Theyskens confirmed at Nina Ricci - updated

Grauso said Theyskens’ arrival would signal no major changes in management or the pricing positioning of the collection. Ricci’s president, Christophe Hebre, joined the firm last October from Rochas, where he was instrumental in recruiting Theyskens.

Accessories currently represent less than 10 percent of the Ricci business, and Grauso said he spies a “large opportunity” for the brand to grow in handbags and shoes, categories for which Theyskens said he has many ideas.

At present, Ricci has one company-owned flagship on Avenue Montaigne in Paris, which Theyskens will ultimately make over in his image. “We would love to have a New York store in the near future, and we’d like to develop a shop-in-shop program in the near future,” Grauso said.

With Theyskens on board, Ricci now ranks as a key growth priority for the Puig Fashion Group, which also includes Carolina Herrera and Paco Rabanne. As reported, Paco Rabanne did not ship its fall/winter collection and has been winding down its high-cost Paris operations.

“We have decided to take a step back from the Paco business, and we are eliminating the collection piece,” Grauso said, officially confirming the retrenchment for the first time. “We’ve decided to focus our resources on Carolina Herrera and Ricci. They’ve shown clear signs of being able to grow.”

However, he noted that Rabanne’s creative director, Patrick Robinson, would remain with the brand to oversee licensed products such as watches and eyewear as the company scouts for deals in other categories, possibly in apparel (albeit not in the designer zone).

Paco Rabanne’s male-driven fragrance business, which is “healthy and growing,” is unaffected by the changes, Grauso noted.

Looking ahead, the executive said Ricci’s future growth drivers could include a second rtw brand. “I think Olivier’s spirit would translate into another price tier, but it’s not an immediate priority,” he noted.

For his part, Theyskens is champing at the bit to design all sorts of products for Ricci.

“Everything a woman has on is something I love,” Theyskens said, smiling. “Nina Ricci is a great brand for everything that is feminine, from lingerie to dresses. It’s a very good thing to find this alchemy.”
 
Thanks for posting the article!
I think Nina Ricci is lovely for him, aesthetic wise.
There has been much keen interest in Nina Ricci in Japan these past few years too, now it can be even better. :heart:
I can't wait for March.

(He sounds quite the diplomat :ninja::P )
 
so... it's finally confirmed.

I saw this happening but secretly hoped it wouldn't, it's strange to see Olivier feeling only positive about the change, and it somewhat bothers me to hear that they have such ambitious plans with the label... Lars Nilsson didn't do a bad job at all, which shows in the 50% growth of the RTW business they announced... in fact, I find him the more 'commercial' designer on the mainstream if compared to Olivier... even though he DEFINITELY lacks the visionary approach that Olivier has been known for.

Olivier will be granted creative freedom for a certain amount of time, but it is obvious that the company executives expect him to grow a profitable business as a continuation of what had already been done at the house... in that regard, he will be compared with Lars Nillson for sure.

Let's hope he will be doing a good job, both on a creative and commercial level.
 
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I love Olivier and I'm glad he sounds so positive, but Nillson did a good job as well, and I hope people don't turn on Theyskens if he doesn't instantly turn it into a cash cow.
 
That's good news. Might see a lot of Nina Ricci on fashion edotirial now!

:heart:
 
tricotineacetat said:
so... it's finally confirmed.

it's strange to see Olivier feeling only positive about the change, and it somewhat bothers me to hear that they have such ambitious plans with the label


Well, if he did have any uneasiness or doubts I don't think he would let it be known publicly. For all we know his enthusiasm is just a mask. Nina Ricci has had the luck of snapping up one of the greatest design talents alive and I'm sure they want to capitalize on it. I do think that Rochas had a bad business team, and I'm sure Theysken's own people have learned from any mistakes they may have made. I'm optimistic about this. I hope Theyskens has what he needs now to make the things (and enjoy some stability) he wants.
 
zamb said:
would love to see him at chanel.
i mean..
karl is there now but.........
he is very old
love him but his youth serum will not last forever

theyskens at chanel would be a dream

Bwah-ha-ha on the youth serum :lol: :lol:

You make a good point, and I would far rather see Theyskens than Marc Jacobs at Chanel, to state the obvious ... Olivier would really DO something with it ... He's the kind of guy who would have ideas that would rank with Chanel's own, vs parody/commercialization we mostly see now :innocent:

Givenchy certainly seems preferable to Ricci, but Olivier has a long career ahead of him and plenty of time for other moves. Agree with Meg that except for "young and feminine" Ricci really has no current image ... it's been charming but a bit blah ... again as Meg said, nothing really to justify the prices if you don't feel a burning need to buy designer.

