Boho is out, Beatnik is back

GCc said:
or is it me or is kate moss already dressing like this

Kate Moss went through a Edie Sedgewick phase way before this new trend, in 2001 IRRC. She even cut her hair like her.
 
I love Kerouac, William Borroughs, Charles Bukowski...and the beatnik style:p
 
From amandapeetonline...this site hasnt' updated in a while, are there any good Peet sites out there?

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kent said:
I really like beatnik, but it hasn't been more than a couple of months since i started wearing it.. :blush: But i still do not want it to become mainstream because now i think beatnik is "my true style" :innocent:

I do have a question though:
What is the difference between mod and beatnik?

beatniks were artists. and like most styles it was then adopted by fashion people. like the article on edie sedgewick in vogue which talked about the "youthquakers". beatniks were known for their cafe goings and poetry readings and striped shirts and slimness and drug taking and drinking. there was a french influence too- the berets and that general look... they included people like burroughs, kerouac, paul bowles etc. who didn't necessarily wear the look but they were part of the movement. and it was an intellectual movement. and a damn fine one.

mods i think (please correct me anyone if i am wrong with this stuff) originated more in the fashion world? and were more the opposite of hippies. beatniks and hippies sort of blended into eachother because beatniks came out of the 50s! they didn't start in the 60s. so the beatniks were the generation that led into the hippies. but they sort of became the same thing. and were all know as long-hairs too.

ok so mods were more plastic. and glam. and fashiony. mod is always an abbreviation for "modern" i think. so they were the anti-thesis of hippies but were also a backlash against 50s suburban nixon bullsh*t. and mod seems to have had an italian influence. you know the scooter thing and the italians did sci-fi style in the 60s especially well.

sorry for my rough and messy summary but that is the best i can do right now.
 
Vintage_Addict said:
beatniks were artists. and like most styles it was then adopted by fashion people. like the article on edie sedgewick in vogue which talked about the "youthquakers". beatniks were known for their cafe goings and poetry readings and striped shirts and slimness and drug taking and drinking. there was a french influence too- the berets and that general look... they included people like burroughs, kerouac, paul bowles etc. who didn't necessarily wear the look but they were part of the movement. and it was an intellectual movement. and a damn fine one.

mods i think (please correct me anyone if i am wrong with this stuff) originated more in the fashion world? and were more the opposite of hippies. beatniks and hippies sort of blended into eachother because beatniks came out of the 50s! they didn't start in the 60s. so the beatniks were the generation that led into the hippies. but they sort of became the same thing. and were all know as long-hairs too.

ok so mods were more plastic. and glam. and fashiony. mod is always an abbreviation for "modern" i think. so they were the anti-thesis of hippies but were also a backlash against 50s suburban nixon bullsh*t. and mod seems to have had an italian influence. you know the scooter thing and the italians did sci-fi style in the 60s especially well.

sorry for my rough and messy summary but that is the best i can do right now.

Very good summary.
 
Now I must admit I couldn't be bothered to read through the whole thread as it's late and I really should get to bed buuut.. Thank you for this thread! I never really felt right in the whole boho thing and have been looking for something to call my style and I thiiink this can be it.. "beatnik".. not really sure though.. But it kind of still has alittle bit of the boho edgyness to it altough it's in some ways more sexy, darker and "cleaner".. ? Would that be correct? In some ways alittle boho with alot of "b*tch" to it.. haha.. :lol: :p
 
source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/main.jhtml?xml=/fashion/2005/09/09/fbeat09.xml

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Forget the folk look - back the Beatnik beat
(Filed: 09/09/2005)

The black-and-white look was pioneered in the Sixties, but, as Clare Coulson explains, its utterly ageless chic is still as appealing as ever



It's surprising that the folk trend took off so successfully this summer. All those delicate broderie anglaise camisoles, tiered floor-length skirts and hippy accoutrements are not the easiest, nor the most flattering, clothes to wear.

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Mod mania: Beatnik style is back in fashion

This autumn's Beatnik style couldn't be in greater contrast: clean, severe and pared down, it provides the about-turn we desperately need. Monochrome is also a much more palatable alternative to the heavy, all-black looks that dominated so many autumn collections.

John Galliano kicked off the Beatnik trend with his summer couture collection for Christian Dior, and pursued the theme with his ready-to-wear, inspired by Warhol's muse, Edie Sedgwick. He calmed his usual frenetic, jumbled aesthetic using the starkly modern silhouettes of the Sixties.

There were black and white striped mohair sweater-dresses, black wool cropped jackets and chic pea coats, all worn with knee-high black boots, black caps, sunglasses and poker-straight hair.

