoming a commercial thread. If not, I think we should start one.
 
American Apparrel uses real models. They book out of LA and they use lesser known girls. Street casting doesn't really exist because you can't expect a random person to be able to take a good picture and pose. When any company/publication say they don't use model, they mean they don't use well known or fashion models. They get away with it by casting from talent agencies ie they list them as commercial print models, lifestyle models, or people models (depending on what country/market your in). However, American Apparel only books from top agencies like Next, Ford, Elite, etc. So they can be placed in here. :smile:

No, street casting indeed exists. There are tons of stylish, "it"/"scene-y" people who are picked up in LA and NYC everyday. Most don't meet the requirements for modeling but have great personal style and a photogenic face. COACD/Douglas Perrett and JV8/Jennifer Venditti regularly street cast for Nylon, Uniqlo, Nike etc. They literally go to crowded or "scene-y" areas and find people they think are good looking and stylish and invite them onto shoots. These people aren't models as they have full time jobs (usually in the art field like graphic designer etc). American Apparel definitely street casts as my friend who is 5'4" was "scouted" to model for AA at Venice Beach a year ago. No way does she have modeling stats.

Street casting goes in hand with the fascination of the style blogger--everyday, good looking, stylish people.

If you look at the American Apparel website, those girls are not repped by the LA agencies. Most of those girls are just scenesters in LA. They don't even meet the requirements for modeling professionally. Those girls are physically very different from the girls on sites like NastyGal and Forever21, which uses the actual lesser known models from LA.
 
street modeling barely exists. yes they sometimes do that but most of the time they don't. a lot of times those girls aren't fashion models but are represented by talent agencies. the problem with this forum it's all about the high fashion models. There are lots of types of models including real people models. You know the type of people you see in print ads that look like normal average people.

Clients don't pick random women to model because most people are extremely awkward in front of a camera. I have seen it happen in a street casting. There is a reason why agencies test models. They have to see how she is both in person and in front of the camera. You can be beautiful but take horrible pictures.

It's the same with magazines. They say they don't use models; they mean they don't use fashion models. If you look hard enough, you can find a talent agency that represents them or they are freelance.

I never said street casting didn't exist. I just said most of the time it's a lie.
 
I have a friend who was on the AA website several times and was even in some billboard ads 2-3 years ago; she was just a regular student working at an American Apparel store who got picked to be in the ad campaign. She actually is tall and thin and could probably model with an agency, but she's not with an agency and never has been. A lot of normal stylish girls are not awkward in front of cameras at all - they are used to posing at parties, with friends, etc. and feel fine being in AA ads. I'm sure they hire professional models sometimes too, but to be honest most of the girls they pick as models are probably just store employees or girls they cast on the street.
 
this thread is for the e-commerce girls here are some more of them:

Mathilda Jansson


Simona Starkute


Anna Cunha


Celine Brinkgreve


Sandra Kubicka


Daniela Lopez Osorio


Carol Prates


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