Raf Simons Leaving Christian Dior; Maria Chiuri Rumored In

[mariemaud]

good news for me, i adore him but not for dior
i wish he could replace slimane @ SLP
ackermann@dior ? i like the idea as well

 

[Nymphaea]

I'm not surprised at all. Right from the beginning the match between Raf and Dior wasn't made in heaven at all.

 

[Miss Dalloway]

Raf Simons cannot work for at least one year as a creative director for an other brand as stated in his contract with Dior. And Phoebe Philo is rumoured to remplace him as she is supposed to quit Céline !

I don't think this is true in his case, he simply didnt renew his contract which leaves him free of the "can't work with anyone else for 1 year", that would happen only if he decided to leave before the contract was up. Maybe I'm wrong, but all reports state the contract came to an end, and he opted out on extending it.

 

[george5]

I'm glad. I love Raf's other work, but I always saw him as a Marc Bohan or Gianfranco Ferré of Dior.

I don't want to be mean but to me Raf's Dior will always be something like Julien Macdonald's Givenchy.

 

[narcyza]

Finally!

 

[arlekindearrabal]

I don't want to be mean but to me Raf's Dior will always be something like Julien Macdonald's Givenchy.

Well, you are being kind of mean. But funny.

 

[Thefrenchy]

I'm only glad that he's gone because that means we'll stop getting that "He wasn't the right fit" bs... If he was such a bad choice, sales wouldn't be what they are today at Dior. His vision of the Maison definitely appealed to customers.

I liked his work there. Even though he never topped his first HC collection which one of my favorite collection ever, he definitely had up and downs. I'm happy he finished on a high note with the Couture one.

Definitely looking forward to where he will go next... And wondering who will take over... Not feeling Philo at Dior at all...

 

[bad seed]

I'm only glad that he's gone because that means we'll stop getting that "He wasn't the right fit" bs... If he was such a bad choice, sales wouldn't be what they are today at Dior. His vision of the Maison definitely appealed to customers.

I liked his work there. Even though he never topped his first HC collection which one of my favorite collection ever, he definitely had up and downs. I'm happy he finished on a high note with the Couture one.

Definitely looking forward to where he will go next... And wondering who will take over... Not feeling Philo at Dior at all...

^I am totally agree with everything you said.

 

[CholoChic]

What's next: a collection by Arnault&Toledano for Dior?
Or will Bill Gaytten want to be used again for a moment?

In some way I am happy in Simons's goodbye, it was obviously that there was not passion and maybe the commercial side went good but his heart was not good and it felt in clothes. No matter how millions were spent to buy good reviews or to buy millions of flower to the venues. He was never a couture guy.

 

[mariemaud]

philo@dior is unbelievable

 

[sore]

Mutterlein, stop teasing us! I wanna know where he's going NOW

 

[Fashion_Girl22]

I can't say this enough, but I, for one, hope he goes to NOBODY, and just spends 100% of his time, energy, and creativity on his very own menswear line.

Lord knows there's nothing really exciting in menswear right about now, and the Femmes don't really need a new designer anytime soon.

This is what his departure from Jil should've amounted to, honestly. I could never quite wrap my head around why Raf, with his own eponymous label, would accept the job at Dior and all the stresses that come with designing an addition two haute couture collections, when the man who held the same position before him burned and fizzled out.

As others have mentioned, this isn't a shock at all yet happened far sooner than imagined. Olivier Theyskens seems as though he'd make for a natural progression from Raf. In fact, in Dior and I pieces from Theyskens' F/W 03 Rochas collection were featured on the mood board throughout the documentary.

However, my money would be on Tisci getting the job, sadly. Hype and the ability to get your clothes on the back of as many celebrities as possible seems to be the only driving force behind major decisions now, and that perfectly aligns with Tisci's modus operandi these days.

To Raf's credit, the actual fabrication of his Dior collections was a huge improvement from the collections towards the end of Galliano's time at the house. He'll be fine wherever he goes, so long as it's not a house with a history steeped in '50s couture.

 

[frk-frost]

I can't say I ever understood much of his version of Dior - sadly because I liked his version of Jill Sander but woah, I did not expect this I wonder who'll be next.

 

[Laces]

Oh, happy day.

 

[lewak]

Did you not read the brilliant Raf interview in the latest Pop?

It's all there isn't it..... At the end of the piece he's filling the fridge in LA

 

[adrienpegon]

I don't think this is true in his case, he simply didnt renew his contract which leaves him free of the "can't work with anyone else for 1 year", that would happen only if he decided to leave before the contract was up. Maybe I'm wrong, but all reports state the contract came to an end, and he opted out on extending it.

This what TheFashionLaw says, here !

While Simons is rumored to have new projects in the works already, we won't seem them come into fruition for at least a years thanks to the inevitable non-compete agreement he signed with Christian Dior, which prevents him from working for a competitor of a period of at least one year.

 

[Marc10]

This is what his departure from Jil should've amounted to, honestly. I could never quite wrap my head around why Raf, with his own eponymous label, would accept the job at Dior and all the stresses that come with designing an addition two haute couture collections, when the man who held the same position before him burned and fizzled out.

For the challenge and the opportunity? I think virtually any designer would be highly excited to direct one of the greatest fashion houses in the world. I think he came in with genuine excitement, but the pace of current fashion is... ruthless, and quite overbearing. And I bet Raf hated the constant pressure for commercial appeal. It's a shame, really.

 

[Street_a_Licious]

could they get Bill Gaytten back?

 

[VersaceVixen009]

I'm glad, and I did see this coming. Raf is a great designer, but just not for Dior. Ricardo would no doubt make some wonderful couture collections and he knows how to shake up the brand like the way he introduced the Givenchy jean collection, but I feel like it would be too hard for him to stray away from his dark, religious romanticism and that the collections would be too similar to his collections at Givenchy.

Who I would LOVE to see take the reigns is Olivier T. He would breathe the LIFE back into Dior's couture.

 

[Fashion_Girl22]

For the challenge and the opportunity? I think virtually any designer would be highly excited to direct one of the greatest fashion houses in the world. I think he came in with genuine excitement, but the pace of current fashion is... ruthless, and quite overbearing. And I bet Raf hated the constant pressure for commercial appeal. It's a shame, really.

That may very well be the case, but I'd be more inclined to believe that he was oblivious to how great of a challenge it would be long-term had he been some young, know-nothing upstart when he took the job. I mean, what more could drive home the point that what Dior needs is someone with no other obligations, a Ghesquière for Balenciaga set-up, than a good old-fashioned meltdown. There was already great opportunity in turning the following that he amassed from his time at Jil into something truly beneficial for his own label, though I could see how tempting it must have been to get an opportunity to learn the inner workings of such a large and venerable house. It was simply poor decision-making on his part and Dior's overall. More so Dior/LVMH for not realizing that the old formula of someone splitting their time between two labels didn't work in the long run.