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So You Want to Become a Model? (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

I have always had an interest in modelling. When I was younger and thinner, I was told I should try to pursue it. I never did because I didn't have the confidence, and I live in a remote town in Ohio. My parents don't exactly have the money to pay for me to travel to go anywhere either (I have a large family, and kids are expensive. :))

Now I am 17 and have a job of my own to help pay any expenses. I have recently become interested in fashion and modelling again. Modelling has always been a dream of mine, but because of my location and family I never really considered it possible. I have gained weight, but I am on my way to loosing it so soon I think in shall meet the standard criteria.

I am 5'9'' and have relatively good skin (I use to never put any products on my skin to help keep in blemish free. I still had decent skin even when I didn't care for it, and now that I am using products it gets better daily), straigh teeth, and long legs. I am a bit concerned about my shoulders though...do agencies usually like broad shoulders?

I also have another question...about moles. You see , I have several moles on my face and recently my father gave me the option to go get the lasered off or not. I am unsure of what to do. Some people really like my moles and say they give my face more character. I am indifferent towards them, I liek them because they are part of who I am, but if it would help better my chances in modelling, then I wouldn't mind them gone. I could show you a photo of my with moles and with me without moles (via photoshop) but I don't think that is allowed here...right? Anyway...any input would be helpful.
 
Hi everyone, this is my first post! I was just wondering about age and modeling. I went to college instead of going straight into modeling, which is something I'm glad I did, but now I'm older than most of the people they sign. I emailed my pictures to some of the NYC agencies and a couple of them asked me to contact them, but I haven't done so yet. The thing is, I sort shaved off my age when I gave that stat. People generally think I am 16 (I'm actually 22). I know I could pass for younger, and even Tyra Banks suggested that if you look young to lie about your age to get an agency. Could that really work? I mean, whenever I apply for a regular job they always ask for things like D.O.B, SSN#, etc., so wouldn't an agency find out?
 
Thanks for the link, but I couldn’t find an answer to the girl’s question about what type of proof agencies ask for. Do they verify ages by asking for identification or anything like that? Does anyone here know?
 
The first thing ford did when they signed Ali is ask for a copy of her birth certificate.
 
Hi, I’m new to the board but have been reading this thread for a while. I (like most here) have always been interested in modelling and lately I’ve been thinking about sending pictures to some agencies. So, first, a few questions….

Unfortunately I’m only 5’6” but, despite being 17, I’m pretty sure I’m still growing…I saw that some of the agencies allow submissions from people under 5’8” as long as they're under 18. I’ve only got a few more months before my birthday…should I submit anyway?

Another question: my measurements are 34-36-36 (it is bust-waist-hips, right?) and I’m not sure if that proportion is okay…?

Also, I think remember seeing towards the beginning of the thread that you shouldn’t submit photos to an agency unless you’ve already had some modeling experience…is this true? Isn’t it difficult to gain experience without going to an agency first?

Sorry for all the questions (especially if they’re repeats, but I think I’ve been through most of the thread) and thanks in advance to anyone who responds.
 
You don't have to have any experience....you just have to have the looks, the body,the face and that x quality that every agency is looking for.
 
If you get signed, then someone thinks that you've got what it takes, no matter how short, or asymetrical, or crooked-toothed you may be. Waay too much money is involved for an agency to sign someone who won't be able to bring that money back into the agency- hey now, there's nothing for free!

Almost Famous said this in another thread, and I thought all the fashion world shorties would appreciate it!

Believe it or not, there are models that are 5'8 that work more than their 5'10 counterparts! There aren't any set "rules" in this business.
 
Someone said there are models that are 5'8 that get more work than their 5'10 counterparts. Yes... 5'8, not 5'6. 5'6 is just plain too short. And at 17 the chances of growing three (even two) inches are incredibly low. Most girls stop growing at 16, anyway. You should try photography in the industry or something. ;)
 
thought this might be an informative article for this thread.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11134449/


Contrary to popular belief, not all models are carted around in limos while wearing chic dresses and high heels. Outside the Bryant Park tents where many of Fashion Week's runway shows are held, it's a common sight to see pretty young things smoking cigarettes in jeans and sneakers looking remarkably unremarkable as they try to hail a cab to beat the audience to the next show.

To achieve top-tier status — the ones who are chauffeured from show to show while carrying handbags that cost more than startup models' monthly rent — you need more than a pretty face.

Fish ticks off what matters more:

Bone structure.
Shape of head in proportion to body. (The classic fashion illustration of a small head and long body is indeed what the industry looks for.)
How she looks in clothes.
Her "hunger."