Karl Lagerfeld has also picked up on the palette-cleansing effects of black and white, with Sixties-inspired wool shifts (with a luxurious Chanel spin, of course) and androgynous monochromatic looks, such as a stiff, white, masculine shirt and oversized black blazer worn with a black mini-skirt and over-the-knee boots. Stella McCartney, meanwhile, cut dogtooth check into neat Mod coats and dresses.

When this look is broken down, there are plenty of very wearable elements. A striped top or sweater (Petit Bateau has the best) and a pair of skinny drainpipes (or, less scarily, black cigarette pants) is an ageless pairing that looks good on pretty much anyone - think of Jean Seberg sporting this gamine guise in À bout de souffle.

A Beatnik-style cap, with a slick of black eyeliner and mascara, is also surprisingly ageless. The Mod sweater-dresses, designed to be worn simply over tights, look just as good with very fitted jeans.

Black ballet slippers are also a very gamine Mod accessory - Kurt Geiger's new range of patent slippers comes in brilliant bold colours, as well as black and white, and they look glossier and more modern than the regular leather versions.

The good thing about this trend is that you don't need to trot around town looking like a latter-day Edie Sedgwick, dripping in kohl and peering out from under a big black cap.

The key element to take from the Mod revival is the brilliant combination of black and white, which can often be the chicest mix of colours - or rather non-colours. A crisp, white shirt with a pair of well-cut black trousers is simple, classic and utterly ageless. In fashion, that is a precious rarity.

images from above mentioned source

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Padded tweed coat, 48-52,£380, Designworks, W1; 020 7434 1968. Cotton shirt, s-xxl, £90; Limited Edition rip 'n' repair jeans, 28-38 waist, 32-34 leg, £195, Replay, as before. Velcro trainers, £99.50, Russell & Bromley branches; 020 7629 6903


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Black/cream dogtooth, V-neck jumper with bow, 1-4, £70, Ted Baker, WC2; 020 7255 4800. Black skinny jeans, 8-16, £19.99, H&M, as before. Large tortoiseshell sunglasses, £230, Oliver Goldsmith; 0870 754 1898. Black baker-boy cap, £89, Lock & Co, St James's Street, SW1; 020 7930 8874


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Black angora roll-neck dress with string tie waist, 4-18, £38, Gap, Oxford Street, W1; 0800 427 789. Small cream acrylic bangle, £58, thicker bangle, £69, both Little Women at EC One, as before. Black opaque tights, £20, Fogal; black leather bag with chain straps, £139, Francesco Biasia, both at Fenwick, Bond St, W1; 020 7629 9161


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Black/white stripe angora roll-neck sweater, 6-16, £38, Topshop, as before. Black skinny drainpipe jeans with buttons at ankle, 8-16, £19.99, H&M, Oxford Circus, W1; 020 7323 2211. Flat black slouchy leather boots, £89.99, Office, 0845 058 0777. Fine cream acrylic bangle, £58, wide bangle, £69, both Little Women, at EC One, EC1; 020 7713 6185


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Black mini-mod dress, sizes 6-16, £35, Topshop, London W1; 0845 121 4519. Snow-quartz bobble-bead necklace, £95; black bobble-bead bracelet, £50, both Lola Rose at Harvey Nichols, Knightsbridge, SW1; 020 7235 5000. Black/white tartan-check tights, 1-3, £10.99, Hudson, at Mytights.com
 
source: http://www.vam.ac.uk/vastatic/microsites/1211_sixties/ysl_beatnik_page.htm

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Fashion beatnik outfit
Designed by Yves Saint Laurent for Dior, Paris, Autumn/Winter 1963-64

Saint Laurent was fascinated by the beatnik culture of Left Bank intellectuals. Associated with the Existentialists of the 1940s and 1950s, they typically wore polo necks, slacks and leather jackets in moody black. Saint Laurent's first collection for Dior in 1960 featured similar outfits. He called it 'the first important definition of my style'.
This jacket and balaclava are made of black cire. Underneath is a studded suede tunic. Saint Laurent selected this outfit from his private museum in Paris to lend to the Streetstyle Exhibition, held at the V&A in 1994.
 
source: http://www.howtolookgood.com/catsect_4.html

Beatnik

In the winter collections many designers looked to the 1960’s fashion era for inspiration. There was much diversity in this theme, from the hybrid military Sergeant Pepper looks we have already seen, to the sharply tailored voluminous designs, re born from the 60’s archives of [visionary] designers like Balenciaga and Courreges. The 60’s beat look was also prominent in shows from Hermes and Burberry to Paul Smith and Miu Miu. Many designers went on to site 1960’s fashion icons like Jean Shrimpton and Edie Sedgewick as inspiration.


