What's Next in John Galliano's Career?

[xoxoadore]

I really want to cry! Is he never going to be able to redeem himself?? This is pathetic!

 

[Littleathquakes]

How is this not a witch hunt?
He deserved to lose his job at Dior and his legion d'honneur recognition. But when does it stop? He's been under the radar, working out his problems. An opportunity like the one at Parson's wouldn't have just benefited him but the students as well. But it seems like the same people who appeal for tolerance and equality have little capacity for forgiveness.

I have been making that exact same point in the JG thread in the Rumors section. The people who are calling for his eternal crucifixion are no better than him during his tirade.

 

[williscrazy]

it is a shame to be honest, a friend thats studying at parsons told me that some professor wouldn't even write recommendation letters for the student once they heard what it is for. I personally think Galliano's teaching would only benefit the student, and it will probably worth more than a term with some lackluster professors in parsons. it's the school and student's loss at the end of the day.

 

[lepetitcouturier]

it is a shame to be honest, a friend thats studying at parsons told me that some professor wouldn't even write recommendation letters for the student once they heard what it is for. I personally think Galliano's teaching would only benefit the student, and it will probably worth more than a term with some lackluster professors in parsons. it's the school and student's loss at the end of the day.

That is so upsetting. You know, there's politicians who go and sleep with a million women. Mel Gibson is a blatant anti-semite and he's still got his career. So why is it that John isn't able to redeem his? He's got everyone's support. The ADL, Anna Wintour, you name it. He's more than made up for it. He didn't sit there and issue a public apology like other people do. He worked on it. He went to rehab, he worked hands on with the ADL. He's more than made up for it. So the fact that this school is taking such a huge opportunity away from their students is just baffling. Especially after he's done so much to make up for what he said.

 

[Boomer]

Obviously Parsons was fine, and even excited, about his involvement; this whole development just screams arm twisting behind the scene by powerful entities to wreck it...would be interesting to figure out who it might be....

 

[Nymphaea]

Obviously Parsons was fine, and even excited, about his involvement; this whole development just screams arm twisting behind the scene by powerful entities to wreck it...would be interesting to figure out who it might be....

I agree, it would be very interesting to know who's behind this.

 

[lepetitcouturier]

I agree, it would be very interesting to know who's behind this.

I'm sure it was all the people who were protesting. And with all those people (like that silly "petition") I think that it was most likely people who didn't even go to Parsons. The most screwed up thing about this is how they took away such an amazing opportunity. These people could've learned a lot in just three days from this man. They can overlook John Galliano's personal life and focus on the fact that he is one of the most revered fashion designers in history. I think it has more to do with these people's arrogance that they don't even care about how upset the students who really wanted to do this must be. Does anyone know some students there who planning on trying to get into it and their reactions? It would be interesting to know how they feel about it.

 

[williscrazy]

The students are also where the complaints are coming from, there are jewish student who were completely against it and kept on protesting and persuading other students to be with them. Then there are students who decided to not apply for the workshop because of their friends which is just nonsense to me.

 

[Marc10]

Are people really surprised by this? Galliano's image and reputation is forever damaged. No matter how talented he is and how respected he was, his "incident" will follow him wherever he goes. The bad moments always will surpass the good moments when you're a public person, that's just the way it is. While I agree that the classes would be a fantastic opportunity for the students, I also fully understand why some would be against it.

 

[fashionista-ta]

It definitely does sound like a condition that was imposed ex post facto, and Galliano didn't go for it. Sounds like he's looking for more blaze of glory than mea culpa conditions. The spinmeisters at Parsons did a fairly masterful job with that press release.

 

[iluvjeisa]

Are people really surprised by this? Galliano's image and reputation is forever damaged. No matter how talented he is and how respected he was, his "incident" will follow him wherever he goes. The bad moments always will surpass the good moments when you're a public person, that's just the way it is. While I agree that the classes would be a fantastic opportunity for the students, I also fully understand why some would be against it.

That idea might ultimately be what brings the western world down to its knees. It's a serious threat against democracy IMO.

