Dior Homme by Hedi Slimane (2000-2007)

[AlexN]

Although I believe that is an informal name. The collection didn't have a singular name so people took the title of the song played; Phoenix's "Victim of the Crime."

Ah, yes. You are correct.

 

[EdK]

where can you buy it online besides www.luisaviaroma.com www.yoox.com and www.eluxury.com

 

[softgrey]

Although I believe that is an informal name. The collection didn't have a singular name so people took the title of the song played; Phoenix's "Victim of the Crime."

thanks for the clarification...
i really need to check out phoenix...

 

[basilmus]

where can you buy it online besides www.luisaviaroma.com www.yoox.com and www.eluxury.com

www.ebay.com

 

[doo888]

where can you buy it online besides www.luisaviaroma.com www.yoox.com and www.eluxury.com

www.brownsfashion.com
www.bluefly.com
www.raffaello-network.com/raffties/
www.b-forza.com
http://esearch.rakuten.co.jp/rms/sd/esearch/vc?sv=2&sitem=dior+homme

 

[faust]

A valuable member of TFS with great knowledge of, and love for, Hedi's and especially Ann Dem's work.

Hello, I'm back.

Thanks, Alex.

I just went through the entire thread. I don't have much to add to what I've said previously, but for our new member basilmus I'll say a few words. I like Hedi's work, yes, but it also has been done before by the aforementioned (and my all time favorite) Ann Demeulemeester, and Raf Simons, and Hedi himself at YSL. The reason people are not looking at Ann and look at Dior is because Dior is part of LVMH - a huge conglomerate with a big advertising budget and big connections. Ann (like many other beligan designers), on contraire, never advertises - she lets the clothes speak instead. However, pick up any fashion forward magazine, such as i-D, and you are bound to see some Ann's clothes in the editorials. The point is, the discerning and knowledgable fashion conscious person will know. But, Dior is a good gateway into the world of men's fashion. It is something that many men have wanted, but did not know where to look for. For most people, things have to come to them, they do not wish to seek them out, or they simply don't have the opportunity to do so (think about it, Ann Demeulemeester has been doing menswear for close to 10 years now, yet you haven't heard of it). DH is in every magazine out there, and Karla only adds the fuel to the fire - so it becomes fashionable.

So, if you like Dior, definitely check out Ann's work. Also, Raf Simons, Alex McQueen, Rick Owens, Carol Christion Poell, Carpe Diem have very slim cuts - you might like those labels.

Acid, thanks for the offer, but I doubt they'll take me. I may not be skinny enough

 

[baklanyc]

If you like Slimane's overall look then I suggest going back to YSL Rive Gauche circa 2000-2001.

That eye tee-shirt is nothing compared to the blood wound shirt.

I loved that shirt, but even then, I was afraid of looking like a fashion victim wearing that. And true enough, the first person I saw wearing it received raised eyebrows from the group of designers and stylists I was with. Although that would look fabulous worn now, 4 years after the fact!

I have just one piece of Hedi's stuff from YSL and that's a pair of tuxedo pants, and he definitely didn't cut as tightly as he does now. His suits and jackets are cut so slim that I, who normally would wear a 48 or 46 in other brands, am forced to try on a 50 or 52 with Dior Homme. Frankly, I don't think DH looks good on me as I work out a bit; not much, but enough to interfere with the line of his clothing!

I think Hedi's a genius, though - he's revolutionized menswear the way no one has in recent decades. Individually his pieces may not be any more revolutionary than some other designers, but it's the totality of the vision that makes his label and image have the impact that it does on fashion. Just like Tom Ford did - I refused to buy any of his stuff because I didn't agree with his brand statement, but I definitely acknowledge his vision and the way he maintained a total design concept from start to finish.

 

[Incroyable]

I loved that shirt, but even then, I was afraid of looking like a fashion victim wearing that. And true enough, the first person I saw wearing it received raised eyebrows from the group of designers and stylists I was with. Although that would look fabulous worn now, 4 years after the fact!