At Miu Miu the beat look was dark and sophisticated. Think of sixties Parisian left bank students who wrote poetry and smoked Gitanes, and you’ll get a feel for this girlish, gamine look. Baggy jumpers were reined in with patent belts and knee length skirts were slim.

In contrast to winter’s full knee skirts, expect slimmer more pencil or tulip like shapes to be popular – worn (as above) with jumpers and belts or with minimal belted wool capes -this will be a big part of the 1960’s fashion look.

For extra Parisian flavour knitted berets topped the look. Note also the black patent shoes- these are big accessories for autumn.

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Miuccia Prada may have looked to Paris for her 1960’s fashion style, but surely there’s no better place to revive the swinging 60’s than in London and Burberrys Christopher Bailey showed the world that indeed the Brits do it best. Post performance he sited London and Marianne Faithfull as inspirational pointers for an irresistible but solidly commercial collection that will export the Best of British classics to the world.
Printed fluid skirts and military brass buttoned jackets mingled with skinny scarves and 8 piece caps. There were also beautiful Ossie Clarke style dresses, tweed and plaid trousers, tank tops, winter shorts and velvet blazers. All gently modernised classics.


At Dior in Paris, the vibe was sixties mod. This had its best moments in his monochrome stripy mohair jumper dresses. These were labelled Sedgewick stripes by the press who are referring to Edie Sedgewick: Andy Warhol’s muse, who due to a recent film in the making about her life, has been popularly revived as an icon.
Again 8 piece caps were a styling cue for this story and flat boots and fish -nets made this look more ‘rock’.


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At home grown Stella McCartney, there were many references to early 1960’s fashion couture. In particular the carefully constructed balloon sleeves and bubble skirts that paid homage to sixties designer Cristobel Balenciaga.

Again the message was monochromatic. This two-tone, hounds-tooth bubble coat with bracelet sleeves was beautifully cut and illustrates the simplistic restrained mood of many designers this season.
 
This is off-topic, but whenever i hear beatnik i always seem to think of the simpsons episode where Bart gets a fake id which he uses to see an r-rated movie with his friends. They end up seeing "Naked Lunch", the movie based on the William S. Burroughs novel of the same name. When they leave the theater, Nelson walks up to the marquee and says: I can think of at least two things wrong with that title.:lol: It always cracks me up.
 
the whole beatnik trend sounds very intriging. mod i think, is just so futuristic and i hope that people dont adopt the trend just to fit in.
 
The 'emo' (for lack of better description) pseudo-fashion kids ("I'm so unique and untouchable. I look just like my friends!") have been doing almost a variation of this for a while. All clones of each other with rat-bitten skunk mullets and tight tight jeans. Guys and girls.
I love my tsubi skinnies that I've worn to death since '03 :blush: (seriously, they are dying :( ) but I'm on the lookout for something fresh...
Love stripes and mod, the whole factory era, Edie, Jean etc:heart: Black and white! I'm hoping this area doesn't become inundated with desperate Warhol-wishers.
 
DosViolines said:
This is off-topic, but whenever i hear beatnik i always seem to think of the simpsons episode where Bart gets a fake id which he uses to see an r-rated movie with his friends. They end up seeing "Naked Lunch", the movie based on the William S. Burroughs novel of the same name. When they leave the theater, Nelson walks up to the marquee and says: I can think of at least two things wrong with that title.:lol: It always cracks me up.

:lol: :lol: Go the Simpsons! I actually always think about Ned Flanders parents: "We can't dicsipline him maaaaaaan" :rofl:
And when he calls his parents "Lousy Beatniks" lol
 
interesting how s/s 06 has more minimalism than last season...and how beatnik has emerged as the new "in" style...both much simpler than the past few seasons have been.
 
I'd be really sad the "beatnik" look became mass produced. I've been wearing this style for years...kind of a ladylike beatnik--black trench, hair down or in a pony with a baret, that sort of thing...I don't want every jane to be wearing what I've been wearing for years:o
 
I wouldn't even say its just beanick that'll be the trend. I think it's just 60's period. Early to mid 60's. Its gonna be beatnick for fall but even for spring collections I'm still seeing an early 60's look.

The pendulum is just swinging and yes boho is dying (thank God) so its just oppostie of everything we've been seeing. Basic colors, lots of black, higher waist lines, 3/4 lengths, a line, simplicity and structure. I'm gonna enjoy cause thats how I've been dressing for a while. I just see this as a time to stock up.
 
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