"There's definitely work to this," Fish says. "Maybe you're not building a log cabin, but there's a lot of psychological wear and tear. They'll hear, `You lost weight,' or `You gained weight.' And you can't read the stares (of) the casting directors. All that, coupled with the tremendously long hours, which can be 6 a.m. to 2 a.m. if she's one of the working girls of the season."
 
When is it too late to start modeling? I'm turning 23 this year, 5'11, skinny (though i still need to work on my waistline) and definitely doesn't have any modeling experience. However, I really don't have much courage to try out on casting calls and I do think I need to take some class (I can't even walk with 2 in heels on!). Can somebody please give me some advice? I have a pic in my profile. Please don't be too hard on me. :D
 
marsmars said:
Someone said there are models that are 5'8 that get more work than their 5'10 counterparts. Yes... 5'8, not 5'6. 5'6 is just plain too short. And at 17 the chances of growing three (even two) inches are incredibly low. Most girls stop growing at 16, anyway. You should try photography in the industry or something. ;)

Kate Moss, Mona J., Anouck Lepere, Luca G., and Kiara K. would all beg to differ, I'm sure...B)
 
I think this article is most relevent to this thread:
NEW YORK - Who'll be the next Cindy, Naomi or Kate? Will there ever be another Cindy, Naomi or Kate — all supermodels simply known by their first names? (Crawford, Campbell and Moss, for those with short memories.)
Young catwalkers with dreams of being the next big thing begin an eight-day audition Friday at New York Fashion Week.
The industry is ripe for a sensation because it's been five years — a lifetime in the fashion world — since the last household name: Gisele (Bundchen).
But even if a model breaks away from the tall, leggy pack in New York, she still has to impress in Paris and Milan, Italy. Then she has to score some choice magazine spreads and ad campaigns — something that's become increasingly difficult to do as actresses such as Angelina Jolie, Catherine Zeta-Jones and Teri Hatcher consistently grace the covers of glossy magazines and hawk the fashion and beauty products that used to be models' bread and butter.
In September 2004, Vogue — the fashion industry's bible — put nine familiar-but-not-famous models on its cover and heralded the return of the fashion model.
Unfortunately, says Kate Armenta, the magazine's sittings editor, the theory didn't prove true.
"The tide is really toward the celebrity culture right now. Models have taken on a different role. ... Gisele is well known but she's known more for Victoria's Secret or dating Leonardo DiCaprio, not by what ad campaigns she's been in," she says.
Nian Fish, creative director and senior vice president at KCD, which produces shows for top fashion houses, says that's kept new talent from being developed into the next generation of fashion stars.
"It's like how reality television takes away from actors, celebrities take away from models," she says.
Runway regulars Caroline Trentini and Jessica Stam are pretty successful by industry standards but most average Joes would never recognize them on the street.
What it takes
Contrary to popular belief, not all models are carted around in limos while wearing chic dresses and high heels. Outside the Bryant Park tents where many of Fashion Week's runway shows are held, it's a common sight to see pretty young things smoking cigarettes in jeans and sneakers looking remarkably unremarkable as they try to hail a cab to beat the audience to the next show.
To achieve top-tier status — the ones who are chauffeured from show to show while carrying handbags that cost more than startup models' monthly rent — you need more than a pretty face.
Fish ticks off what matters more:
  • <LI class=textBodyBlack>Bone structure. <LI class=textBodyBlack>Shape of head in proportion to body. (The classic fashion illustration of a small head and long body is indeed what the industry looks for.) <LI class=textBodyBlack>How she looks in clothes.
  • Her "hunger."
"There's definitely work to this," Fish says. "Maybe you're not building a log cabin, but there's a lot of psychological wear and tear. They'll hear, `You lost weight,' or `You gained weight.' And you can't read the stares (of) the casting directors. All that, coupled with the tremendously long hours, which can be 6 a.m. to 2 a.m. if she's one of the working girls of the season."
Some models develop the passion — and, maybe even more importantly, confidence — after a special moment on the runway or an ego boost from one top designer or photographer who lights the spark for "the wildfire effect," Fish says.
Before that, though, aspiring models have to find an agency willing to bring them to the attention of casting directors. They're the ones who can see up to 500 models during the weeding-out process, out of which a handful make it to a session with the designers and creative directors.
"A certain number of girls will start in New York City and get the good shows. The shows go immediately online. Then one or two models will start getting buzz, whether they do Marc (Jacobs), Calvin (Klein) or Karl (Lagerfeld), then they go on to a cool show in Milan and then THE show in Paris. ...Daria (Werbowy) was the most recent wildfire," Fish says.
Armenta from Vogue says Werbowy came at the right time. "I'd seen pictures and heard of her, but when (Steven) Meisel shot her for Prada, it blew her out of the water. She was unique. She had such presence. She's so gorgeous and unique but not in an off-putting way."
Occasionally, it's the shy girl who perseveres. Fish predicts Heather Bratton, who did the Chanel, Chloe and Burberry Prorsum shows last season and was then shot by Meisel for Italian Vogue, will have "an amazing season."
Meanwhile, Armenta has her eye on Snejana Onopka, who has been photographed for American Vogue a few times since her turn on the Louis Vuitton, Valentino and Chanel runways last fall.
The right fit
The models not only have to look good in clothes but also "fit" them, says Ivan Bart, senior vice president of IMG Models, which represents Werbowy, Bundchen, Moss and Jacquetta Wheeler.
Again using Werbowy, now the spokesmodel for Lancome, as the example, Bart notes that she had the hippie-chic look when everything coming down the runway had a bohemian style.
"The main thing is the designers are always looking for the woman who best suits the collection, but, that being said, they always want a sure thing," he says. "The bottom line through all of it is selling clothes."
It makes sense that designers first look at models with a paper trail of fashion advertisements because practice makes perfect, Bart says, just like with any craft.
And it pays to be nice and easygoing. It's hard for anyone — including designers, casting directors, photographers, the audience and consumers — not to like an approachable, friendly person, Bart says.
"Taking fashion shows out of the equation, when you're booked for a five-day trip on a remote location for a shoot, would a photographer, stylist, etc., want to be with you? You have to connect to people," he says. "You can't be too demanding or diva-ish anymore, not in 2006. ... If you're not in the best form and giving and excited to be here, there are a lot of other people who are happy to do your job."

