Burberry Prorsum Mens F/W 06.07 Milan

[Zazie]

I think the market will react slowly to the new. I'm really in the minority here in liking the new look, so I'm probably not a good guage of the market. But I have a haunch that men will welcome this new streamlined approach, not too flashy, kitschy, fussy, and slightly futuristic. Of course one should go with what the he/she is, if you're, say, a glam rocker at heart, skinny and curly locks will always be you, and you should proudly wear it on your sleeves, and it'll somehow "fit" you. My SO is very style-conscious and sarcastic, he's a designer, so he likes to look different from the prevailing trend, especially when it's hit the masses, so his look is "contrarian".

But the only designer for men so far who has struck me with a breath of fresh air is Raf Simons, and I find myself turned off by Burberry this season, even though I liked his James Bond-ish collection last fall.

 

[battles]

Also with regards to razor sharp tailoring, I don´t think it´ll become a mainstream thing that everybody will be wearing, simply because you have to have the body to fit the clothes... it´s the same for superskinny jeans, you can only wear them if you are skinny by nature... everybody else has to stick to 501´s style slim pants...

yes, i know what you mean, tricot and i agree you'd need to have the body, especially the trousers. i have two or three burberry prorsum shirt and pulls which indeed i like the fitting, but never it seemed that i could pull off any of the trousers well. the problem being is the slim silhouette that bares out my skinny legs and they don't seem to be that flattering. raf simons skinnies, on the other hand, work well with me and i wear them now and then.

 

[Zazie]

heh...in the cities in Europe and Asia where I travel and live, *everybody* is skinny....

 

[haruki]

Do you people really like this stuff? There is nothing smart or special about it as far as I can tell. In this recent round of collections only Mr. Raf Simons seems interested in trying something new out. If you aren't going to change things or make some sort of statement in a collection, why bother?

 

[Zazie]

Do you people really like this stuff? There is nothing smart or special about it as far as I can tell. In this recent round of collections only Mr. Raf Simons seems interested in trying something new out. If you aren't going to change things or make some sort of statement in a collection, why bother?

Exactly my thoughts, haruki.

 

[faust]

Do you people really like this stuff? There is nothing smart or special about it as far as I can tell. In this recent round of collections only Mr. Raf Simons seems interested in trying something new out. If you aren't going to change things or make some sort of statement in a collection, why bother?

In case you forgot, the first and foremost purpose of fashion is making beautiful, quality garments.

 

[Arturo21]

Do you people really like this stuff? There is nothing smart or special about it as far as I can tell. In this recent round of collections only Mr. Raf Simons seems interested in trying something new out. If you aren't going to change things or make some sort of statement in a collection, why bother?

If every designer did this, with every collection - over so much time that's passed since fashion started (meaning - since mankind started wearing clothes and designers started designing clothing), do you know how utterly bizarre we would all look by now? Only for originality's sake. Designers only create their own interpretations of classic items (the shirt, the pants, the shoes - they've been around), sometimes creating new, unheard of forms...but that's rather rare, I think - I haven't seen a collection without shirts and pants so far.

 

[raijin]

There is no way around using "shirts" and "pants", They are only terms to define a length of fabric covering a certain area of the body, it could be in any form. Altieri disregards most aspects of modern tailoring and classic forms completely in his purest work. I get the sense that you are talking about the traditional tailored forms of these items that have become classic through time, not the concept of the "shirt", "shoes," etc.

That being said though, I don't see anything wrong with this collection.. and agree with Faust.

 

[Deleted member 7575]

Sometimes you don't need to reinvent the wheel. Well made and thoughtful clothes can hit the spot.

 

[5AvenueMarceau]

In case you forgot, the first and foremost purpose of fashion is making beautiful, quality garments.

I agree completely, although I do also see this as an opinion and can see how other people might have the opinion that innovation is the purpose of fashion, rather than beauty, or that perhaps innovation is mostly paramount to beauty.
In fact, I'd go one step further and say that to me, fashion is about choice and that both innovation and the production of beautiful garments help achieve this. I think that choice and all the differences of opinions it comes with should be celebrated or, at least, appreciated. Thats why I don't like the idea of trends or the idea that everything should either be about what the majority is buying or a few indie elite are buying. Both opinions matter, both are opinions are interesting. Do you agree Zazie?
I would go doolally over any man in that houndstooth check (hehe ok maybe not any man), does that mean I'm wrong? Or that I have bad taste?

