Who is really behind your favorite label?

[vetements]

is that truee????
i didnt know that!
hmm

just wondering,
is Como Designs the Singaporean company?

 

[ApertureRomance]

I've always wondered about see by chloe ?

 

[indie]

Not really behinda label, but this girl did the headpieces in recent Dior HC show:
http://eudoxie.carbonmade.com/projects/2011982
She was interning there!

 

[Scott]

it's okay gius. we haven't heard much about him at all as he's become so reclusive now since retiring,that its probably easy to think such a thing.

 

[Deleted member 103203]

^^I wonder is he makes money from the collections or the company

 

[Scott]

that's a good question

 

[mikka000]

and comme des garcons' many labels are designed by other people too. i know tricot at the time before branching out in her own namesake was designed by tao--still is i believe.

junya watanabe also designed for tricot. however, i don't think this is kept as a secret though. i've seen an interview with tao about tricot from a while back. i think comme des garcons is more transparent the other labels.

 

[mikka000]

if you watch signe chanel, the documentary (available on youtube) you'll see it's not like he does the whole process at all, but he supervises. he does the sketching as you said, then explains what the new collection is like to the "premières d'atelier" who direct small groups of seamstresses. Then he has to control how every outfit evolves down to the day of the fitting, when he styles it with accessories. it's an inmense job he does, as he is the one with the whole responsibility. the styling, every look, cohesiveness throughout the collection, the setting, the music, the campaign... he doesnt create it all himself, how could he! and we must keep in mind that if people dont like, say the setting, it will be his fault! and we all know even if he didnt get down and dirty painting the huge chanel jacket in grand palais... still he gets credit for it! it's the same thing with the clothes.
in the same video you see a girl who seems more responsible of the shoes, just guessing, but besides knowing how he wants them to look like, karl just cant tell you exactly how the shoe has to be designed. i am not even talking about producing it (massaro does that), but designing the shoes is something that a different designer who is specialized in shoes must do, no?

just one more thing in defence of my dear karl (or designers in general) is that, as also karl emphasizes in one of his interviews, he may rarely "touch fabric", not to mention a needle... but if ever a seamstress needs his help on how to create a cut/volume/shape/proportion, he has to know exactly what to tell her. And thanks to his vast experience, he's got the skills and know-how to indicate her precisely how she has to do it, without necessarily doing it himself.


for other creative designers, whose case i dont know so well, i would say that they of course need a team that develops their ideas. after all, they are the ones setting the mood of the season to come, and to develop certain ideas, not actual designs. it seems like it's not a lot of work maybe, or not such a big deal... but again, think of it as a matter of responsibility: if they do wrong, it's their head that the company wants.they are the ones getting fired, when suzy menkes says she no likes!

a last note, i do agree with you on second lines that are actually only licences for the name... so it's plain quality clothing + expensive label attached... it stinks!!

i think that's often the case, the designer can't do everything and has a team to help them. but it's still their vision and they oversee the process. i think this is acceptable and true for other creative pursuits, such as music, where there is a team of people involved but it's the artists name that gets thrown around publicly. second lines are of crouse the true evil and people need to be aware of the removed nature of these lines from the designer who's name is on the label.

 

[Deleted member 7575]

just wondering,
is Como Designs the Singaporean company?

yes

All of the brands I listed were licensee's. The head of the brands still have creative say but their involvement varies.

 

[thejarc]

I've heard that Christopher Kane is doing all the Versace Couture.

 

[le go garçon 84]

I've heard that Christopher Kane is doing all the Versace Couture.

I've also heard rumours about him working for Versace, but i didn't knew that it was @ Atelier Versace, but if it's true then that's great news. Fresh air to the house.

 

[le go garçon 84]

Oh and BTW, geat thread very interesting.

 

[KhaoticKharma]

I get the feeling, through reading most of this thread, that the job of Creative Director is not unlike that of manager in a department store; though you may not be doing the manual labor, you supervise and guide it and, ultimatly, take the heat or glory from the failure or success.

 

[SHSH]

I've also heard rumours about him working for Versace, but i didn't knew that it was @ Atelier Versace, but if it's true then that's great news. Fresh air to the house.

i think that will be amazing for Versace if that is true..., is it just me or does mainland Europe tend to swallow up all great british designers *humph*... john galliano...

 

[jealoushe]

Great idea for a thread. I do wish there were a comprehensive list comparing who designs/heads a label's main line to to designs/heads its diffusion line(s). I know Marc Jacobs isn't at all involved in his Marc by Marc Jacobs line, and I've always wondered who designs for MMJ. I wonder if leadership has shifted - the diffusion line has improved a lot in the past year.