Dario Vitale - Designer, Creative Director of Versace

[carla56]

She had various roles at brands like Prada and Sergio Rossi. I’m surprised she very openly allows herself to speak about the industry but I guess she no longer needs to kiss *** to have a c suit job in fashion so well done to her!!

Ok thank you very much! I thought she was another wannabe blue/green-square with a newsletter 🤣 glad to know!

 

[PDFSD]

Can I ask who this Susanna Nicoletti who I continue to see here is? She has 800followers, no one from the fashion world, she publishes pictures that could only be appreciated by Sabato and she judges things clearly knowing nothing from the inside... bah...

where on substak? or linkedin she is followed by industry people ...

regardless i read her as well and again she contributes to bloomberg etc also follower or not who cares its about sharing information and more points of view to have here more in depth discussions.

if you bring these info´s i would listen to you as well :-)

 

[proseccotabis]

Her tone sometimes annoys me but shes Milanese so that makes sense ha ha ... however i like to read her analysis because she very transparently and in detail explains things how they are in the fashion industry and doesn't just post things like 'OMG John Galliano is going to SKIMS!! ' a la Pisano, green square box etc

 

[PDFSD]

Her tone sometimes annoys me but shes Milanese so that makes sense ha ha ... however i like to read her analysis because she very transparently and in detail explains things how they are in the fashion industry and doesn't just post things like 'OMG John Galliano is going to SKIMS!! ' a la Pisano, green square box etc

i agree it's often in a annoying i told you so tone and not well written i agree 100000% but i notice this also with miss tweed etc the less well written the more truth/facts in the message.

these days blue square or even the green one is just like a summary of all public intel ...and i hate these oh we give hints before ...i feel or you write the scoop or gossip or intel for the sake of news or discussion or just stay silent if your a publication or journalist or commentator online with a following.

 

[proseccotabis]

i agree it's often in a annoying i told you so tone and not well written i agree 100000% but i notice this also with miss tweed etc the less well written the more truth/facts in the message.

these days blue square or even the green one is just like a summary of all public intel ...and i hate these oh we give hints before ...i feel or you write the scoop or gossip or intel for the sake of news or discussion or just stay silent if your a publication or journalist or commentator online with a following.

Exactly! and now the green square is "recruiting" other mini green squares so our frustration will multiply

 

[PDFSD]

Exactly! and now the green square is "recruiting" other mini green squares so our frustration will multiply

i feel its losing the plot already greensquare comments are as messy as late diet prada ...maybe hate and messy works well on ig ....

i find it did not cultivate authority before exercising it , just having people of industry following you out of curiosity or shade watching early on does not mean you're creating something long standing or of value.

time will tell.

 

[Xone]

Exactly! and now the green square is "recruiting" other mini green squares so our frustration will multiply

Yeah...that felt completely immature and ego inflated...the entitlement is palpable...own the responsibility of your account...

Someone mentioned Green Square identity was revealed but i dont know if that was true or not.

 

[proseccotabis]

Yeah...that felt completely immature and ego inflated...the entitlement is palpable...own the responsibility of your account...

Someone mentioned Green Square identity was revealed but i dont know if that was true or not.

They think they’re the messiah of fashion or something… laughable. People in the industry follow green square to literally laugh at him, not out of admiration
I’m really curious who’s behind this account just hoping it’s not someone who works in a brand and has a relatively high ranked job because that would be hilarious lol

 

[Xone]

They think they’re the messiah of fashion or something… laughable. People in the industry follow green square to literally laugh at him, not out of admiration
I’m really curious who’s behind this account just hoping it’s not someone who works in a brand and has a relatively high ranked job because that would be hilarious lol

I think maybe that's the case, that's why so much mistery...
Blue Square also have the entitlement
Both are laughable...

 

[carla56]

I was skeptical about Dario’s appointment because, coming from miu miu, I thought he wouldn’t match versace… but I’m hearing some feedback about his first requests and I think he could surprise us in a plesant way! I’m counting the days for his debut!!

 

[Xone]

feedback about his first requests

What do you mean? can you elaborate on that?

 

[Salvatore]

I was skeptical about Dario’s appointment because, coming from miu miu, I thought he wouldn’t match versace… but I’m hearing some feedback about his first requests and I think he could surprise us in a plesant way! I’m counting the days for his debut!!

After you gave us the heads up on his appointment, I trust you and now I am at least curious and maybe more open.

