Edie Sedgwick #1

[rocketqueen707]

I hate that! it's so fake. well only an idiot would buy/sell it lmao. but anyway i think those pictures up top look s0o cute. i luv her make-up she was such an artist even when it came to her own face. u can tell she had good skin even w/out makeup

 

[IcePrincess]

I did get Factory Girl There is a lot of interesting commentary and photos by Nat Finklestein. I would suggest buying it. Girl on Fire looks like a better book to me. Can't wait until it comes out. She finally seems to be given the credit she deserves.

From Factory Girl; Nat Finklestein

I didn't know you got that!

I am getting "Girl on Fire"

Here is an except of the book I was telling you about
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small except about Edie from 'Andy Warhol, The Factory Years 1964-1967' by Nat Finkelstien


She was there, I was like a mirror passing through her house. I arrived, and there was his family and there was this girl named Edie Sedgwick, a member of the family. I observed, but of course I am also a human being, so I interacted. And she was pretty, and she was fun, and she was sick - so maybe, maybe...but maybe never came. I remember one night I spent with her at Henry Geldzahler's place. This is immediately before she went out and had her battle with Andy, as a matter of fact it was the same night. I spent the whole night with Edie...of course I was thinking sex, she wasn't. She taught me lots of things: she taught me where to buy expensive wine late at night, she pointed out the best soul food place in middle Manhattan. We talked about clothing and all HER particular personal problems. She complained about money, she says she wasn't living too well. Meanwhile we were drinking Chat Margaux. She came from a rich family, but like all other rich people, she wouldn't let you know of her finances. Rich people are always broke, the capital itself is the object. She complained that with all this sh*t of 'art for art's sake', she wasn't getting any money for her part in the art, "Get me pay for my dinner." God! Edie was boring. She had a beautiful body, whoop to doo, but that was all. Like most girls at the factory, there wasn't anything real about Edie. She was simply signs and symbols. She was spoiled in every sense, a child of the haute bourgeoisie, with no thought in her head at all, except 'Edie". Edie was slumming: rich down town people getting in their car and driving to Harlem to score, pretending they were in that scene. Then the scene jumped up and bit her in the ***. Edie was another one of these little, rich kids, who came down where it was too rough for her to play...so she lost the game. She wound up destroyed dying a junkie death. She was representative of something so selfish and superficial that the only thing she was able to destroy or change was herself. Her life was a pop tragedy. A superficial tragedy.


American society produces disposables. Edie was not BIONIC women, but DISPOSABLE women. In the Factory women were there to be used, it was a male dominated society. No girls ever hung around very long. The boys were real, touchable...Andy never touched the girls. Edie was a building block, a model on the cover of Vouge. She was in the newspapers and got Andy publicity. That was probably the main attraction for him. She cut her hair and sprayed it silver, just like Andy's. It was "Look at me, look at me", and people looked at people from the Factory - satellites of the star. It was a case of little fish being eaten by a fish slightly bigger, being eaten by a fish slightly bigger, being eaten...Chuck Wein was supposed to be the person who landed Edie : her friend. Edie told me during one of or sessions: "I'm such a poor girl, everybody takes advantage of me." She told me that Chuck Wein was plying her with acid and directing her while she was f*cking guys in front of him. But then again, Edie reminded me about the joke about the fairy princess, lying nude on a bed in a high tower, sleeping for a thousand years. Then the rescuing prince comes up and kisses her, she wakes up and says: "Everybody wants to f*ck me."

 

[madison01]

i'm not buying the factory girl book. nat finkelstein is a jerk, and he's creepy too. he harassed individuals in the edie LJ community and weirded everyone out... then got himself banned. he was so rude to me. he never liked andy or edie and said the most wretched things about them. and look at what he's doing now... cashing in on edie's rising popularity. he's even said that he makes his living off of her photos.

i'm really excited about all the unseen photos/footage that will come out of the whole girl on fire project though. it seems they've uncovered tons and tons of wonderful stuff.

 

[fairyx]

jerk or no jerk, I´m still gonna buy both books. I want everything there is possible for me to get, that has anything to do with Edie.

 

[IcePrincess]

i'm not buying the factory girl book. nat finkelstein is a jerk, and he's creepy too. he harassed individuals in the edie LJ community and weirded everyone out... then got himself banned. he was so rude to me. he never liked andy or edie and said the most wretched things about them. and look at what he's doing now... cashing in on edie's rising popularity. he's even said that he makes his living off of her photos.

i'm really excited about all the unseen photos/footage that will come out of the whole girl on fire project though. it seems they've uncovered tons and tons of wonderful stuff.

I read that crap at the LJ community! He was really rude to some of the Edie fans, he could have gone about asking for his photos to be taken down in a better manner than that. He was being really hateful.

 

[IcePrincess]

Man, what a jerk. I love the way he puts down "rich" people. Puhlease! Interesting read though. Girl on Fire is probably the better book. I don't know if I'll buy it or not. Here are a few more photos from Factory Girl by Nat Finklestein:

I was going to get "Factory Girl" but I don't know if I want to anymore.


