Grace Jones dislikes Lady Gaga

[diorelle]

SOOO true. I've had enough of the idiotic 15 year olds of today argue with one another like they actually know something about music.

This!
I'm so tired of all the indie/hipster kids who think they invented music.
But it's not like Grace Jones invented body paint, electronic music or the clothes she wore so therefore she's not the original, not saying she wasn't groundbreaking however. This reminds me of all the Madonna vs. Kylie fights when Confessions came out. lol.
And if anything at least Gaga is saying upfront who inspired her she wasn't saying she's never heard of her in her life and thought she was a man.

 

[iluvjeisa]

It's just different circles I guess. I know Nina (and love her for being everything and more you guys claim Jones is) and that kind of "weirdo music" from 70's/80's (like Sparks and James) and the really of (and really ****ty) work of Green Day work from late 80's, yes, they are around *that* long., they just had their breakthrough with Dookie and Isomniac in the mid 90's and a comeback with American Idiot in mid 00's, and I never said they were original, just they managed to stay relevant.
And, yeah, well, I try to know more about Grace, but somehow nothing much comes out of, after hours on disco music boards only relevant thing I learn about her is that she had really fun live performances in gay clubs in the beginning of 80's and how she got all fake with when she started dating Jean Paul-Goude and moved her shows to S54 and posh places like that. Other than that, it's seems a love/hate matter like the rest is.
And thanks for telling me I'm stupid and boring.

As a European I can certainly hear where you are coming from. I have definitely heard more about Nina Hagen than Grace Jones - until I came in contact with US dominated fashion...

The world was not ready for Nina Hagen in her day, now they are and all they get is Lady Gaga.

 

[softgrey]

very good point ilj...

that's the price one pays for being avant garde, i guess...

 

[Scott]

This reminds me of all the Madonna vs. Kylie fights when Confessions came out. lol.

and that argument too is rather ridiculous since they both sought inspiration from goldfrapp and scissor sisters.

 

[Scott]

but as for this argument about grace not being original....i do not agree with that at all. she was really the first to mesh all of these different sounds together. caribbean,bossa nova,chanson,jazz,disco,glam rock and synth. and many times within one song. no one else was ever doing that and we have to credit her for how was able to create her own voice in music history. sadly,no one understands it in the states because,like you said softie,she was ever-more popular in europe....especially the UK.

 

[Squizree]

and that argument too is rather ridiculous since they both sought inspiration from goldfrapp and scissor sisters.

Let's not bring Goldfrapp into this cuz she's A.W.E.S.O.M.E

 

[KhaoticKharma]

Wow... I got a good laugh at Grace taking herself so seriously. Even she's buying into this re-imagined vision of what she did, as though she's 100% original. Please; she played with gender roles and rules and sex and sexuality the way that David Bowie and Little Richard did before her. Nothing is ever new. Gaga is authentic, if not original, because she does and wears what she wants unapologetically.

I'm also tired of female artists ripping each other apart over things like this. Shouldn't we be happy that it's okay for a female artist to be sexual in a way that is not for men but for ourselves? Grace had her time; Madonna and Cyndi Lauper had their times, too. I don't hear Mick Jagger ragging on Adam Lambert for the leather swiveling hips or Eddie Vedder harassing Chad Kroeger about his grosky hair.

ETA: I have beef with Grace anyways... even though she was lightyears ahead in the general feminism department, she set black feminism back quite a bit. Constantly being photographed as a wild animal in a society and era in which black female sexuality is always "exotic" and "animalistic" anyways? Not too respectable in my book.