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The Vegetarian & Vegan Thread

I can't imagine my reaction if a barbecue was nearby...:sick::yuk::angry::

Oh, it's the total opposite for me... maybe it's due to my being raised in Texas but I think barbeque is the most appealing smell in the world. :ninja: There's a barbeque/burger place by my grocery store and I have the worst time avoiding it, I can smell it from like five blocks away... :doh::innocent: I'm a vegetarian and I haven't caved in yet, but it's the one thing that I still crave alllllll the time.
 
Guysssss I have a major problem.

So I have no money left and since it's finals i need to consume as much food as possible so I can keep my brain going...but here is the catch:

I only have meat left and half a spaghetti box left. My mom brought some down with her last time she came here cause she forgot I'm vegetarian so now i don't know what to do.

I feel bad cause I'm against eating meat, but I feel bad my mom bought it and wasted her money if I don't eat it and I need to eat.

ugh :(
 
^Do you live in a dorm? You could try trading it with one of your neighbors, maybe?
 
that's strange, eating a lot to keep your brain going.I say take a break.it will make you seriously reconsider eating meat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Guysssss I have a major problem.

So I have no money left and since it's finals i need to consume as much food as possible so I can keep my brain going...but here is the catch:

I only have meat left and half a spaghetti box left. My mom brought some down with her last time she came here cause she forgot I'm vegetarian so now i don't know what to do.

I feel bad cause I'm against eating meat, but I feel bad my mom bought it and wasted her money if I don't eat it and I need to eat.

ugh :(


If that's the only thing left and you have no cash, eat it. If it helps, put it this way: It's better to eat it and thank the animal for it's sacrifice than to throw it out, making it's death go to waste.
 
foreverandnone, you need to have a chat with your mother and remind her. For the amount of money she spent on meat, she could have bought a lot more veg food that would feed your brain for longer. Good luck with exams! :heart:

OK, This is for you old-timers.

I've been veg/vegan for most of my life. I don't advertise it but I don't hide it either. I know people think vegans in particular are self-rightous assholes and yeah, some are. I guess my point is that while I'm vegan, I do it for me, not to make a political statement or to be confrontational. As I've said in this thread before, people have to do what's right for them.

That being said, while I try not to be judgemental, I've noticed that as I'm getting older I'm losing my tolerance. I don't want to be around meat, people eating meat, the smell of meat or fish. I made an excuse not to attend a Thanksgiving dinner (or as Morrissey would say, Thanks-killing, ha!) because I couldn't bear it. Other vegans went and I know that there was plenty of vegan food and no one forcing anyone to eat anything, but when I heard that they had to have two Turkeys because of all the people attending, my heart sank. :(

Anyone else getting like this? I'm starting to think that if this continues I will not be able to live in regular society and will have to join an order of veg Buddhist monks in the mountains somewhere! :lol:
 
^ I think you just have to realize that people are at different points on their journey, different places on their paths. I feel similarly when I see people throwing away recyclables when the darn cart or recycling container is right there :angry:, or being petty and judgmental, or ripping out 80-year-old hardwood floors that still have plenty of life in them, or beautiful tilework of the same age, etc.

As my hairstylist put it when her boyfriend wanted their dogs to go veg, "That isn't their dharma" :lol: There won't be a time in our lifetimes when there aren't people around who just don't 'get it,' whatever it might be ... so I think you just have to be tolerant, for your own peace of mind if nothing else.

I find Thanksgiving to be a beautiful holiday, meant to celebrate gratitude, and perhaps the only one where consumerism hasn't been able to gain a foothold ... there's a lot to love about it, you don't want to miss all of that.
 
Thanks, fashionista-ta! :heart:

A big part of veganism (for me, anyhow) is compassion. And yes, I know that compassion should extend to everyone. Even those who eat meat! I'm trying not to lose my tolerance, I really am. I don't want to be one of those old people who hates everything. :lol:

I agree that Thanksgiving is really about gratitude. I guess I just have a hard time with its traditional association with Turkey. I do understand it intellectually, but all I see in my head is sad dead Turkey carcass. It strikes me as not only disgusting but also incredibly primitive.

That's one thing that really gets me - people eating ground beef or processed deli meats do not gross me out as much as people eating chicken drumsticks or steak. I think it's weird that people do not find gnawing bones horrifying!

