blueorchid
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Oh, the current crop of designers make me feel... something...Or at least an artist who makes you feel something.
Oh, the current crop of designers make me feel... something...Or at least an artist who makes you feel something.
No, in other industries it works differently. For example, in the videogame industry an unknown indie developer can get spotlight through his work...and get hired by a big company...without the need of the "pedigree" of a luxury school.But does it work like that in others industries? The best talents, even if they comes from « unknown public schools » can through their grades, joined more reputable schools where their talent will match the reputation of the schools and then allow them to choose which companies they want to work with.
Well, I did mention Sabato and a few more. The rest are C-list houses run by chicken heads who take terrible decisions.why do you keep ignoring the fact that plenty of new generation designers were given a chance at big houses. But none of them delivered so far only those who are in smaller houses are delivering fresh fashion. That is why even in this forum people would rather recommend seasoned designers for important positions than picking from the crop of new gen designers. ancora guy, mcqueen guy, ludovic, feragamo guy all failed to do anything fresh.
Interesting you mention his grad collection, because even at the time it was so heavily influenced by Westwood to the point it bordered on knock-off. Not to discredit it at all, but the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and that the "genius" we look for in other designers takes time to learn and gestate to be something fruitful and genuine. We don't really have that right now. Hell, I've taken a huge break from doing any fashion work because I'm burnt out by it and in a way disgusted by it because of how much stuff is being churned through visually, artistically, commercially, digitally and whatnot.That takes me back to Galliano's graduation collection and Christian Dior's first collection. These simply shined on their own.
But for every Galliano, McQueen or even Alaia, there are Mugler, Karl, Yves, Tom, Miuccia…etc.This is going to sound bad, but I was also thinking you kinda need to be “poor” to be talented.
I feel when you are too comfortable you don’t have issues, everything is very easy… Galliano, McQueen, Ghesquière, Margiela… they all come from poor environments.
You can't help someone who doesn't want it. There have been many interventions done by people from both LVMH and Dior long before John's drunken outburst. Maybe they should have fired him earlier. I don't get why Galliano is still being painted as the victim of LVMH when he has done it to himself.I mean it's ironic: when Galliano fell from grace, sick, his bosses fired him, they didn't try to cure him or help him, they just fired him. They said the circus he does is replaceable by Bill, who worked very closely with him and must know the secrets of Galliano genius. But we already saw what happened: Suzy Menkes wrote something worthy about it.
easy to say but creatives are vulnerable to it, add in the pressure of needing to perform in numbers and its a recipe for codependence. Theres a reason a large number of the "Greats" have had problems.I don’t think any company makes people alcholic of drug addict. That was his fault.
Not on it's own but it is could be a contributing factor especially for creatives like said above ^.I don’t think any company makes people alcholic of drug addict.
100% after watching the doc, I never wanted to slap someone like I wanted to at Toledano for the comments he made (and Arnault in footage of old interviews after the fact). Like you know someone is trashing hotel rooms and drinking themselves unconscious and you didn't think they have a problem? Be serious. Not to take any responsibility away from Galliano, though.But the way LVMH managed the situation was beyond nasty imo.
He renewed his contract in 2008 so his contract was going to end in 2013 anyway. The year he left, sales were already growing. It was at the time that they had that Resort show in Asia and Dior was doing good.I don’t think any company makes people alcholic of drug addict. That was his fault. But the way LVMH managed the situation was beyond nasty imo.
Had it been any other designer (Karl), nothing would’ve happened, I’m sure. I think they wanted to get rid of Galliano (which is normal, because what he was doing at the end of his tenure was a super sh!t and everybody was tired), and they took advantage of the whole situation.
Im puzzled by the infantilization of that grown man. Every creative is hyper sensitive. A lot of them cope with trauma and pressure differently.
What happened to John is John’s only fault. A lot of designers indulged to substance abuse like Donatella, Marc Jacobs and others. Karl ate his pain out for example…
But none of them went on the terrasse of a Cafe insulting customers.
As a company and as individuals, people at Dior did what they could do. But you can’t protect a grown man from himself.
some can.. some cant 😁 we need a list of unproblematic fashion geniuses.so what... they can't be a decent human being?