Might sound melodramatic, but it essentially means you can never say anything without first carefully going over it with a PR consultant...

 

[valliaddict]

Am I the only one here who thinks Parsons wasn't asking for much from him? I mean, John is more than a designer. He's a celebrity, & most celebrities do have to talk about their wrongdoings if they want to clean up their image. He's BEEN a famewhore for decades. He's has no problem talking about anything in the world BUT this. We don't want to make Mr. Galliano uncomfortable, do we? I could understand if someone like Christopher Decarnin wanted to come back to the industry quietly, but John Galliano always had something to say before this scandal, & now he wants to pretend like none of this ever happened. If he does come back without having to talk about his actions, then quite frankly, he is getting off way too easy. I just laugh at the people who are saying "he has suffered long enough" or "just let the man do what loves." Getting paid to do what you love is a privilege, & it's not something that everyone gets to experience. So many people feel sorry for him & want everyone to just let this whole thing go, but I think millions of people out there (especially Jewish customers who spent a fortune on his clothes) have a right to hear what he has to say on the matter. I'm all for him coming back & restoring his legacy, but grow some balls & talk about what happened first. He's lucky to even have this much support from the fashion industry, because had this been any other field, his career would be over without any possibility of redemption.

 

[EnModeArtiste]

Am I the only one here who thinks Parsons wasn't asking for much from him? I mean, John is more than a designer. He's a celebrity, & most celebrities do have to talk about their wrongdoings if they want to clean up their image. He's BEEN a famewhore for decades. He's has no problem talking about anything in the world BUT this. We don't want to make Mr. Galliano uncomfortable, do we? I could understand if someone like Christopher Decarnin wanted to come back to the industry quietly, but John Galliano always had something to say before this scandal, & now he wants to pretend like none of this ever happened. If he does come back without having to talk about his actions, then quite frankly, he is getting off way too easy. I just laugh at the people who are saying "he has suffered long enough" or "just let the man do what loves." Getting paid to do what you love is a privilege, & it's not something that everyone gets to experience. So many people feel sorry for him & want everyone to just let this whole thing go, but I think millions of people out there (especially Jewish customers who spent a fortune on his clothes) have a right to hear what he has to say on the matter. I'm all for him coming back & restoring his legacy, but grow some balls & talk about what happened first. He's lucky to even have this much support from the fashion industry, because had this been any other field, his career would be over without any possibility of redemption.

Off-topic but I totally forgot about him Is he dead or what ?

 

[softgrey]

this is totally pathetic...

why should he have to have a public therapy session in order to teach a class...?!
that is beyond crap...it's total BS...
and has nothing to do with the subject he was scheduled to teach...

i could see if it was some lecture on the dangers and traps one could fall into when working in fashion...
but that is a whole other ball of wax...

crap---just a load of crap...

this is why i didn't go to parsons...
bunch of rich b*tch, self-entitled a**holes...

 

[Littleathquakes]

Am I the only one here who thinks Parsons wasn't asking for much from him? I mean, John is more than a designer. He's a celebrity, & most celebrities do have to talk about their wrongdoings if they want to clean up their image. He's BEEN a famewhore for decades. He's has no problem talking about anything in the world BUT this. We don't want to make Mr. Galliano uncomfortable, do we? I could understand if someone like Christopher Decarnin wanted to come back to the industry quietly, but John Galliano always had something to say before this scandal, & now he wants to pretend like none of this ever happened. If he does come back without having to talk about his actions, then quite frankly, he is getting off way too easy. I just laugh at the people who are saying "he has suffered long enough" or "just let the man do what loves." Getting paid to do what you love is a privilege, & it's not something that everyone gets to experience. So many people feel sorry for him & want everyone to just let this whole thing go, but I think millions of people out there (especially Jewish customers who spent a fortune on his clothes) have a right to hear what he has to say on the matter. I'm all for him coming back & restoring his legacy, but grow some balls & talk about what happened first. He's lucky to even have this much support from the fashion industry, because had this been any other field, his career would be over without any possibility of redemption.