I wonder what he would say at the book signing "Edie was a boring, spoiled girl who thought everyone wanted to sleep with her and was taking advantage of her --even though I tried to sleep with her and got turned down, and I am taking advantage of her by making money off her images while I make rude comments about her."

Maybe I interpreted what he wrote in "The Andy Warhol Factory Years" book incorrectly, but that's what it sounded like to me.

 

[outdoorminer]

Here's Nat Finkelstein's conversations with the people at the community - he's a creep, can't write, and is just mean.

http://community.livejournal.com/edie_sedgwick/178422.html

 

[60swildchild]

I was going to get "Factory Girl" but I don't know if I want to anymore.
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I would wait until the prices go down....

 

[60swildchild]

Here is what Marianne Faithfull had to say:

Marianne Faithfull: "Edie for me was a red light, blinking: 'DON'T GO THERE!'. Though I was nothing like Edie - I wasn't as clever, stylish, hip, cool, blah-di-blah - I got the feeling that had I gone to New York around that time and got into speed I'd have been chewed up and swallowed, unless of course I'd run away with Bob Dylan in which case I would've been totally protected. Edie, you see, didn't get an actual offer from Bob - I did. Her appeal, I'd say, was - and still is, amazingly - that she was a really cool chick. A lot of it is Andy, of course. Without Andy and all those guys, your Paul Morrisseys, your Ondines - I don't think Edie would've been all that interesting, a boring, spoiled, upper-class chick essentially. Andy was a genius and you can't always aspire to that. What you can aspre to is to be the consort of genius - and all that implies."

Is she contradicting herself or is it just me? and why does she say that about Bob Dylan: I got an actual offer, Edie didn't.

 

[60swildchild]

Here is what Marianne Faithfull had to say:

Marianne Faithfull: "Edie for me was a red light, blinking: 'DON'T GO THERE!'. Though I was nothing like Edie - I wasn't as clever, stylish, hip, cool, blah-di-blah - I got the feeling that had I gone to New York around that time and got into speed I'd have been chewed up and swallowed, unless of course I'd run away with Bob Dylan in which case I would've been totally protected. Edie, you see, didn't get an actual offer from Bob - I did. Her appeal, I'd say, was - and still is, amazingly - that she was a really cool chick. A lot of it is Andy, of course. Without Andy and all those guys, your Paul Morrisseys, your Ondines - I don't think Edie would've been all that interesting, a boring, spoiled, upper-class chick essentially. Andy was a genius and you can't always aspire to that. What you can aspre to is to be the consort of genius - and all that implies."
http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=edie4mf5.jpg

 

[fairyx]

Here's Nat Finkelstein's conversations with the people at the community - he's a creep, can't write, and is just mean.

http://community.livejournal.com/edie_sedgwick/178422.html

wow... reading his livejournal is making me believe he´s on some kind of weird drug or something... really bizarre...

anyway, I understand that he doesn´t want his pictures everywhere, but somehow he have to realize that it´s already too late, everyone has already seen his pictures.
and I do thank him for his beautiful pictures of Edie.

 

[cigalechanta]

You can love her style but not her. She died at only 29, a drug addict.

 

[fairyx]

You can love her style but not her. She died at only 29, a drug addict.

28 actually

 

[TheKiwi]

The EdieNation/Girl on Fire myspace put up some new unseen photos in the Quotes and Photos section. Could someone capture those photos and put them up on here? I have a Mac and screen capturing is a pain in the *** to do on here... Thanks!

 

[TheKiwi]

Nevermind... I captured them for you guys!

Credit: http://www.myspace.com/ediegirlonfire

 

[TheKiwi]

A few more... I know we've seen a few of these before, but there are some that I've (and I'm sure most if not all of us) have seen before. ENJOY!

Credit: http://www.myspace.com/ediegirlonfire

 

[Caroline]

she is just so beautiful, she looked so delicate like a doll

of course--just like patti smith wrote "like blushing
baby dolls"

my favorite part is "she broke down/like a baby/like a baby girl/like a lady"

 

[Thew]

^thanks TheKiwi,those are great!

 

[IcePrincess]

The EdieNation/Girl on Fire myspace put up some new unseen photos in the Quotes and Photos section. Could someone capture those photos and put them up on here? I have a Mac and screen capturing is a pain in the *** to do on here... Thanks!

They have been posting some great photos there, I can't wait for the book

 

[IcePrincess]

wow... reading his livejournal is making me believe he´s on some kind of weird drug or something... really bizarre...

anyway, I understand that he doesn´t want his pictures everywhere, but somehow he have to realize that it´s already too late, everyone has already seen his pictures.
and I do thank him for his beautiful pictures of Edie.

He did take some gorgeous photos of Edie, that's one positive thing I can say about him.

I think most real Edie fans will buy a book regardless of whether are not they have seen the photos already. They want to know the story of what's behind them, at least I do.