And funny about recycling and waste - I have been known to take things home from events because someone doesn't have proper recycling! :shock:
 
^ Yup, I have 4 recycling carts because I used to bring all the recycling home from work ;)

Actually I'm completely disgusted myself by people eating turkey legs at the state fair :ninja: It really makes me think of cavemen :p

What I try to do is kind of expose people to 'my truth,' and if it resonates with them, great, and if not, well ... some people are working on a different lesson, and there are other truths as well. And if someone is still working on crawling, they aren't going to be very interested in your great new jogging shoes ;)

Maybe rather than be disgusted about the turkey, you could bring delicious vegan food and your recipes and share them. It's news to a lot of people that you can even have a satisfying meal without a hunk of meat on the table. So it's helpful just to share that ... by sharing a meal with someone, you could open up a whole new way of thinking to them.
 
It seems that, in our overly-supplied world, some plants have given up eating meat (independent.co.uk):

Attack of the killer tomatoes

Botanists at Kew discover the plant is carnivorous, with ability to trap insects

Saturday, 5 December 2009

Potatoes and tomatoes make good eating but they may also have a vicious side that makes them deadly killers on a par with venus fly traps and pitcher plants. They have been identified as among a host of plants thought to have been overlooked by botanists and explorers searching the world’s remotest regions for carnivorous species.

Researchers at Royal Botanical Gardens Kew now believe there are hundreds more plants that catch and eat insects and other small animals than they previously realised. Among them are species of petunia, ornamental tobacco plants, potatoes and tomatoes and shepherd’s purse, a relative of cabbages.

“Widely recognised carnivorous plants number some 650 and we estimate that another 325 or so are probable additions – so an increase of about 50 per cent,” said Dr Mike Fay, of Kew.

Researchers realised the plant world was more bloodthirsty than had been realised when they carried out an assessment of carnivorous plants to celebrate the bicentenary of Charles Darwin’s birth. Darwin himself had been fascinated by carnivorous plants and conducted many experiments in which he fed them meat, and in 1875 his book on them, Insectivorous Plants, was published.

Dr Fay said it is likely that the meat-eating qualities of many plants has gone unrecognised because they are missing some of the prime characteristics associated with carnivorous species. Pitcher plants and venus fly traps have specialist structures to kill and devour their prey but other plants are more subtle and rely on supplementing their usual diet by passive means.

Among them are plants such as ornamental tobaccos, and some species of potatoes and tomatoes which have sticky hairs which trap aphids and other small invertebrates. It is thought that rather than devour the prey directly the dead bodies decay slowly and the nutrients fall to the ground where they are taken up by the roots.

“They catch little aphids on the sticky hairs all the time. As these insects break down and drop to the ground the ground becomes enriched and the plants absorb them through the roots,” he said.

Such an ability is comparable to that of Roridula in Southern Africa which has sticky leaves on which flies get stuck but has no means of digesting them. It relies on a bug which devours the flies and the plant is then able to extract nutrients from the faeces which drop to the ground.

Domestic varieties of tomatoes and potatoes retain the ability to trap and kill small insects with their sticky hairs and are likely to absorb the nutrients through their roots when the animals decay and fall to the ground. They are, however, thought to derive little benefit because they are so well-supplied with fertilisers whereas in the wild it might be an important source of food.

Professor Mark Chase, of Kew and Queen Mary, University of London, said: “The cultivated tomatoes and potatoes still have the hairs. Tomatoes in particular are covered with these sticky hairs. They do trap small insects on a regular basis. They do kill insects. We suspect in the domesticated varieties they are getting plenty of food through the roots from us so don’t get much benefit from trapping insects. In the wild they could be functioning in the way that could properly be considered carnivorous.”

Shepherd’s purse is thought to be carnivorous, at least in part, because its seeds are covered in a thin layer of a substance that both attracts tiny organisms in the soil and kills them. Furthermore, the seeds secrete an enzyme which can break down the bodies so the nutrients can be taken up during germination.

Dr Fay said the study’s findings backed up the idea that all flowering plants began with the capacity to eat meat when they evolved but that only some of them made use of and retained the ability.