I think his reticence has more to do with the fact that there is still a lawsuit ongoing between him and his former employer. Although I don't think a few years down the road he would be screaming about it at the top of his lungs, I do think he will be more open to discussing it by then and all answers will (hopefully) be revealed.

 

[valliaddict]

this is totally pathetic...

why should he have to have a public therapy session in order to teach a class...?!
that is beyond crap...it's total BS...
and has nothing to do with the subject he was scheduled to teach...

i could see if it was some lecture on the dangers and traps one could fall into when working in fashion...
but that is a whole other ball of wax...

crap---just a load of crap...

this is why i didn't go to parsons...
bunch of rich b*tch, self-entitled a**holes...

For him, this is more than just a class. This was supposed to be some form of redemption for him. A way to slowly step back into the industry, but as a very public, very famous figure, he shouldn't be allowed to ignore the elephant in the room. It's not like he's going back to some basic 9-to-5 job after this whole thing blows over. With all this overwhelming support from the industry, he will most likely find another seven figure job & things will go back to normal. This Parsons thing is just a bump in the road on his sympathy tour. Don't worry though. He has enough people in the fashion industry who are more than happy to ignore the issue & help him get back on top. While what Parsons did was sneaky (I doubt the part about him having to speak on the controversy was in big, bold font in the contract), he should've just been a man about it, taken the job, & answered the questions. Politicians have to deal with this all the time when they do something bad. So do actors, musicians, athletes, socialites, etc. John liked being a public figure before all of this. He should be treated like one. Face your critics & don't be a coward.

 

[softgrey]

he's not a politician, though...
he is an artist...
much more sensitive by nature and not necessarily good at fielding the prying questions of nosy people who just want to hear some juicy gossip...

frankly-
if he had gotten drunk and made those statements iin another country, those people couldn't have even pressed charges on him because we have a thing here called free speech...
and you can't be arrested for just not liking someone and calling them a name...
can you imagine...?!?
every kid in school would be arrested if name calling were illegal...


the way he is being persecuted is the hate crime, as far as i am concerned...

and like i said earlier---
complete BS...
ugh!

...

 

[fashionista-ta]

That idea might ultimately be what brings the western world down to its knees. It's a serious threat against democracy IMO.

Might sound melodramatic, but it essentially means you can never say anything without first carefully going over it with a PR consultant...

Yes to melodramatic, because 999 out of 1000 non-PR professionals would be able to tell you that what John said (unplanned, I'm sure) was an extremely bad idea. There are certainly threats to democracy, but I don't see this as one of them. I think clearly democracy is at work here ... the people voted no on this class.

It would be interesting to know if a more technical class would have met the same level of protest.

 

[Littleathquakes]

I would argue that it's not democratic - the people who voted no are an oligarchy in this case - those with the power to make the choice. They did not respresent a constituent of the population, the same way we vote in America for a president.

 

[laika]

he's not a politician, though...
he is an artist...
much more sensitive by nature and not necessarily good at fielding the prying questions of nosy people who just want to hear some juicy gossip...

...

the way he is being persecuted is the hate crime, as far as i am concerned...

and like i said earlier---
complete BS...
ugh!

...

the fact that he's an "artist" and "sensitive" does not excuse him from being accountable, and especially to students.
he failed to maintain a fairly basic level of social and cultural decency and he is a public figure...a role
that he has cultivated and enjoyed, as pointed out above.

i think this whole thing was a bit of a stunt from the beginning--not fair to John or the student body.
he may be a brilliant designer, but there is no evidence that he would be a good teacher.
i would argue that in the vast majority of cases, the two things do not go hand in hand (and the level of ego involved here only exacerbates what's typically true).
And I'm 100% confident that the decision to cancel this thing was due to financial pressure.
They are back-pedaling on a bad business decision (because universities are a BUSINESS these days)
and they are using this open forum thing as a scapegoat.

in any case, losing a job at Parsons is hardly tantamount to "persecution" or to being ruined.
i'm sure Galliano will be fine...he has a lot of friends and a lot of resources.