Jil Sander Is Restarting Her Collaboration With Uniqlo

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  1. tricotineacetat

    tricotineacetat Well-Known Member

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    To keep both Uniqlo U and +J, it will be important to find a clear differentiation between both lines and the best way to facilitate that will be to have more aesthetic influence of Lemaire the brand (as it used to be when the line was dubbed 'UNIQLO and LEMAIRE' in the design of Uniqlo U - Although I don't see this happening anytime soon because the course of that label definitely is leading more towards updates on classic Uniqlo staples with every passing season.
     
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    Do we know when this is happening? Any update? I've been refreshing the landing page almost religiously and nothing.
     
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    tricotineacetat Well-Known Member

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    Same here, haha... The J.W. Anderson collab is due to hit the stores in a week, I would guess after that they will put the preview online, assuming that the collection will launch in late October / early to mid November.
     
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    Thanks for sharing, I was dying to see the collaboration (I've been going through her past work in anticipation) and it did not dissapoint: very easy, to the point and desirable.

    I'd love to wear the black nylon jacket with a funnel type collar that can be worn undone and that lovely skirt and jacket suit. For men I prefered the navy jackets, I didn't feel the bombers were unique enough and the quality looks not on par with the rest, I would have left them out...
     
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    Sure thing! I was really excited too and I love the looks but kind of disappointed that the number of items were limited compared to past releases but I suppose that’s the reality of the covid world we live in.

    As per usual, tailoring is very strong for both men and women. A softer tailoring, quite a departure from her usual rigorous silhouette but it’s a perfect interpretation of the current zeitgeist, as she puts it. Though, I felt the pieces with the prints felt forced/out of place - she did admit she wasn’t a “print queen”. Those and the pussybow blouse.

    But all in all, great start. I really hoooope she sticks around!
     
  7. MulletProof

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    Yummy. Pants, that down coat, I have been looking for a new one.. I still wear the golden-ish one she made for this line (and always get compliments!).
     
  8. tricotineacetat

    tricotineacetat Well-Known Member

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    I can't wait to see it up close, with clothes like these it's really important to touch it, see the stitching and how the colours come up in person compared to the screen.

    That being said, I think it's a good and focussed first collection. I am hoping the higher price points than Uniqlo U reflect in the end product but at least I can tell from the Japanese website that they are using more precious fabrics and yarns here than for Uniqlo U (women's basic jerseys are 100% silk as is the 'lavaliere' blouse, knits are mostly cashmere and trousers are either wool or wool blend). That being said, it is a collection that is filling another niche that Uniqlo U does not - Clothes with a more sartorial expression, which isn't something Uniqlo is covering a lot right now.

    I will be happy to see this co-existing in my wardrobe although it is a pity that they do not offer all the sizes in Europe! From what I can tell of the product measurements, I would need a men's XXS and they only sell it in the US online store. :(
     
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    ^ here I am struggling at the Japanese site wondering how did you have the patience to google translate it all.. only to get to the last part of your post- it's at Uniqlo USA too, duh! (psst, I can redirect a package, may or may not owe you my find of 2019!).

    With Uniqlo in general, what I love online I hate in person and the other way around, especially pants. I was really hoping she'd make something similar to that extra stiff short, long-sleeve dress with a zipper, since she recycled that jacket I mentioned previously and just changed the color lol. Here's hoping she'll do it in the next seasons..
     
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  10. Cory333

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    Sooo, it launched and sold out almost immediately. I am super annoyed that 8 minutes after the launch I couldn't go through with my payment, because the fact that the item is in your basket doesn't mean it's reserved. So I had to keep going back, choose something else instead, and try to buy. Eventually I got annoyed and left it. I hope some of you were savvier :smile:
     
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    Thank goodness I have no interest in a single item from this +J men. I was mildly interested in the navy blue tailored suit (because one can never own enough tailored navy blue suits). Thankfully, the pants were sold out in my size at launch, and now the small is gone in the jacket. But even if they were available, it’s not true Jil— at least not to me. I’d rather search out vintage OG Jil and just have it tailored to my standard… I’m a snob and a half and these collabs are just not the real thing, as far as I’m concerned.

