Dries Van Noten Mens F/W 06.07 Paris

[Pastry]

i LOVE leopard!!!....

thank you! i don't know why everyone is attacking it...

the collection is still pretty bad in places.....

thought, i like a couple of cardigans and most of the button up shirts are wonderful!

 

[baklanyc]

I like this collection a lot. As a show, I think it and Raf and Jil Sander are all moving forward with the new volume and providing direction. I personally am finding it hard to process for me (to wear), but I like the newness and already feel like a bigger coat is the way to go. Looking at Kriss Van Assche's colelction, all the short jackets and slim pants look passe. I'll be happy to wear them now and until next fall, but really, the collections that look uncomfortably new are really getting us ready for the new silhouetes. I was ready for volume with Raf's collection last Fall and would have loved to try out the big pleated pants or the huge puffy coats, but as the season drew on and the items never made it to the racks, I was more than happy to skip them although the sense of moving towards volume stayed. mixing them with slim pants for now is definitely helping the transition.

I'm with soft and purechris on this. It's looking fresh. And the leopard is looking perfectly retro!

 

[softgrey]

totally agree on the volume thing bakla....
and i think a COAT is the way to do it...

*i never really could get past the cavaricci-ness of raf's giant pleated pants......
and i don't think i am the only one...

...

 

[purechris]

ahhhhh ZCavaricci.................

 

[baklanyc]

I agree....I think Leopard print...and I think like Old South Miami women. I don't really see it as hip and young at all either.

And others see Z.Cavaricci when they see big pleated pants. But one person's leopard is another's Z.Cavaricci!

I see these wide, almost dropped shoulder jackets in multiple collections throughout the season and I start feeling that Dynasty-sized shoulder pads may be making their way back in eventually, but it's been over 20 years and Fashion usually regurgitates things in 20 year cycles, so it's about time. There was a time when flared pants were too disgusting to consider, yet they'd ruled the fashion landscape for quite a while in recently past years. Everying old (and possibly disgusting) will become new and fresh again, especially to those who were too young to remember them...

 

[Pastry]

^ i'm enjoying the voluminous "wave" as much as you are guys, but truthfully...it is hard to pull off in reality. i'm a 'petite" guy, so even regular-fitting coats are hard to find, so leave alone these...

what i mean is....i still don't think shoulderpads are ripe for a comeback, what i like much better, is the boxy sloping cut...marni got me into that

maybe i'd wear it, if they made it a little less boxy..and with a raglan sleeve, or with a drop sleeve that fits and doesn't billow...

 

[softgrey]

And others see Z.Cavaricci when they see big pleated pants. But one person's leopard is another's Z.Cavaricci!

I see these wide, almost dropped shoulder jackets in multiple collections throughout the season and I start feeling that Dynasty-sized shoulder pads may be making their way back in eventually, but it's been over 20 years and Fashion usually regurgitates things in 20 year cycles, so it's about time. There was a time when flared pants were too disgusting to consider, yet they'd ruled the fashion landscape for quite a while in recently past years. Everying old (and possibly disgusting) will become new and fresh again, especially to those who were too young to remember them...

ain't it the truth......

a few of us have been doing the math...
so we're in 1986...
anybody wanna do an 'i love the 80's' thread...??? (a la VH1)
'i LOVE 1986'...
and post all the things we think will make their way back this year and next...
that could be fun...!!
and also educational for those who ARE too young to remember...

 

[baklanyc]

^ i'm enjoying the voluminous "wave" as much as you are guys, but truthfully...it is hard to pull off in reality. i'm a 'petite" guy, so even regular-fitting coats are hard to find, so leave alone these...

what i mean is....i still don't think shoulderpads are ripe for a comeback, what i like much better, is the boxy sloping cut...marni got me into that

maybe i'd wear it, if they made it a little less boxy..and with a raglan sleeve, or with a drop sleeve that fits and doesn't billow...

I know what you mean. I work out but anything larger than a EU 46 jacket on me makes me look like I was swallowed by fabric. I pulled out a long size 48 jacket (american 38) from my closet yesterday and it just looked wrong. I had gotten used to a really closely-constructed fit. I'm still not ready to wear all this volume as is, but I'm getting more and more used to it the more I see it on runway shows like Dries'. I used to wear all my clothing much larger in the 80s and I loved the look then, while hating the fitted forms of the 70s, so what comes around goes around. It's part of what fashion does - you start seeing it to get used to it again before you actually like it (some early adopters will like things faster, despite others' showing hesitation) and then it becomes invisibly accepted as time draws on. It's just a matter of seeing what styles will actually stick when they are revived, despite our memories of what they used to mean to us before.

I recall some people on this very site just last year saying they'd never give up their pointy-toed shoes because they'll *always* be instyle, but I remember people being unable to deal with them in 1998. It took almost 4 years before people actually accepted them enough to make them more regularly seen at the store level (and now on your local Old Navy shopper! ) and lately, pointy-toes are looking very, VERY passe to me. I have no doubt that pretty soon, it will just suddeny dawn on people that the *next* thing is normal, and what they used to love is old hat.

 

[nqth]

^ yes yes yes:-)
I always want to see the 80s, 70s, 50s etc thread. (I saw some old Italian and French films and I surprised myself I only noticed the clothes:-P)

 

[Pastry]

^^

 

[Pastry]

i think that's the best idea i've heard from you , softgrey! really...i may have been only a baby of the 80's but it must have rubbed off! i do love the 80's, be it the version passed onto me by others..

 

[nqth]

*i never really could get past the cavaricci-ness of raf's giant pleated pants......
and i don't think i am the only one...

...

I saw two ppl wear that giant trousers here in Warsaw:-)

 

[softgrey]

i wish you had pics nqth!!......

i have been trying and trying to start a new thread...
i promise to get it up!!...
happy you guys like the idea...

i agree nqth...
we need more historical stuff about fashion and trends and where it all comes from so we can have more in-depth conversations...
plus it's just fascinating...

 

[Pastry]

I saw two ppl wear that giant trousers here in Warsaw:-)

well, of course..i still see many people wear voluminous pleats...for the wrong reason

...don't see those front pleat, acid wash numbers anymore..phew!

why are the 80's so hard to let go of?

 

[fab_fifties_fille]

thank you! i don't know why everyone is attacking it...

it's not so much the print that I'm opposed to, I'm a fan of print ...it's the way in which he's tackled it,

 

[birdofparadise]

In his book, Dries talks about having a slight fascination with bad taste, probably in the same vein of Prada. This could be one of those attempts to scratch an itch...

But this is good, I'll have more money in my bank account come fall from not spending as much.

 

[fashionista-ta]

In his book, Dries talks about having a slight fascination with bad taste, probably in the same vein of Prada. This could be one of those attempts to scratch an itch...

But this is good, I'll have more money in my bank account come fall from not spending as much.

Now *that's* the kind of optimism I love And I have definitely felt that way myself in seasons past.

 

[cerfas]

Softgrey - you should DEFINITELY do that thread, I think it would be awesome to see all that