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I don't know why some of you don't see Edward at US VOGUE. I can totally see Jonathan wanting to leave his legacy at US VOGUE bmy giving the job to Edward. If Anna left UK Vogue to go to American Vogue, that's totally possible for Edward too even more considering that IMO he hasn't gave a fresh new identity to the magazine.

I can totally see Anna leaving Vogue while being on Top of her power and influence. Maybe she will be more involved with the MET. I think she has the connections to still make it an important event but it's hard to imagine that she could be "only that".
 
I don't know why some of you don't see Edward at US VOGUE. I can totally see Jonathan wanting to leave his legacy at US VOGUE bmy giving the job to Edward. If Anna left UK Vogue to go to American Vogue, that's totally possible for Edward too even more considering that IMO he hasn't gave a fresh new identity to the magazine.

I can totally see Anna leaving Vogue while being on Top of her power and influence. Maybe she will be more involved with the MET. I think she has the connections to still make it an important event but it's hard to imagine that she could be "only that".
 
Ronnie Cooke Newhouse (Jonathan Newhouse's wife) left the following comment on Sarah Mower's recent Instagram about Angela Merkel meeting with members of the German fashion industry...
Yes glad to see at least in Germany they included the British Vogue editor and were inclusive of others not like the the despicable event with Richard Quinn in London where the Queen was set up!

I can't see Anna letting Edward be her successor. Phillip Picardi, Elaine Welteroth, Sally Singer would be my guesses. Picardi is being groomed for this with Teen Vogue and Them.
 
Ronnie Cooke Newhouse (Jonathan Newhouse's wife) left the following comment on Sarah Mower's recent Instagram about Angela Merkel meeting with members of the German fashion industry...
Yes glad to see at least in Germany they included the British Vogue editor and were inclusive of others not like the the despicable event with Richard Quinn in London where the Queen was set up!

I can't see Anna letting Edward be her successor. Phillip Picardi, Elaine Welteroth, Sally Singer would be my guesses. Picardi is being groomed for this with Teen Vogue and Them.
 
That is such a telling comment from Ronnie, wow! Wintours influence has always rattled people, especially those from CN, the power she has gained is resented. And when you see her use it for such power plays, you can see why!

Edward already has the US Vogue job,its a done deal. Just wait......
 
That is such a telling comment from Ronnie, wow! Wintours influence has always rattled people, especially those from CN, the power she has gained is resented. And when you see her use it for such power plays, you can see why!

Edward already has the US Vogue job,its a done deal. Just wait......
 
^ I can definitely believe it. For those desperately wanting Edward out of UK Vogue...what are you honestly expecting in his place? He has swiped a brush of American paint over the already bland, MOR content that Alexandra left in her wake but he brings a lot of clout, and no one can deny that.

Make no mistake, whichever bland editor takes over UK Vogue next will drag it back further into the pedestrian, white-washed hole that Shulman dug it into during her tenure. You really think someone fashion-forward will take it over? Ha!

I don't know what to expect anymore. US Vogue needs a shake-up, but it will be pulled into this already over-bearing indie direction unless someone higher up in CN steers it and other publications in the opposite direction (read: someone who's not Wintour, so hope she's out of her creative director role pronto!) What do I care though...I just want someone to give Fabien something. If it's even worth it anymore that is.
 
^ I can definitely believe it. For those desperately wanting Edward out of UK Vogue...what are you honestly expecting in his place? He has swiped a brush of American paint over the already bland, MOR content that Alexandra left in her wake but he brings a lot of clout, and no one can deny that.

Make no mistake, whichever bland editor takes over UK Vogue next will drag it back further into the pedestrian, white-washed hole that Shulman dug it into during her tenure. You really think someone fashion-forward will take it over? Ha!

I don't know what to expect anymore. US Vogue needs a shake-up, but it will be pulled into this already over-bearing indie direction unless someone higher up in CN steers it and other publications in the opposite direction (read: someone who's not Wintour, so hope she's out of her creative director role pronto!) What do I care though...I just want someone to give Fabien something. If it's even worth it anymore that is.
 
i think it's weird to see Edward leaving BV after a year.But if is true, that was fast!
 
i think it's weird to see Edward leaving BV after a year.But if is true, that was fast!
 
That is such a telling comment from Ronnie, wow! Wintours influence has always rattled people, especially those from CN, the power she has gained is resented. And when you see her use it for such power plays, you can see why!

Edward already has the US Vogue job,its a done deal. Just wait......

So much power and influence for one person is never judged in the right way by everybody.
And as the powerful woman she is, she knows how to make moves in order to appear more powerful. She did the thing she did with Edward in France too. She invited herself at the Dinner at the Elysée...When in France, it's the editor of ELLE that is much more important. And she was treated like a president.

The good thing about her power is that she has been supportive of a lot of people in the industry and it can save her and allow her to have a nice exit.