 

[carla56]

What do you mean? can you elaborate on that?

without saying too much so as not to come out to my sources (since they fired half the employees and there are very few left) ... at the moment he is making everyone do research on what could be the future of Versace, and the briefs seem very promising, you can tell he is a cultured person, respectful of the brand's past, very humble and enthusiastic. You can already tell that there will be big changes but without distorting and erasing what has been done by Gianni and Donatella. It is clear that it is just a brief, we need to see the result, but in my opinion it will not be a Sabato 2.0

 

[Salvatore]

without saying too much so as not to come out to my sources (since they fired half the employees and there are very few left) ... at the moment he is making everyone do research on what could be the future of Versace, and the briefs seem very promising, you can tell he is a cultured person, respectful of the brand's past, very humble and enthusiastic. You can already tell that there will be big changes but without distorting and erasing what has been done by Gianni and Donatella. It is clear that it is just a brief, we need to see the result, but in my opinion it will not be a Sabato 2.0

I hope that he brings back the knockout gowns and draping.

 

[oioioi]

without saying too much so as not to come out to my sources (since they fired half the employees and there are very few left) ... at the moment he is making everyone do research on what could be the future of Versace, and the briefs seem very promising, you can tell he is a cultured person, respectful of the brand's past, very humble and enthusiastic. You can already tell that there will be big changes but without distorting and erasing what has been done by Gianni and Donatella. It is clear that it is just a brief, we need to see the result, but in my opinion it will not be a Sabato 2.0

That's nice and democratic, but shouldn't he already be vaguely prepared with ideas, docs/research, and have considered what his POV will be? Almost every CD arrives like that and the team develops those concepts deeper.

 

[Xone]

without saying too much so as not to come out to my sources (since they fired half the employees and there are very few left) ... at the moment he is making everyone do research on what could be the future of Versace, and the briefs seem very promising, you can tell he is a cultured person, respectful of the brand's past, very humble and enthusiastic. You can already tell that there will be big changes but without distorting and erasing what has been done by Gianni and Donatella. It is clear that it is just a brief, we need to see the result, but in my opinion it will not be a Sabato 2.0

Grazie @carla56 sounds good and promising but of course in the end he will be judge for his outcome...

They fired people now? with his announcement? does it mean he brings his people?

 

[carla56]

Grazie @carla56 sounds good and promising but of course in the end he will be judge for his outcome...

They fired people now? with his announcement? does it mean he brings his people?

No they fired in order to sell the brand… they already fired about 50 people last summer when they had to be sold to Tapestry, then other 30 people now in march …

 

[Xone]

No they fired in order to sell the brand… they already fired about 50 people last summer when they had to be sold to Tapestry, then other 30 people now in march …

Wow, i didnt know that, that's a lot..thanks...

 

[PDFSD]

without saying too much so as not to come out to my sources (since they fired half the employees and there are very few left) ... at the moment he is making everyone do research on what could be the future of Versace, and the briefs seem very promising, you can tell he is a cultured person, respectful of the brand's past, very humble and enthusiastic. You can already tell that there will be big changes but without distorting and erasing what has been done by Gianni and Donatella. It is clear that it is just a brief, we need to see the result, but in my opinion it will not be a Sabato 2.0

thank you for sharing first of all...

just small balance in the enthusiasm :
:-)

Even if ancora boy did have a project with all the cool stuff in it, he had also briefed to the teams and it sounded all great and good start but then the result and process is mid because taste level is mid.

my worry is they do have a lot of things in common as the studio guy that gets along with everyone especially with the big bosses and that also how he could move in to the position he ended with at Miu Miu. because he was good in not out shining Fabio etc

both of them are actual the over all nice guy (shady or toxic level are nothing to mention ) but basic gay levels they both score higher, one can objectively come to the conclusion.

but lets see i am sceptical, i don't think it would be worse than ancora 2.0 but i am curious/sceptical if it will be amazing or even good !!

(for ref ancora for me was basic mid level taste / not enough for a big brand like gucci)

i would go so far to predict that like ancora acc will be the make and brake factors as well and he will be weak in this area ( even if versace has a stronger voice in RTW)

for miu miu people online for get that its recent success is backed by merch push and styling influence of lotta ...dario was there for years, even with the mid years of styling of katie grand.

and the acc team is a territory of bertelli leadership and interference and his merchandise teams and factory

miu miu is a dialogue of miuccia with who ever is the stylist foremost and the machine that follows behind its this means studio team as well.

allot of miu mu is styling of miuccia obsessions of a young girl in her mother & grandmother closets, i think versace has more difficult design dna to tackle and modernize and make coherent for 2025.