Louis Vuitton S/S 2025 : Lisa & Saoirse Ronan by Steven Meisel

Lisa, full name Lalisa Manoban, is a Thai singer, rapper and dancer who found superstardom becoming a K-pop singer in the enormous girlband BLACKPINK.
She is one of the only K-pop stars to not be South Korean, but Thai, and is fluent in English, Japanese and South Korean.
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It's somewhat of a semantics matter, but Lisa is typically considered Southeast Asian (Thai, Malaysian, Filipino, Vietnamese, Indonesian, etc.) not East Asian. You can definitely argue that SEA can/should be included in EA, but many from the SEA region tend to prefer the separated designation these days :)

As for the campaign - thrilled to see Saoirse finally get her fashion campaign flowers! And Lisa is always fab in everything she does.

I am surprised that it takes so long for Saoirse to land a major campaign and possibly become an ambassador for a major brand given that she is one of the most talented actresses of her generation! To me, those K-Pop stars are just like the younger generation of East Asian actresses, they blend into each other and I literally cannot remember who is who.

As ubiquitous as K-Pop can feel sometimes, the true global superstars within that sector, like Lisa, stand very strong on their own as cultural icons. I think that's important to acknowledge and recognize for anyone who's a fan of fashion, which is just another cultural facet itself.
 
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Meisel’s touch is more silver than anything else… the last shots of Saiorse are decent I guess.
 
I am surprised that it takes so long for Saoirse to land a major campaign and possibly become an ambassador for a major brand given that she is one of the most talented actresses of her generation! To me, those K-Pop stars are just like the younger generation of East Asian actresses, they blend into each other and I literally cannot remember who is who.
It's fine if you are not their intended audience but saying Asians blend into each other is regrettably ignorant. Just because she's not a white Western actress doesn't mean she's a placeholder for all Asians.

The luxury market relies on Asia where Lisa (and k-pop's) primary audience is to do steady numbers when other markets slow down. China and South Korea always spend on luxury. Half of the countries with the highest rates of new millionaires - aka new money - are in Asia and include Indonesia and her home country of Thailand. Indonesia is a huge consumer of k-pop, the biggest outside East Asia I think. There's a reason she was hired and it's not so that you specifically can learn her name.
 
Wow, Lisa by Meisel... I wasn't expecting that, but I'm happy to see. She looks gorgeous, as usual!

Boring, but beautiful images. Reminds me of the Prada (pre fall? 16) ad with Vanessa, Vittoria and Sasha. It gives me the same vibe.
 
You sound straight up ignorant. It’s about time for you to educate yourself on the topic of diversity and ethnicity.
Well, the girl and her group are bland regardless of her ethnicity just like most K-pop stars. As an East Asian who knows its consumer culture, I think there are more talented and charming Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Thai, or other Southeast Asian actresses/stars than that but she is just not one of them.
 
Working overtime this season trying to redeem his ads... Steven honey wake up.
 
Steven darling, fire your post production team, I'm begging please.
 
As ubiquitous as K-Pop can feel sometimes, the true global superstars within that sector, like Lisa, stand very strong on their own as cultural icons. I think that's important to acknowledge and recognize for anyone who's a fan of fashion, which is just another cultural facet itself.
True, she does embody k-pop internationally, has been able to branch out just like Jennie, and k-pop itself will have a pretty decent chapter in pop culture history. That being said, as someone who lived through the rise and subsequent downfall of the American manufactured pop stars of the late 90s and early 00s, from the boybands to the generic, interchangeable orangey, peroxide blondes (Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, Mandy Moore).. I'm surprised criticism on k-pop, which is just as manufactured, repetitive in terms of sound, aggressive in marketing, brutal as an industry and highly strategized when it comes to image and a very specific type of physique, is seen as above criticism (same for its aesthetic impact on film and television), or immediately reduced to rejection of an entire race just because its stars are Asians. This phenomenon in music where it's not all stemming from a youth movement but a rather strict template that is pushed onto youth can be found in pretty much every country and region, you see it in Latin America in the mid 90s, in Russia in the early 00s, in the UK almost as a parody (Westlife, Five) and the people who attend the auditions and make the cut WILL look alike and if they don't, they will go to great lengths to make sure they do (Lisa has had a crazy amount of cosmetic surgery as a result of this). I know this is a fashion and not a music forum but diving into other creative fields and understanding their own bs adds perspective and helps to make things feel less.. aggravating at the mere mention of race.

Anyway, yeah, not the best model for this campaign and as much as I enjoy Saoirse's work, her fashion persona is nowhere in my interests, some people should just be left alone.. let her act, she's good at it, not everyone has to be a fashion 'icon'.
 