I'm sorry for Edward but he doesn't have that aura, that popularity! No matter if people loves or hate Anna, they cares about what she is going to do.

And i can totally see the Newhouse wanting someone who is going to be at the service of the magazine and not the way around. Anna just take too much space...
 
That is such a telling comment from Ronnie, wow! Wintours influence has always rattled people, especially those from CN, the power she has gained is resented. And when you see her use it for such power plays, you can see why!

Edward already has the US Vogue job,its a done deal. Just wait......

So much power and influence for one person is never judged in the right way by everybody.
And as the powerful woman she is, she knows how to make moves in order to appear more powerful. She did the thing she did with Edward in France too. She invited herself at the Dinner at the Elysée...When in France, it's the editor of ELLE that is much more important. And she was treated like a president.

The good thing about her power is that she has been supportive of a lot of people in the industry and it can save her and allow her to have a nice exit.

I'm sorry for Edward but he doesn't have that aura, that popularity! No matter if people loves or hate Anna, they cares about what she is going to do.

And i can totally see the Newhouse wanting someone who is going to be at the service of the magazine and not the way around. Anna just take too much space...
 
I'm not surprised by Ronnie's comment, tbh. In fact, maybe Shakespeare was right in saying that Anna blindsided everyone with that event to keep it all to herself. She is such an OG. Lol.

Is it so hard to expect an intensely directional editor installed at British Vogue? Someone who can make it unique and relevant to it's demographic without pilfering brashy American culture? Someone with a love for fashion and journalism? Lucy is a great example, so is Justine (hear me out), and they're not even stylists. Justine's direction may not be liked by most, but one can't deny for what it is and who it's aimed at, it's always perfectly executed and the message is as clear as daylight. Why is it so hard to expect someone like that? Edward woud really be better off there.

The problem with Alexandra's Vogue was than it seemed modeled around her narrow view in more ways than one. There was nothing wrong with her staff in theory except Lucinda. Shulman sounded faintly disparaging about Sarah Harris and her vast collection of clothes. She even bumped heads with Emily because Emily didn't share the idea of putting Federico Marchetti's name, who replaced Natalie Massenet at NAP, on the cover. She admitted that her own staff was happy with the Duchess Kate coup, but disappointed with the overall quality of the special issue. So yeah, I'd say she was a special case and not one to be repeated anytime soon. Here's hoping!

What is interesting though is that in the struggle for gender equality, all the men seems to be getting the EIC positions. I'm saying this with Dennen recently installed at Tatler. Why would the Americans be above such an idea when they've had Tonchi and Baron for God knows how long, and recently gave TeenVogue to Picardi? The gender issue for them is not mutually exclusive from the race issue. I happen to think they'll welcome him with open arms.
 
I'm not surprised by Ronnie's comment, tbh. In fact, maybe Shakespeare was right in saying that Anna blindsided everyone with that event to keep it all to herself. She is such an OG. Lol.

Is it so hard to expect an intensely directional editor installed at British Vogue? Someone who can make it unique and relevant to it's demographic without pilfering brashy American culture? Someone with a love for fashion and journalism? Lucy is a great example, so is Justine (hear me out), and they're not even stylists. Justine's direction may not be liked by most, but one can't deny for what it is and who it's aimed at, it's always perfectly executed and the message is as clear as daylight. Why is it so hard to expect someone like that? Edward woud really be better off there.

The problem with Alexandra's Vogue was than it seemed modeled around her narrow view in more ways than one. There was nothing wrong with her staff in theory except Lucinda. Shulman sounded faintly disparaging about Sarah Harris and her vast collection of clothes. She even bumped heads with Emily because Emily didn't share the idea of putting Federico Marchetti's name, who replaced Natalie Massenet at NAP, on the cover. She admitted that her own staff was happy with the Duchess Kate coup, but disappointed with the overall quality of the special issue. So yeah, I'd say she was a special case and not one to be repeated anytime soon. Here's hoping!

What is interesting though is that in the struggle for gender equality, all the men seems to be getting the EIC positions. I'm saying this with Dennen recently installed at Tatler. Why would the Americans be above such an idea when they've had Tonchi and Baron for God knows how long, and recently gave TeenVogue to Picardi? The gender issue for them is not mutually exclusive from the race issue. I happen to think they'll welcome him with open arms.
 
Amy Astley has basically turned Architectural Digest into Vogue so she is clearly auditioning for the job. :rolleyes:
 
Amy Astley has basically turned Architectural Digest into Vogue so she is clearly auditioning for the job. :rolleyes:
 
I wonder how someone like Tonne must feel or whether she had harboured any hopes of becoming EIC! Right now the fashion world may be waiting in bated breath when or if Anna will leave, but once Tonne's out at that magazine, the new EIC may as well start from scratch. Her contribution, to the latest issue, is immeasurable.
 
