Chris Brown arrested and sentenced for domestic violence

[fashionista-ta]

^ Terrence needs a baby wipe for his brain ...

I don't know what the laws are, and of course they vary. But the penalties & the actual results seem shockingly low to me in specific cases I've heard about. (I won't even mention OJ.) And the cops often have the attitude that oh, this is private business and we should stay out of it. One of my neighbors was having an incident with his ex wife on his front lawn and I called the cops. It was relatively minor, but the point is, that's when you catch it. The cop called me back ... by the time he got there nothing was happening on the street & he wanted me to tell him he could just go on. I told him no, I want you to talk to him & tell him this is unacceptable. Boy did he not want to do it ... I'll say this, it's been years now & it's never happened again.

As far as I'm concerned, domestic violence is a hate crime against women. If we started to treat it like that, I think we'd start to see some changes.

I agree that our prison system is terrible. But what some people don't seem to be getting is that he came very close to killing her. I'm all for prison reform, but I don't think we should send would-be murderers home with a slap on the back until we get it all nice and cozy for them.

I have never known anyone to be banned from tFS for ignorance I'd prefer to think that we have classier members here than Facebook does

 

[saka]

Fans react


http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/340495/chris-brown-and-rihanna-8212-fans-react.jhtml

(mtv.com)

 

[Bahiyya]

Zposen, I don't believe you think the justice system is necessary because a few posts ago you wanted Rihanna to drop charges. Anyone who thinks that a possible crime should not be investigated obviously thinks its disposable.

Maybe I'm a heartless b***h but I'm not going to pretend I want anything more for Chris than justice served. I'm not going to waste too much concern wondering what kind of jail he'll be sent to when I know that I'll read about another case tomorrow and not blink an eye about someone else in the same situation who doesn't have the advantages of a high-powered lawyer and celebrity status. We seem content as members of society to let the other nobodies go through the flawed legal system. (Which I never said was perfect, btw, so that won't work.) I'm not gonna get worked up about Chris unless I plan to get worked up about everyone in a similar situation.

Chris can go and serve time in jail acquired TB or something more lethal... hang out with actual criminals that have failed all attempts at rehabilitation... he will only become more violent with a permanent disdain for life...

I do feel for Rihanna and I am a bigger fan of hers than I was ever of Chris Brown. Her superficial wounds will heal in time and with some counseling and love the deeper ones will eventually heal too...

Chris should be punish... maybe have him serve time in an abuse clinic for a long period of time in addition to his counseling... but as bad as it sounds I don't find his actions (that were indeed brutal-- if all the stories are true) mandates jail time or denying him of a fufilling career.

Lets not make this boy another OJ Simpson...

Look, your melodramatic, hair-raising vision of the terrible monster Chris will become IF he ever sees inside a jail cell aside...what is the alternative you suggest? Sending him home to Mummy is a worse idea, I don't care how many counseling sessions and clinic visits you attach to it. You've already stated that the family is what screwed him up in the first place. We've seen how effective rehab has been for celebrities in the past, how much they get away with. I'm not going to pretend the justice system is perfect but it is what we have and therefore it should deal with Chris the way it would deal with any other person. If one wants to see improvements made to the justice system then one should work on advocating for those changes not argue for letting possible crimes go unpunished, enabling criminals, and endangering the lives of those close to them based on what might happen if we bothered to make them accountable for their actions. Edit: Yes, fashionista-ta, exactly. I can't roll with that.

Anyway, that bit about "denying him a full career" is why I can't take you seriously, Z. If you don't believe that if the worst stories about him are true -- which includes chocking the girl until she passed out and previous dangerous altercations --- he doesn't, at minimum, deserve to lose his lucrative career based on marketing himself as a teeny bopper sweetheart...you're a crazy Chris Brown groupie in the closet . Because that's just crazy-talk! Don't make no sense, I don't care how many places you travelled. Heck, I've been to as many places.

 

[saka]

(Mtv.com)

Someone who is all too familiar with having a domestic dispute plastered across the headlines is Lionel Richie, whose ugly confrontations with his now-ex-wife Brenda ultimately resulted in her arrest in 1988. Richie advised both Brown and Rihanna to not run away from what happened.
"You'll go through adversity," he offered. "You're gonna have it. You're gonna have difficulty. Stand up, face it. Look right in the camera, say, 'Yes, I did it,' then back out of it. Keep going. That's all you can do. Because now, there's no more secrets. You can't hide anything anymore.
"You can't get away now," he continued, analyzing how much the media has changed over the past two decades. "It took a minute ... when you could practice your integrity thing, you could practice your mistakes, before the world even heard about it. Now, whatever mistake you make, it's out there. It's a different kind of vibe. I wouldn't want to deal with it right now, not learning the business and life at the same time with that thing [camera] pointing at you every five minutes. All I can say is it's here, it's now, deal with it."

Ashanti, whose critically acclaimed song "Rain on Me" dealt with domestic violence, said "I definitely wish them the best. There's a lot of things that's alleged. Nobody knows what going on. They're young. I hope everything's all right for the both of them."

