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Alessandro Michele - Designer, Creative Director of Valentino

I wonder why brands are so f**** basic. They can’t think out of the box. Always the same old names… they deserve everything they are going through.

I’m sure Bellini will be paid several millions after the disaster he did at Chloé…

And Margiela under him had 0 successes… it has been way more successful as of late.

Really baffling.
 
I wonder why brands are so f**** basic. They can’t think out of the box. Always the same old names… they deserve everything they are going through.

I’m sure Bellini will be paid several millions after the disaster he did at Chloé…

And Margiela under him had 0 successes… it has been way more successful as of late.

Really baffling.
Everyone, and by everyone, I mean the suits are racing to turn every fashion house into the biggest mega-brand. The strategy is to service everyone, at every time, in every category. But the more they expand, the more identity dissolves.

The irony is that the way they merchandise categories through data might as well be AI. Collections feel engineered for reach in a disingenuous way, not resonance. Karl had a way of designing and reaching all ages etc in a way that was authentic. He was not my favorite designer but I always thought he was smart in that way.

The fashion houses are scaling like tech companies now. Clothes, make up, trinkets etc. that sell, but rarely mean anything. What we are seeing now is they are diluting brands and compromising the art direction and vision so much that some people aren’t buying into it anymore. There is no tribe or vision to connect to. Versace i think is the biggest example of this.

The most radical thing a house could do today isn’t expansion, it’s restraint. Ie. If that rumor is true about givenchy stopping their menswear operation. To say no. To protect the integrity of a singular point of view in a world obsessed with more. We don’t need more stores and more collections, cafes, spas
 
Everyone, and by everyone, I mean the suits are racing to turn every fashion house into the biggest mega-brand. The strategy is to service everyone, at every time, in every category. But the more they expand, the more identity dissolves.

The irony is that the way they merchandise categories through data might as well be AI. Collections feel engineered for reach in a disingenuous way, not resonance. Karl had a way of designing and reaching all ages etc in a way that was authentic. He was not my favorite designer but I always thought he was smart in that way.

The fashion houses are scaling like tech companies now. Clothes, make up, trinkets etc. that sell, but rarely mean anything. What we are seeing now is they are diluting brands and compromising the art direction and vision so much that some people aren’t buying into it anymore. There is no tribe or vision to connect to. Versace i think is the biggest example of this.

The most radical thing a house could do today isn’t expansion, it’s restraint. Ie. If that rumor is true about givenchy stopping their menswear operation. To say no. To protect the integrity of a singular point of view in a world obsessed with more. We don’t need more stores and more collections, cafes, spas
Thank you for saying this, I totally agree.

I find a cafe or a hotel inside a boutique the cheapest thing!! I hate to go to a luxury store and see people accepting beverages in very simple transactions. It’s like, girl, you are zero elegant. Drinking a cup of Champaign in a counter while you decide which Lady Dior you are gonna take is not the peak of luxury you think it is. Only cheap people do that, sorry.

If you are a very important client and you have a close relationship with your SA, it’s okay to take one in the VIP room, but if not? Pure cheapness.

I also agree about the growing thing. I believe more is not better. But… can a brand sustain the hype during several years even if they don’t burn the brand like they are doing at the moment? Can MiuMiu be relevant in 2028 after all these years of logos and cheap merchandise?

I feel that people don’t even want that anymore… they want change. It’s like with partners. People get bored easily. And I’m simply a voyeur, but I feel they just want short cute stories and they leave everything behind once it’s boring because there are so many options out there … maybe it’s not even brands fault but human nature’s fault?

I don’t even know…
 
Thank you for saying this, I totally agree.

I find a cafe or a hotel inside a boutique the cheapest thing!! I hate to go to a luxury store and see people accepting beverages in very simple transactions. It’s like, girl, you are zero elegant. Drinking a cup of Champaign in a counter while you decide which Lady Dior you are gonna take is not the peak of luxury you think it is. Only cheap people do that, sorry.