I don't work in fashion, but there are definite parameters to my work, and I don't find that that really limits creativity ... I see no reason why Theyskens can't take Ricci and run with it. In my mind it's really his vision of femininity that's important, and that doesn't conflict with Ricci. Ricci has been much more wearable than Rochas, so I personally hope that that parameter guides him in a way that would make it "practical" for me to own some of his work :wink:
 
nina ricci was so forgettable, except for one season, when nilsons work actually "stuck", i was SOOOO surprised to find nina ricci at dover street market...I dont see the appeal of the brand so i am eagerly anticipating Oliviers first work!
 
hm, i'm partial on this...larsson wasn't bad at ricci, i mostly really loved his collections, but somehow i can imagine theyskens doing an even better job there.......
 
well,I imagine at this juncture in time,anything Theyskens does could undoubtedly turn to platinum. however,I am a little disappointed in his decision.
 
i think its a beautiful opportunity, i had been paying a bit of attention to nina ricci the last few years and actually liking it but thinking it needs a boost, very romantic and sophisticated but it just needs more distinction to make it more than just really pretty, what fun for him to have the room and money to recreate a house, plus it is alot harder than people think to just start their own line and be successfull especially in todays market, the average shopper is fickle alot of stuff the fashion crowd adores will never be commercially a hit and this is the bottom line, better to have a big vehicle behind you
 
someone mentioned chanel
didn't karl mention something a few years back about olivier possibly taking over chanel???
i like nina ricci, but it doesn't carry the right connotation for olivier. to me, his stuff is deeply romantic, mostly minimalist, but there's also a very slight gothic take on it (apparent the raven dress, and a his earlier stuff). that combination was perfect.
 
I do believe that Oliver at Chanel will one day come to pass. Karl has no intention of retiring and there is no reason (at least not in my mind) for him to do so at the moment. He's still vital, influential and creative. I love what he's done for Chanel in terms of design and the brand's general scope. I feel he's brought a youthful new client to Chanel especially in recent years.

However. There will come a day when Karl will take off his sunglasses and want to rest. When that day comes Oliver is the perfect person to take over, his ideas would rival Chanel's in terms of scope and genius. His aesthetic would mesh well with the Chanel look and he's just plain brilliant enough to carry the whole thing off. I can think of no one else right for the job. I personally love Marc through thick and thin but I cannot for the life of me imagine him at Chanel. It just seems...wrong.

As for this Nina Ricci gig I am thrilled, excited, giddy and impatient. I have followed Oliver's career from the start so this is just another exciting chapter. Lars was good at Nina Ricci but I agree that the label never stood out in spite of how lovely Lars' creations were. There was something a bit average about them, everything was pretty but it was a version of pretty that we'd seen before. Which is not to say that there is anything subpar about Lars' design skills. I don't know if we ever really got a chance to see the full range of what Lars could do while at Nina Ricci. Yes he was/is astoundingly talented but something about that union did not allow for him to reach his full potential. I'm sure Lars will find another house wherein he will thrive. For the time being though I cannot wait to see what Oliver comes up with. Whatever it is I'm sure we wont be disappointed! This is the start of a new era!
 
I'm a little disappointed, but it could certainly be worse. I look forward to seeing what he does for Nina Ricci.
 
from wwd...he may show in nyc...

Talk about a hot ticket. Word has it in Europe that Olivier Theyskens intends to show his first designs for Nina Ricci in New York, not Paris, come January. The designer, who officially started at the Paris house last week, is said to be zeroing in on a date to show the pre-fall collection at Ricci's Chelsea showrooms with the invitation list limited to some 50 guests.
 
i just read that kimair...
sheesh--- that is one TIGHT guestlist...
:shock:...

interesting strategy---
 
softgrey said:
i just read that kimair...
sheesh--- that is one TIGHT guestlist...
:shock:...

interesting strategy---


not even the skinny jeans you have to powder yourself to fit in is not this tight.........

i bet they have to accomodate more than that number though
 
I know some hipsters that are going to be pissed.....

Egads....that's really exclusive
 
what I don't understand is that there was no Rochas this season because gamble and ??? had financial troubles and closed! right? so Theyskens goes to Ricci (by the way the show might be in jan. for the Couture week).
But Nina Ricci is under the power of Puig. Puig owned Paco Rabanne. Paco Rabanne didn't show because of Puig's financial troubles this season.
so my question is : WHY Theyskens is going to work for a House that is owned by label killers?????

sorry if you're lost, I am too!

Fashion & Finances....omfg!
 

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