True, she does embody k-pop internationally, has been able to branch out just like Jennie, and k-pop itself will have a pretty decent chapter in pop culture history. That being said, as someone who lived through the rise and subsequent downfall of the American manufactured pop stars of the late 90s and early 00s, from the boybands to the generic, interchangeable orangey, peroxide blondes (Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, Mandy Moore).. I'm surprised criticism on k-pop, which is just as manufactured, repetitive in terms of sound, aggressive in marketing, brutal as an industry and highly strategized when it comes to image and a very specific type of physique, is seen as above criticism (same for its aesthetic impact on film and television), or immediately reduced to rejection of an entire race just because its stars are Asians. This phenomenon in music where it's not all stemming from a youth movement but a rather strict template that is pushed onto youth can be found in pretty much every country and region, you see it in Latin America in the mid 90s, in Russia in the early 00s, in the UK almost as a parody (Westlife, Five) and the people who attend the auditions and make the cut WILL look alike and if they don't, they will go to great lengths to make sure they do (Lisa has had a crazy amount of cosmetic surgery as a result of this). I know this is a fashion and not a music forum but diving into other creative fields and understanding their own bs adds perspective and helps to make things feel less.. aggravating at the mere mention of race.

Anyway, yeah, not the best model for this campaign and as much as I enjoy Saoirse's work, her fashion persona is nowhere in my interests, some people should just be left alone.. let her act, she's good at it, not everyone has to be a fashion 'icon'.
I don't think these matters are specific to fashion, music, or any creative field, really. It's more a matter of superfans of a sector (In TFS' case, luxury/traditional fashion) having an organic rejection of the mainstream and its influences "invading" something seemingly precious. But in the end, we end up behaving the same way as your average KPop stan, really 😜

I would also say fashion brands have always openly inserted themselves into wanting to define who today's icons are/should be for the public, even though these days they're usually already a step behind. Their priority is also just to stay relevant, haha...
 
But in the end, we end up behaving the same way as your average KPop stan, really 😜
Yes 😆.. I know it can be worse! I know I know lol. I'm just more used to seeing a defensive reaction on the matter and not deviating it on 'how dare you call them clones, you racist!'.. they look like clones! it happens in music (where it's more annoying because it comes with sound) and it happens oh so explicitly in fashion (the Dutch wave being my least favorite, I'm still suffering from fatigue and it's been over for like 10 years lol).

Also agree with your second paragraph, I used to have an issue with Karl been exposed to something on a random day and deciding that he would single-handedly turn them into larger-than-life fashion icons (Vive la fete lol, Cat Power, Devendra Banhart).. but seeing companies now tapping everyone, knocking on every door like a desperate encyclopedia seller, with multiple exhibits on just how versatile and YOUR TASTE their product is, and like you said, consistently being one step behind....you're kind of missed, Karl, at least he was just overhyping the stuff he did genuinely like.
 
Yes 😆.. I know it can be worse! I know I know lol. I'm just more used to seeing a defensive reaction on the matter and not deviating it on 'how dare you call them clones, you racist!'.. they look like clones! it happens in music (where it's more annoying because it comes with sound) and it happens oh so explicitly in fashion (the Dutch wave being my least favorite, I'm still suffering from fatigue and it's been over for like 10 years lol).

Also agree with your second paragraph, I used to have an issue with Karl been exposed to something on a random day and deciding that he would single-handedly turn them into larger-than-life fashion icons (Vive la fete lol, Cat Power, Devendra Banhart).. but seeing companies now tapping everyone, knocking on every door like a desperate encyclopedia seller, with multiple exhibits on just how versatile and YOUR TASTE their product is, and like you said, consistently being one step behind....you're kind of missed, Karl, at least he was just overhyping the stuff he did genuinely like.
As someone of Asian descent I will say that the less K-pop-specific version of the clone comment is unfortunately a very common insult in the west (EU and NA especially) for Asians at-large, so even when it's stated as a mere observation of industry practices, it's still difficult to forget its historical roots. But that's a topic for another day...
 
^ Yeah I think the anonymity and international nature of the internet calls for more thoughtfulness or just a quick disclaimer because we all tend to drop the ball when talking about our own countries/communities/people/race and are sometimes extra critical, which can be interpreted as unhinged racism or xenophobia if someone doesn't really know what you look like or where you come from. At the same time though, the way the US and Europe project their social dynamics onto everyone and expect people to shape the vocabulary/conduct based on domestic issues.. talk about a 'center of the universe' complex. Diplomacy goes a long way but it goes both ways, regulating vocabulary should go hand in hand with regulating proneness to insult when mingling with people from all over the planet.
 

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