I have just one piece of Hedi's stuff from YSL and that's a pair of tuxedo pants, and he definitely didn't cut as tightly as he does now. His suits and jackets are cut so slim that I, who normally would wear a 48 or 46 in other brands, am forced to try on a 50 or 52 with Dior Homme. Frankly, I don't think DH looks good on me as I work out a bit; not much, but enough to interfere with the line of his clothing!

I think Hedi's a genius, though - he's revolutionized menswear the way no one has in recent decades. Individually his pieces may not be any more revolutionary than some other designers, but it's the totality of the vision that makes his label and image have the impact that it does on fashion. Just like Tom Ford did - I refused to buy any of his stuff because I didn't agree with his brand statement, but I definitely acknowledge his vision and the way he maintained a total design concept from start to finish.

A literal victim?

Although wearing it with patent leather jodphurs, and riding boots wouldn;t be such an odd statement.

It's fashist.

I have found his YSL cuts to be rather slim as well. A size Large for a cardigan I own translates more as a 36.

 

[PrinceOfCats]

In Sweden they have something which roughly translates to 'Gestapo-chic'...

 

[softgrey]

I think Hedi's a genius, though - he's revolutionized menswear the way no one has in recent decades. Individually his pieces may not be any more revolutionary than some other designers, but it's the totality of the vision that makes his label and image have the impact that it does on fashion.

i do agree that the collection is styled and merchandised well...and that is the strength...

people don't necessarily want individual pieces...they want the whole 'look'...

 

[baklanyc]

A literal victim?

Quite so, hence the knowing irony!

I have found his YSL cuts to be rather slim as well. A size Large for a cardigan I own translates more as a 36.

Huh. I don't recall the knits but I guess I'm talking more about the suit jackets. I recall that I fit Hedi's old YSL 48s well, but with Dior, I'm lucky if I can fit a 50.

Of course, I may have worked out to a larger size nowadays, but I don't think so...

 

[Incroyable]

In Sweden they have something which roughly translates to 'Gestapo-chic'...

Like Charlotte Rampling in "The Night Porter"

Concentrate, darling.




I suppose having 26 inch waists aids in wearing Dior Homme.

 

[PrinceOfCats]

I suppose having 26 inch waists aids in wearing Dior Homme.

You'd think wouldn't you.

 

[Incroyable]

You'd think wouldn't you.

Quite.

Although I noted on one of the Dior model's statistics that he possesses a 25.5 waist.

I felt slightly envious for a moment there.

 

[PrinceOfCats]

Which model would this be?

 

[Incroyable]

Which model would this be?

Christofer at the third picture in the male models page.

http://www.awronow.com/

 

[PrinceOfCats]

With a 31" chest there's only 5.5" difference between his waist and chest. Hardly impressive

 

[EdK]

thats how it is for most average sized men.... were not bodybuilders who have 40 something inch chests and 30 inch waist..

With a 31" chest there's only 5.5" difference between his waist and chest. Hardly impressive

 

[PrinceOfCats]

Nor am I. I was just saying that his 25.5" waist is less impressive if you consider his chest measurement.

 

[doo888]

So, if you like Dior, definitely check out Ann's work. Also, Raf Simons, Alex McQueen, Rick Owens, Carol Christion Poell, Carpe Diem have very slim cuts - you might like those

In addition to Ann Demeulemeester i am also a fan of Dirk Schonberger and Xavier Delcour which i think would also be of interest to the Dior Homme 'persona'. Possibly Veronique Branquinho, too?

As for Christofer being 6'1" tall and having a 31" chest and 25.5" waist.. WTF? I'm 5'9" with a 34.5" chest, 27.5" waist and i wear a Dior Homme taille 46 or 44 now things are being cut larger. He must be a walking beanpole..?!!