from msn :flower:
 
KhaoticKharma said:
Kate Moss, Mona J., Anouck Lepere, Luca G., and Kiara K. would all beg to differ, I'm sure...B)

Yeah. They're all 5'8+

5'8 is considered rather short in the industry, but not at all impossible. Upon checking www.imdb.com, Kate Moss stands at 5'8. Again, 5'8 is not 5'6.
 
Yes. They lie. But 5'6? Okay. I'm done. I don't need to justify anything; go try and be a top-model at 5'6. :lol:
 
marsmars said:
Yeah. They're all 5'8+

5'8 is considered rather short in the industry, but not at all impossible. Upon checking www.imdb.com, Kate Moss stands at 5'8. Again, 5'8 is not 5'6.

Hun, Mona J. CALLS HERSELF 5'6.5. She is friends with a few members of this site, and she has told them that she is that height.
 
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Just in case, I thought that quite a few of you would like to know some of the height requirements for some of the top agencies

Wilhelmina: There are actually no listed height/weight restrictions at the agency or in their model searches. I think that's pretty cool! Naturally, however, I assume a bit o' height and a small frame will help you get on runways!
MC2: There is really nothing on their site, especially if you are not a member. However, the model search on the Karin website says 5'7"-5'11", size 4-6
New York Models: 5'9"+ in your twenties, 5'7"+ if you are "young and still growing"
Major Models: Ages 13-16 must be 5'7" or taller, ages 17-21 must be 5'9" or taller
Vision: Women 5'9"+. However, I am certain that they do not do the teen model thing either
Trump: This agency seems to be compulsive liars in the first place- we all know Polina is no 5'9.5, and I know someone with them and she is not that tall.
Elite: Thirteen to seventeen year olds should be 5'6"+, and 18 to 24 year olds should at least hit 5'8"+
Next: Nothing specific, but I saw models listed as low as 5'8", and the girl that is arguably the #1 for their agency, Filipa, is famously 5'7"
Ford: Ford Europe requires 5'8+ but, once again, they don't do teens (well, not usually in the womens division). However, there are a whole lot of exceptions, such as Supermodel of the World winners, and America's Next Top Model winners.
Marilyn: Nothing specific, preferably over 5'7"
1 Model Management: Well, considering a board of Liberty Ross, Devon Aoki, and Lydia Hearst, I doubt that they really care as much about height as what will make money. And the American public cares much more about a pretty face than insanely long legs
Women/Supreme: 5'9+, but from what I understand they can be lenient.
DNA: A very, very lenient 5'9+. This is the home of Audrey Marnay, who told vouge magazine that she was 5'6
IMG: Females 5'7 to 6', ages 13 to 21

VERDICT: If you got the look, chances are you have a 94% chance of getting chosen by any of these agencies. Gia Carangi was 5'7, Kate Moss is 5'6.5! When push comes to shove, there is nothing as undeniable as a beautiful face, a gorgeous body, and most importantly DRIVE. And that doesn't come with a pair of long legs.
 

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