If you are a very important client and you have a close relationship with your SA, it’s okay to take one in the VIP room, but if not? Pure cheapness.

I also agree about the growing thing. I believe more is not better. But… can a brand sustain the hype during several years even if they don’t burn the brand like they are doing at the moment? Can MiuMiu be relevant in 2028 after all these years of logos and cheap merchandise?

I feel that people don’t even want that anymore… they want change. It’s like with partners. People get bored easily. And I’m simply a voyeur, but I feel they just want short cute stories and they leave everything behind once it’s boring because there are so many options out there … maybe it’s not even brands fault but human nature’s fault?

I don’t even know…
especial to have luxury logos on plates paper cups paper napkins worst of all food its cringe and cheap as hell even mcdonald's stops at logoing its food lol.
 
The latest bag release does not look good at all, looks like a Gucci's design reject...also too much going on for a regular Valentino customer:
- Matte and glossy leather patchwork
- Aged gold hardwear paired with the silver palladium of the strap studs
- The tacky enamel embellished heads holding the gold chain

This will not become the new Book Tote or the new Rockstud. Try again Lallo.
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The latest bag release does not look good at all, looks like a Gucci's design reject...also too much going on for a regular Valentino customer:
- Matte and glossy leather patchwork
- Aged gold hardwear paired with the silver palladium of the strap studs
- The tacky enamel embellished heads holding the gold chain

This will not become the new Book Tote or the new Rockstud. Try again Lallo.
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the valentino scraps (of leather) bag
 
I’m really tired of brands having their bags look like 80’s Chanel bags.
At a time when you want customers back, stand out! There are archives at Valentino. Or maybe he doesn’t want to revisit bags designed by PPP and MGC (pre-taking over).

Why would someone pay for a new-vintage Chanel looking Valentino bag when they can get a real Vintage Chanel for the same or lower price? Or go with YSL where they are also obsessed with 80’s Chanel.
 
My goodness the bags are terrible! I just had a look on their website for the current offering and I was shocked at how bad it was. Polene has a stronger and more luxurious offering than Valentino does at the moment!

Don't get me started on the shoes. They just sent out comms today on signing up to the "drop" of Vans x Valentino on September the 12th. Just when you think it couldn't get worse, you see Vans x Valentino LMAO. Talk about cheap!


COMPLEX STYLE
 
My goodness the bags are terrible! I just had a look on their website for the current offering and I was shocked at how bad it was. Polene has a stronger and more luxurious offering than Valentino does at the moment!

Don't get me started on the shoes. They just sent out comms today on signing up to the "drop" of Vans x Valentino on September the 12th. Just when you think it couldn't get worse, you see Vans x Valentino LMAO. Talk about cheap!


COMPLEX STYLE

Vanslentino!! :rofl: :rofl:
 
It would be a bit weird in hindsight of Pierpaolo‘s departure, but maybe they should just have Maria Grazia return to Valentino if she so desires to return to Rome. Under the Valentino frame work and particularly after the desastrous Alessandro Michele misstep, her work would be met with good will - Maybe a little sabbatical and the prospect of less shows than Dior would give her back a little ambition designing the collections.

I‘m starting to think that the sheer volume of collections issued by juggernaut brands like Chanel, Dior or Gucci are leading to an expected distress for most creatives - Too many shows, too much fabricated image making and therewith other obligations than 'just' to design. Raf Simons quit Dior for those reasons (Both Calvin Klein and Prada are smaller obligations than Dior.
 
The fortunate take away from Michele's fiasko at Valentino is that not all designers who have proven to be a one time commercial success are fit to repeat the same thing at another brand. In Michele‘s case, the timing for a come back was too short, as his Gucci products were distributed too widely and most people are still clearing their closets from his fashion - The effect of Rider‘s appointment at Celine that‘s brought back interest in #oldceline bags has simply not happened with Michele‘s Gucci.
 

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