The researchers, publishing their finding in The Botanical Journal of the Linnean Society, added: “We may be surrounded by many more murderous plants than we think. We are accustomed to think of plants as being immobile and harmless, and there is something deeply unnerving about the thought of carnivorous plants.

“Overall, angiosperms [flowering plants] of many types may be involved in a degree of carnivory and be ‘proto-carnivorous’; perhaps we should be more curious about why more plant species have not developed a ‘taste’ for animal-derived nutrients.”

Blood-curdling tales of meat-eating plants have fascinated people in Britain ever since the first live venus flytrap to reach London caused a sensation across Europe in the 18th century. Stories of man-eating specimens have held a particular attraction since featuring in such stories as The Day of the Triffids (1951) and The Little Shop of Horrors (1960) – more recently in the Harry Potter books, whose Venomous Tentacula tries to seize living prey with its grasping vines.

One 19th-century tale of a tree in Madagascar with tentacles that would grab hold of people and drag them to their doom even purported to be based on eyewitness accounts and was only discounted in the 20th century. Another reported a man-eating tree in Central America which would crush bodies with its tentacles “until every drop of blood is squeezed out of it and becomes absorbed by the gore-loving plant”.

The potato can only dream...
 
cygnenoir - i agree with your earlier post.
Everytime I'm out eating with friends they mention me not being able to eat meat and how it's not going to stop animal cruelty or the meat industry...and I dont even bring it up.

They tell me that It's stupid and naive...Like shuddap. I do it to know I'm not a part of that world. I just hate having to explain or defend myself...and I'm not going to anymore :D
 
Meat eaters are the main bulk of the population and therefore don't need to defend themselves and their disgusting,inhumane diets.We shouldn't have to either.We have the freedom to eat anything, and kudos to us all who realize that it is the wisest and most environmentally and ecologically sound way to live and eat.
 
I know, sometimes I just want to say "Hey - eyes on your own plate!" :lol:

The other night I went to a party at a Chinese restaurant. The food was served family style and most of it was meat and fish. I quietly spoke to the waitress and found out which dishes were vegan, which meant I mostly had vegetables. Perfectly fine and more than enough food.

A girl I don't know well kept saying loud things like "Is that ALL you're eating!?" I think that she was trying to imply that I had an eating disorder or something! I have no idea why she thought what I was eating was so fascinating. I just smiled, nodded and ignored her. Had she been curious or polite I would have just told her. :p
 
I know, sometimes I just want to say "Hey - eyes on your own plate!" :lol:

The other night I went to a party at a Chinese restaurant. The food was served family style and most of it was meat and fish. I quietly spoke to the waitress and found out which dishes were vegan, which meant I mostly had vegetables. Perfectly fine and more than enough food.

A girl I don't know well kept saying loud things like "Is that ALL you're eating!?" I think that she was trying to imply that I had an eating disorder or something! I have no idea why she thought what I was eating was so fascinating. I just smiled, nodded and ignored her. Had she been curious or polite I would have just told her. :p

I think it's funny that Asians have a lot of foods that are strictly vegetables or meat-free, yet they're the main ones who are surprised that I don't eat meat. I'm Asian myself, so it's even more shocking to other Asians.
 
I think it's funny that Asians have a lot of foods that are strictly vegetables or meat-free, yet they're the main ones who are surprised that I don't eat meat. I'm Asian myself, so it's even more shocking to other Asians.

I know! It is weird since there are lots of Asian restaurants that do faux meat. There's one I used to go to that had the exact same menu on both sides - one side meat/one side fake meat. There's even Loving Hut, that international chain of vegan Vietnamese resturants.

But it's always, always my Asian relatives who ask the same question year after year "you eat seafood right?" ARRRRRGH! :blink:
 
Sometimes i experienced meat eaters being/feeling attacked just by my meal choices... myself not even having done any mention about it... or being picky with their meals... Then its when it really get like i should ask respect for my animals rights choice...
 
^ PS The comments on the article are probably more helpful than the article itself ... the mushroom-based faux turkey sounds like a good bet (one of the posters makes it from scratch rather than Quorn).
 
This week I had to endure another discussion with a non-vegetarian about how I can't possibly enjoy my food because it's without any meat. Ugh, that's so stupid :ninja: and of course you can savour vegetarian or vegan food.
 

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