I wonder how someone like Tonne must feel or whether she had harboured any hopes of becoming EIC! Right now the fashion world may be waiting in bated breath when or if Anna will leave, but once Tonne's out at that magazine, the new EIC may as well start from scratch. Her contribution, to the latest issue, is immeasurable.
 
I don't believe Edward will get the job, not for lack of trying on his part, but because his appointment wouldn't fly here in the US, not with all the gender mess going on. A man leading the supposed #1 women's publication? I think not and CN won't risk the backlash. But you can clearly see how hard he's trying, with his cover options and flaunting of his famous friends. It's a solid strategy though and under different circumstances - time period - it would work. CN already has male editors at Vogue Italia, Arabia, Polska, etc.

This argument kinda makes sense. It will definitely be an uphill battle to get the job.

What is interesting though is that in the struggle for gender equality, all the men seems to be getting the EIC positions. I'm saying this with Dennen recently installed at Tatler. Why would the Americans be above such an idea when they've had Tonchi and Baron for God knows how long, and recently gave TeenVogue to Picardi? The gender issue for them is not mutually exclusive from the race issue. I happen to think they'll welcome him with open arms.

The fight for gender equality found its way back in the US (as a hot topic) after the elections. Its a very sensitive issue these days. Tonchi has been given the job long before the resurgence of the movement. Meanwhile Picardi was given Teen Vogue, albeit recently, only during its digital age (when the magazine has reached its demise, let's be honest). Heck he's not even considered as the Editor-in-Chief, but only the Chief Content Officer. Teen Vogue barely constitutes as a magazine these days. I cannot comment that much on Dennen, together with all the other international male editors, since I hardly know anything about the sociopolitical climate in those countries.

I'm a man, and I may get a lot of hate from this, but let's be honest, the male editors are doing a miserable job. Vogue Italia, UK Vogue, Vogue Thailand have really been bad lately, and Vogue Poland barely has an identity (notwithstanding the fact that there's only been a few issues out). Tonchi's W Magazine is still a disaster.

Having said that,

I actually forgot about Amy and Elaine! Goodness these two will definitely be a part of the short list.

I found it really odd that she moved from Teen Vogue to Architectural Design. Reminds me of Anna Wintour's move from UK Vogue to House and Garden. I honestly believe that they moved Amy away from Teen Vogue so that her name won't be tarnished when Teen Vogue ceases its print publication. You don't want to be called as the editor who ran the magazine down to its digital edition.

Elaine on the other hand would be a great editor... but not now. She's too young for such a herculean role. Maybe she can replace Tonchi and get some more practice over at W Magazine (assuming it doesn't cease publication).
 
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I don't believe Edward will get the job, not for lack of trying on his part, but because his appointment wouldn't fly here in the US, not with all the gender mess going on. A man leading the supposed #1 women's publication? I think not and CN won't risk the backlash. But you can clearly see how hard he's trying, with his cover options and flaunting of his famous friends. It's a solid strategy though and under different circumstances - time period - it would work. CN already has male editors at Vogue Italia, Arabia, Polska, etc.

This argument kinda makes sense. It will definitely be an uphill battle to get the job.

What is interesting though is that in the struggle for gender equality, all the men seems to be getting the EIC positions. I'm saying this with Dennen recently installed at Tatler. Why would the Americans be above such an idea when they've had Tonchi and Baron for God knows how long, and recently gave TeenVogue to Picardi? The gender issue for them is not mutually exclusive from the race issue. I happen to think they'll welcome him with open arms.

The fight for gender equality found its way back in the US (as a hot topic) after the elections. Its a very sensitive issue these days. Tonchi has been given the job long before the resurgence of the movement. Meanwhile Picardi was given Teen Vogue, albeit recently, only during its digital age (when the magazine has reached its demise, let's be honest). Heck he's not even considered as the Editor-in-Chief, but only the Chief Content Officer. Teen Vogue barely constitutes as a magazine these days. I cannot comment that much on Dennen, together with all the other international male editors, since I hardly know anything about the sociopolitical climate in those countries.

I'm a man, and I may get a lot of hate from this, but let's be honest, the male editors are doing a miserable job. Vogue Italia, UK Vogue, Vogue Thailand have really been bad lately, and Vogue Poland barely has an identity (notwithstanding the fact that there's only been a few issues out). Tonchi's W Magazine is still a disaster.

Having said that,

I actually forgot about Amy and Elaine! Goodness these two will definitely be a part of the short list.

I found it really odd that she moved from Teen Vogue to Architectural Design. Reminds me of Anna Wintour's move from UK Vogue to House and Garden. I honestly believe that they moved Amy away from Teen Vogue so that her name won't be tarnished when Teen Vogue ceases its print publication. You don't want to be called as the editor who ran the magazine down to its digital edition.

Elaine on the other hand would be a great editor... but not now. She's too young for such a herculean role. Maybe she can replace Tonchi and get some more practice over at W Magazine (assuming it doesn't cease publication).
 
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