John Galliano Is Stripped Of Legion Of Honour

[TREVOFASHIONISTO]

I guess governments control what history they teach in schools.

the sad thing is they do, but i am getting off topic

Being fired and fined equals spending months locked up in prison?! That's a good one! Gosh, the things you read here...

Also, SO WHAT if he doesn't find another job that is well-paid? I don't get the issue here? As someone ironically said in this thread "poor Galliano who made millions for years"! Probably won't be able to pay the electricity bill and feed his cat!

sorry to have gotten you so worked up about this i am just stating how i feel. I guess some of us only see things in black & white

 

[WerbowyStegner]

He'd be killed during Hitler's reign too , since he's homosexual , I doubt he meant what he said.. and if he did ..

 

[LUXXX]

I think it's a little silly to do this, to be honest. And that's all I have to say about it. He got the honor for a specific reason and it's not like everyone else who receives it has been a saint.

 

[lucy92]

these awards can be rescinded at any time by the government. for instance, gary barlow's OBE (similar to the Legion d'Honneur in france) may be stripped pending a tax evasion investigation in the UK...

 

[tigerrouge]

And then all the politicians who have structured their entire careers around similarly legal forms of tax reduction will line up to make statements condemning Gary's actions.

Pointing the finger at one person certainly helps to direct public attention away from the corners of society where certain acts are being committed on a much larger scale.

 

[Jacque Marcel]

He will always be known, for a while at least, as disgraced designer John Galliano. We live in a time where information is instant and easily accessible. The videos of him saying those awful things will never go away. I don't think he can start over without this issue coming up. It's unfortunate but he made his bed.

 

[Littleathquakes]

Not really. Chanel was practically sleeping with the Nazis and look at how immortal she's become. Talent > scandal, despite what people with deep seeded hate for him (ironic) would rather see.

 

[fashionista-ta]

^ I haven't seen any evidence of hate for Galliano. Disgust or revulsion, perhaps.

I think Coco Chanel is remembered as an innovator and important influencer, a major personality and perhaps a genius ... but not as a good person.

 

[Littleathquakes]

^ maybe you should review the events. Dismissed from Dior, check. Dismissed from his own label, check. Fined, check. And now this. This has gone on beyond punishment for the crime. They hate him, and they won't be happy until he's gone from this earth.

 

[fashionista-ta]

^ It's already been clearly explained that the fine and this action were legally mandated. That isn't hate, it's justice.

Regarding his dismissal, can you give me an example of a high-ranking designer, executive, anyone prominent in the public eye in the same region who has kept his/her job after doing something similar? That's not hate, it's simple cause/effect, and the natural and logical desire to distance a huge brand from extremely undesireable/unattractive behavior.

Additionally, Dior may well have been aware of other things that weren't so well publicized, and have been prepared to do what was necessary should something become public. You and I have no way of knowing what else they may have been able to hush up successfully prior to this, or whether this behavior was part of a pattern.

 

[Littleathquakes]

And it's also been discussed whether that "justice" is necessarily justice or simply a political move. It comes a year after the incident. It's excessive punishment, which is what people such as myself and anyone who has the sensibility to forgive & forget someone who has already publicly apologized and paid for his action, have been arguing against those who simply look at every single punishment that comes his way as merely a response to his action and seemingly disregard the fact that man has practically had everything taken away from him already.

His dismissal from Dior was appropriate, it is a hallowed label after all. His dismissal from his own label was excessive, and anything else after that, IMO, is excessive. That's the point I'm making. He's paid for his crime. Other people like you are saying it's a matter of crime and punishment. And exactly at what point does the punishment end for Galliano?

 

[pixiedust1603]

Getting his Legion of Honour stripped so long after the scandal occurred is a bit strange but Sarcozy should have been done it as soon as it happened and I suppose the new President felt as though he didn't deserve to have it unlike Sarcozy who did. There is a difference in opinion there like many in this thread.

Galliano is talented and still has friends in the industry so he will come back and I think the imposed break will do him a lot of good. However I do think his punishments have been just as he broke the law.
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[fashionista-ta]

I would imagine Carla is directly or indirectly responsible for this action not having been taken during the Sarkozy administration. Given that Galliano dressed her, they may have felt that it could wait.

 

[pixiedust1603]

I thought the same thing.
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[chickadee]

Just following up on the Chanel point, as someone else already mentioned, there was no Facebook or Youtube in Chanel's time; thus it's easier to put her less commendable qualities out of sight and out of mind. Galliano had the misfortune of being recorded. And the internet is forever.

 

[TianSoFine]

^Very true. Chanel left France after the war for a while (I think to England?). It was as simple as that. Galliano can't disappear and be forgotten quite as easily because the Internet is everywhere.

 

[fashionista-ta]

^ I don't think he's trying to disappear though ... otherwise why all the lunches with Anna?

 

[TianSoFine]

^Well, disappearing isn't really the best option in the modern day. Things are different now. Chanel had the option of disappearing and setting up shop again as though nothing had happened. Galliano doesn't even have control over his own brand anymore.

 

[pixiedust1603]

Also with Chanel, I assume most people didn't know about it until after she died or later in her career when she was somewhat untouchable. And like many have said she could actually hide out as the media didn't have eyes everywhere then.
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[Littleathquakes]

I wouldn't assume that. After the war, Chanel was arrested,... and then released. What went behind closed doors we will never know, but I think it was public knowledge that she had connection with Nazi officers. I think it was more your latter part, which was the non-existent media that we have today that would've spread her story to a much wider audience, something that Galliano does not have the fortune of having.