The Pope dies

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I do not like the things he stood for ( some of them ), or (strict)catholic church, but I do believe that he has gotten peace now.
 
I love the way he bridged gaps between all religions, and tried to heal wars within the Church itself. When he came to Liverpool he visited both Catholic and Anglican churches, I thought that was very noble of him. It's funny, he lead such a conservative church but he reached out to young people so enthusiastically.I've also heard so many anecdotes about his sense of humor, for example from Jim Caveziel (sp?) on Larry King last night, who was describing their conversation when he met him after filming "The Passion..." :

Jim: You know, I've always thought Jesus was Italian.
Pope: Why so?
Jim: He lived at home until he was 30, he hung around with 12 other men, his mother thought he was God.
Pope: aahhh, hmm.
Jim: You don't think so?
Pope: Nahh, I just always thought he was Polish.

I also think it was amazing the way he was completely unchanging in his beliefs in a world where he could have been more pressurized to be modern. When he started out in Poland, he had a group of young people he would preach to, and afterwards when two of them got married and had kids, the father went to him (the Pope, then still in Poland) and told him they had two kids, they couldn't afford anymore, what should they do about birth control? He told him he was too old to change his views : the couple should find another confessor to go to. It may have seemed harsh but there is a lot to be admired in his unflexibility. I did not agree with many of the things he preached and taught, but I believed in the way he taught them, and I admire his adamance.

I'm a Hindu, and I still admired and adored him. I pray he's found peace, and may God rest his soul.
 
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Elli said:
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Meeting Mehmet Ali Agca, who shot him, in prison 1993.

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With Bob Dylan 1997.


And I like this one because of the dove.

I did not know that is was a muslim who shot the Pope. It anngers me.

I love Bob Dylan and all but it seems as though him and the Pope were quite "different" :lol:

As I look at the pictures of him I think he was a very handsome man. :blush:
 
CelineChic said:
I did not know that is was a muslim who shot the Pope. It anngers me.

Sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick here(please tell me if I do) but why should it matter what religion he was? He shot him at the end of the day.
 
It really shows how devout he is that he visited the man who shot him and forgave him. Inspires me.
 
I'm not religious at all but i'm finding this so very sad because religous or not this man seemed to have been so forgiving. I'm glad he's at peace now.
 
what a sad day :cry:

in spite of being atheist, i loved him and admired him so much..i feel bad i never got to meet him.:(
 
he was such a cute baby
and what a gentle looking gentleman
one of the kindest
i'm glad he was our pope! :smile:
 
scblonndie said:
It really shows how devout he is that he visited the man who shot him and forgave him. Inspires me.

YEs, probably one of the most inspiring act of forgiveness. RIP Papa
 
Yoo hoo people! The pope hated the gays and spoke out against them all the time. This is a fashion oriented site (ie. gay oriented site). How can you be so quick to overlook the fact that he hated the gays and said they were sinners and an abomination? He wasn't as lovey dovey as you are fooled into thinking. And he was against the use of condoms, even if used to prevent the spread of aids amongst heterosexuals.
 
haruki said:
Yoo hoo people! The pope hated the gays and spoke out against them all the time. This is a fashion oriented site (ie. gay oriented site). How can you be so quick to overlook the fact that he hated the gays and said they were sinners and an abomination? He wasn't as lovey dovey as you are fooled into thinking. And he was against the use of condoms, even if used to prevent the spread of aids amongst heterosexuals.
I'm not Catholic, nor do I agree with a lot of the Church's teachings. But, the man meant a lot to a lot of people (including people on this board), and he just died a few hours ago! Maybe this not a good time to start a debate.

Also, while his stance was against gays, it's not really reasonable to say he hated them.
 
Haruki,

The Pope was a man of peace and love.He may not had agreed with the homosexual lifestyel but that doesn't mean he hated them.In the Bible it states that homosexuality is wrong.He was a CHRISTIAN so of course he would go along with what th Bible says.As a Christian myself,i'm greatly sadden by this lost.He was a great man who preached peace and love for EVERYONE.I'm against gay-marriage and all that stuff as well, but i have many gay friends.I love them just as much as i love my heterosexual friends.So saying that because he disagreed with that lifestyle means he hated them shows your ignorance.

I don't agree with everything he has said.I believe in birth-control and condoms.I'm against abortion and sadly most people don't practice abstinence till marriage so abortion rates are high.So i support anything that will prevent a girl from getting pregnant.

So please be more sensitive with your comments.
 
Kalista said:
Sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick here(please tell me if I do) but why should it matter what religion he was? He shot him at the end of the day.

It angers me because its people like him who give the rest of us Muslims a "bad name". Its people like him who make security finger print my brother every time he travels.
 
haruki said:
Yoo hoo people! The pope hated the gays and spoke out against them all the time. This is a fashion oriented site (ie. gay oriented site). How can you be so quick to overlook the fact that he hated the gays and said they were sinners and an abomination? He wasn't as lovey dovey as you are fooled into thinking. And he was against the use of condoms, even if used to prevent the spread of aids amongst heterosexuals.

Not once did he ever say that he hated ANYONE. He had beliefs. I'm sure you have them too whether religious or not.

I don't think that Gay and Fashion go together. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with fashion. That is quite a stereotype you have of people that are into fashion.
 
CelineChic said:
It angers me because its people like him who give the rest of us Muslims a "bad name". Its people like him who make security finger print my brother every time he travels.

Oh, thanks for clearing it up:flower:. And I agree, I hate how some people do something and it sets a bad example on the people who happen to share the same nationality, religion etc.

I liked the last pic Elli posted of the pope with the dove. It's kinda heartwarming in a way.
 
Aren't you guys happy that he has gone to heaven? I mean that was his ultimate goal anyway, to meet his maker. I'm sure he died with a smile on his face.
 
I'm not sure there is such a thing as heaven but I'm happy he's at peace now and no longer suffering.
 
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