    (I'd likely have a different attitude if I were a woman since the womenswear looks much stronger...)
     
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    ^ I ended up with the same feeling as yours. First was happy then absolutely bored by it and did not care once launch.
     
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    ^^^ It’s more a sense that it’s Jil designing again that was the initial excitement. But then the designs are still lacking, and understandably so since it’s mass-market. And how many charcoal-grey merino cardigans can you really keep on buying when it’s available everywhere??? The details aren’t even impressive frankly: The sole suit I was interested in didn’t even have double-vents… And I’m pretty sure the surgeon’s cuffs aren’t workable. Blah.
     
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    All I've been wearing / craving lately is well-made basics & wanted to purchase a lot of the collection. Maybe in part due to nostalgia as my +J coat from like 10 years ago ended up with a bunch of holes & had to go to Goodwill just this last month. Unfortunately, the whole collection sold out before I even had a chance to open the site yesterday morning. Wondering why they didn't put more into production given the level of demand? Hopefully they re-up.
     
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  15. bc collector

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    Yes and no. Obviously it's pointless to compare +J to JS the brand when she was at the helm, it's ridiculous to even think about it. But we should rather put it in the same league of Uniqlo U or any H&M designer collab, to really appreciate it. The attention to detail (at least judging from the pics, because, like everybody else here, I was not ready in front of the screen at 7.59 am) is still exceptional for the price, as I think is the quality of the fabrics used.
    And, as die-hard fan of the label, I still cherish more what she's been doing at Uniqlo over the years than what JS the brand has become now.
     
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    ^^^ Fair point. Absolutely not expecting OG premium Jil-quality nor even new Jil-design. Jil’s brand of minimalism that was also hugely sharp and graphic in it’s disciplined lines that elevated minimalism from basic form 25 years ago remain relevant tot his day. but 25 years later, when “minimalism” basics can be easily achieved from H&M, COS to Uniqlo, would it hurt to rise above the common fodder just a tad beyond better material? Oversized puffers and plain chesterfields are on the basic side of over-saturation of the minimalist style by now.

    (Yes, I get that this offering isn’t for me but for a new generation thus Jil 101. Just wished there was a tad of an effort beyond basic in 2020 by Jil.)
     
  17. bc collector

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    That would not be much in the spirit of Uniqlo, though, would it? The whole company ethos revolves around the contemporary basic wardrobe, Jil just elevated the level.
     
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    I only saw one black coat (from women´s collection) that caught my attention. The rest of what have been shown so far is very "meh" to me...hope there are some more interesting pieces here...
     
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    Well. I believe with a collab like this, you really have to see it in person to feel the fabric and cut on the body. The majority of fabrics and finishes used were very much on par with what you would find in the better high end luxury brands existing today - I have no illusions that any Jil Sander suit made since the days she sold her company to Prada was constructed in the same manner as those that were offered here (with half-canvassed construction, as those from Helmut Lang). The more expensive men's wool blazer and trouser was made of a nice, compact flannel that had a substantial drape. The shirting was made with very dense stitch count and accuracy that excels most with a luxury pricetag sold today. Personally I don't see a reason to buy luxury goods brands at full price today (probably owned by PPRs or LVMHs) if I can have something like this at a fraction of the price - That said suit would have cost 300€, whereas I suppose a mainline Jil Sander suit sold today would probably cost anything between 1500 and 2000€ (and still be made with fused lapels, like the ones for +J).
     
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    I went to the store today and they had all the styles there. I got the double face-wool work jacket. So beautiful classic Jil with beautiful making and roomy, couture-like curved sleeves that I know to expect from her jackets. I also bought several shirts because I know from the old +J that they really are close to luxury shirts with great quality!

    Jil is the kind of designers whose clothes come to life once they are on the body. The three-dimensional cut. That’s why this collection is impossible to buy online because you need to get the size right and to really see the materials and details. So many things looked more exciting in the store than in the pictures online.
     
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