 

[Arturo21]

There is no way around using "shirts" and "pants", They are only terms to define a length of fabric covering a certain area of the body, it could be in any form. Altieri disregards most aspects of modern tailoring and classic forms completely in his purest work. I get the sense that you are talking about the traditional tailored forms of these items that have become classic through time, not the concept of the "shirt", "shoes," etc.

That being said though, I don't see anything wrong with this collection.. and agree with Faust.

I think you misunderstood my post..

Basically, I sort of said what Faust and the others said... like Mutterlein stated - you don't have to reinvent the wheel, that's basically what I'm saying.

I was pleasantly surprised with this collection, rather nice from Burberry

 

[AlexN]

Any guy in that houndstooth trench looks absolutely ridiculous to women.

I doubt the female gender has made you their spokesperson. What's with the ridiculous generalizations in this thread? Some other woman said that all guys wearing skinny pants are gay. Every guy I know who wears them is straight.

 

[Baizilla]

^ haha someone actually said that?

ignorance is amusing

 

[AlexN]

In this recent round of collections only Mr. Raf Simons seems interested in trying something new out.

I could dress people in toilets; that would be new. It would also be pointless because it looks ridiculous.

 

[nqth]

I never like Burberry, accepting the fact that they make "nothing new just right clothes". Neither I like this coll.

It's bc of the hight and tight waist of the suits, and then the jkt is long below the waist, it gives you big butt:-D Very middle age bussiness man look. It might look good on taller ppl, tho.

 

[Morningstar]

As a designer I appreciate the development of a silhoutte. It's ridiculous to imagine comming up with a new flavor every season. You'll end up alienating a great deal of people. In addition, somethings need to be developed and doing something for a season doesn't leave much room for development. I think this is one of the reason why fast fashion like H&M has taken off. People have no reason to be confident in buying something more expensive and highier quality when it's only being marketed as a seasonal trend.

That review that was posted was quite amusing, but offensive at the sametime (probably why I find it amusing). I wear a wallet chain and skinny pants, but happen to be hetrosexual. I would like to imagine in an artistic and expressive field like fashion that we are beyond generalization and stereotyping based on the clothes a person wears. There are obvious times when the clothing people wear are worn to indicate something about them, but I fail to see the relationship between wallet chains and homosexuality.

I think that this skinny silhoutte is still quite fresh. I think with all the media we're flooded now people find themselves jaded quite quickly. Like others have said, we men have spent so much time in large, ill fitting and unflattering clothes. Even in NYC I still think you only find the most fashionable of fashionable men willing to embrace the slimmer skinny look. I can't speak for Europe, but I know in America the skinny look is far from hitting the mainstream yet, especially considering the size of the typical American man. Maybe if it does become mainstream we'll see a change in the dietary habits of Americans?

 

[Arturo21]

I could dress people in toilets; that would be new. It would also be pointless because it looks ridiculous.

yes, but it's new in a good way. He's not dressing people in toilets, he's dressing people in box cuts. Rather unnattractive, I agree - but I'm expecting the pieces to be beautiful up close. I trust Raf..

About this collection - it's not that great, it's not amazing - but for Burberry, it is indeed great. It's not what I expected from Mr. Bailey, and the element of surprise is always pleasant.

 

[haruki]

In case you forgot, the first and foremost purpose of fashion is making beautiful, quality garments.

It sounds like you are describing nice clothing to me. Isn't fashion, historically and currently, more about leaders and followers than just nice clothing?

 

[PrinceOfCats]

It sounds like you are describing nice clothing to me. Isn't fashion, historically and currently, more about leaders and followers than just nice clothing?

No.

abc...123!

 

[AlexN]

He's not dressing people in toilets, he's dressing people in box cuts.

Same thing. Toilets are rather boxy, aren't they? And most are made of strong materials...probably stronger than those used by Raf.



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