 

[fashionista-ta]

Chris should be punish... maybe have him serve time in an abuse clinic for a long period of time in addition to his counseling... but as bad as it sounds I don't find his actions (that were indeed brutal-- if all the stories are true) mandates jail time or denying him of a fufilling career.

Lets not make this boy another OJ Simpson...

So I guess you think that no one who hasn't actually succeeded in killing someone yet should be behind bars?

It seems pretty clear to me that having to suffer the consequences of his poor choices is one ingredient that did not going into the making of OJ Simpson ... so I fail to see the connection. Letting someone skate through life until they actually do commit murder (well, he got to skate then too ... but we do draw the line at getting all pissy about sports memorabilia) seems to me to be exactly OJ's story

 

[eternitygoddess]

Edit: Soulja Boy just posted on his site: “I hope everything works out with my homeboy Chris.. I was just with him the night before the incident talking about his new album and just kickin it. I hope everything works out for the best! Chris hold it down homie, you know how the media gets!!”

It pisses me off to read stuff like that ! "you know how the media gets" ... Are effin with me??

Soulja Boy's hit song was called "Superman that Ho."

Enough said.

 

[Juliet]

Ashanti, whose critically acclaimed song "Rain on Me" dealt with domestic violence, said "I definitely wish them the best. There's a lot of things that's alleged. Nobody knows what going on. They're young. I hope everything's all right for the both of them."

Ah there we go , the first statement from a woman, and as someone predicted, "diplomatic" and not really supporting Rihanna. Eek.. how disappointing..

 

[eternitygoddess]

The rap&hip-hop industry isn't exactly well known for supporting women's rights.

Take a look at handful of rap songs and it's common to see that the lyrics all deal in some ways with treating women like sex objects.

Which is why it'll be interesting and important to see how the the industry will approach this situation. So far, most who have spoken out have been supportive of Chris Brown.

 

[Boluda]

urgh. all these black men standing up for their "brotha". totally sickening.

 

[Harumi]

^disgusting indeed. They are all perpetrating the worst and most damaging cultural cliches about African-Americans.

Change you can believe in, uh?

 

[Ricketish]

Soulja Boy's hit song was called "Superman that Ho."

Enough said.

actually called "crank that"

 

[Working Girl]

urgh. all these black men standing up for their "brotha". totally sickening.

All black men? Where? I only heard three men comment so far.

 

[Libra Skye18]

Ah there we go , the first statement from a woman, and as someone predicted, "diplomatic" and not really supporting Rihanna. Eek.. how disappointing..

I disagree. Ashanti's statement is spot on and she's supporting both young stars during this trying time. Ashanti has spoken out about domestic violence (amongst other situations) for years so when all the facts come out maybe her statement will change. However as far as I'm concerned I don't see anything wrong with what she said considering Chris & Rihanna both need help pertaining to the situation they are currently in.

 

[LUXXX]

^ Terrence needs a baby wipe for his brain ...

OMG...

 

[fashionista-ta]

I wouldn't call what Lionel Richie said supportive of Chris Brown ... more like "Get real." It'll be quite interesting to see what Jay-Z does. I predict Rihanna on Oprah. I would love to see Jay-Z let loose about this.

 

[LUXXX]

Jay-Z has power, so I have no doubt that if he wants Chris Brown's career to end, it will end. He doesn't have to say a word. I think TI retracting his earlier statement of support for Chris had something to do with not wanting to piss off Jay.

 

[fashionista-ta]

^ That is a comforting thought.

I didn't know about a retraction?

 

[LUXXX]

T.I. retracted his statement -- "I told him, 'This too shall pass.' We're celebrities, we're entertainers, but we're still human — all of us," he said. "Don't expect us not to make mistakes, because we will." -- to the smarter, more neutral: "I made the mistake of commenting before understanding the situation," the statement read. "I myself am no stranger to media scrutiny. My only intention was to support both Rihanna and Chris during these times. My heart goes out to both of them.

http://hamptonroads.com/2009/02/you-said-what-about-chris-brown

 

[Libra Skye18]

Jay-Z has power, so I have no doubt that if he wants Chris Brown's career to end, it will end. He doesn't have to say a word. I think TI retracting his earlier statement of support for Chris had something to do with not wanting to piss off Jay.

Chris's career being over has nothing at all to do with Jay-Z and the power that he has but rather the fact that the majority of Chris's fan-base is females. He's an Pop/R&B star who had a somewhat squeaky clean image and with every passing moment him and or his people do not put out some type of statement either clearing his name or trying to make sense of what happened it looks worse and worse for him.

 

[polly]

I just watched that Terrence Howard video that was posted and it seemed so odd to me. Did he even know what happened? I mean...he must have I guess? But it seemed like he thought they had a breakup or something? I don't know...how can he make such a statement? About him being a good guy and Rhinna knows he loves her? Ugh.

I find it strange his camp hasn't released any kind of statement really....