Thanks Trista
I don't use eyeliner on my lower lashes, I'm too old for that

I have a brush similar to the 212, I'm not really into the smaller pointier ones. But does it smudge?
Well I consider the waterline and lower liner to be different. Lower liner, to me, is underneath the lashes-the underside of the lower lash line. Also it can be lower-lid liner in some books. Waterline is the tear line. You are never too old to be doing lower liner though. I think you just have to find the right one for you. I was watching a talk show that's based in Canada and they had a makeup artist on who said "If a 70-year old lady is tightlining, more power to her!".
As far as the 212 goes, I actually saw Carmindy smudging with what looked to be a 212 on What Not To Wear. There is a brush coming out with the Hair collection-the 214 I believe-that is actually more of a smudge-y brush. You can also use a 231 to smudge. I rarely ever do though, since I don't topline that often since my shadows are so bright (my favourite MAC shadows, after all, are In Living Pink and Bright Sunshine).
kwikspell said:
Thanks Trista!
Yeah, the veluxe pearl is definitely the attractive factor to me about Wintersky. Plus, Wintersky is something I know I'll get a ton of use out of, so it's a must. My very first MAC eyeshadow ever when I was waaaay younger was Pink Freeze, so I'll always have a soft spot for MAC's pinks.
In regards to Dame Edna, I agree with you about the eye colors. I'm definitely skipping those, in part because I have tons of dupes and also because I'm not crazy about any of the finishes. Now, if I could manage to get one of the empty packages and fill it with my own colors, I'd be ecstatic! Because it's the packaging that I really love. I'll probably just be getting a bunch of the lip colors, though. There are definitely dupes, but my MAC collection has a distinct lack of lipsticks/glosses in it so that's not an issue.
I'm thinking the Blonde Brunette Redhead collection is also going to be costly for me, but after that I'm cutting myself off for a while because I have zero interest in Hello Kitty.
See I wish that you could get the empty trio packaging. I would have never bought the Heatherette trios at retail, but I was gifted it. The nice thing is that you can depan and then use the thing as a palette in a way. I would definitely get the one with Climate Blue since that was a very popular colour with Cool Heat-and one of the ones to actually sell out.
The thing with the Hair collection is that everything is basics. None of the lip stuff is looking particularly interesting, and then the eyes are all on the more neutral side. I would rather track down Femme-Fi in the NSF packaging. If you love neutrals, then you will love Hair. The MSF's aren't as appealing, since I got So Ceylon and Petticoat, and hope to be getting Gold Deposit. If you don't have any MSF's, then go for the Hair ones. (I call it Hair-it makes it easier on me

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As far as other collections I heard about, there is going to be Cremeteam, which is Cremesheen (a few repromos, and then some new or LE shades), Cremesheen glass, and then a few Cremesheen pencils. Apparently there will also be a lot more to do with lashes and mascara. The mascara seems like Dazzlelash, but a double-ended mascara that has a Cils Booster-like thing on one end and then Dazzlelash on the other. There's also going to be honey-scented body products. Yet another thing I heard, although this is just rumour, is that there will be a pink collection.