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Guessgirl96 said:
the pig stomach lining stuff found in some chocolate bars

are you serious?!? why would anyone put pig stomach lining in chocolate? that should be a crime! :sick::yuk: do you know what it's called on ingredient labels? i want to try and avoid it :innocent:
 
I know!! I've searched on the internet to try and find what it is, but i cant find it :cry:

I just found out what gelatin was made of, and lets just say I won't be eating Jello again.. :lol:
 
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the pig stomach lining is called rennet. I know mars was planning on using it in their chocolate but changed their plans. I've heard though that other chocolate manufacturers still use it.

I knew gelatin is in jello and marshmellows but I had no idea they use it it in some pizza?! Someone metnioned that on the last page. I was wondering what else its in.
 
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Okay, now I knew what rennet was, but I've never heard of it being in chocolate! :sick: I thought it was only used in dairy products..

Gelatin is used in shampoos, face masks, and other cosmetics; as a thickener for fruit gelatins and puddings (such as Jell-O); in candies, marshmallows, cakes, ice cream, and yogurts; on photographic film; in vitamins as a coating and as capsules; and it is sometimes used to assist in "clearing" wines
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I think it's just used as a thickening agent.. so basically anything that needs thickening could have gelatin in it..?
 
My turn to vent. :D Isn't it annoying when you find meat hidden inside dishes that should be vegetarian-friendly? A month or so ago, my family ate at an Italian restaurant where I ordered mushroom and cheese ravioli (one of the few dishes that didn't include meat). When I received the meal, I found pieces of bacon hidden inside. :yuk: I don't see why putting bacon in a mushroom/cheese ravioli was necessary; not to mention, I'm not sure why they didn't feel the need to include on the menu that meat was in the dish.

Hmm, that's really strange. Most restaurants try to be really really careful with that kind of stuff, because there are people who are vegetarian for religious reasons and things like that (especially with bacon, since there are many who can't eat pork products because of religious reasons).

I used to be vegan, and when that would happen to me (not very often) I would tell the waiter (In a polite "Oh I'm sorry, I thought this was vegan/vegetarian, but it seems to have some meat in it" way, not a "You gave me the flesh of dead animals you moron" way :p) and they were always fine with that.

Anyway, I'm not a vegan/vegetarian any more. Although I don't eat meat all that often, and I only eat meat I get from a ranch at the farmers market, so I know that the animals weren't factory farmed.

But to the Vegans/Veggies. . .have you guys tried nutritional yeast? It sounds gross I know, but it tastes really good and is reeallly good for you. It has a kind of nutty/cheese-y taste and is great to put on pasta or on popcorn (my favorite).
 
I was reading through a list about animal ingredients and there are so many hidden animal products in different foods, beauty products and household items, its crazy!!! Threre's so much crap in perfume, I'm shocked.. I'm going to try and buy something all natural. And chewing gum is terrible too!

Anyway here's some off that list I was reading that shocked me the most. HERE is the link if you want to read more.
Ambergris.
From whale intestines. Used as a fixative in making perfumes and as a flavoring in foods and beverages. Alternatives: synthetic or vegetable fixatives.

Blood.
From any slaughtered animal. Used as adhesive in plywood, also found in cheese-making, foam rubber, intravenous feedings, and medicines. Possibly in foods such as lecithin. Alternatives: synthetics, plant sources.

Bone Char.
Animal bone ash. Used in bone china and often to make sugar white. Serves as the charcoal used in aquarium filters. Alternatives: synthetic tribasic calcium phosphate.

Bone Meal.
Crushed or ground animal bones. In some fertilizers. In some vitamins and supplements as a source of calcium. In toothpastes. Alternatives: plant mulch, vegetable compost, dolomite, clay, vegetarian vitamins.

Castor. Castoreum.
Creamy substance with strong odor from muskrat and beaver genitals. Used as a fixative in perfume and incense. Alternatives: synthetics, plant castor oil.

Musk (Oil).
Dried secretion painfully obtained from musk deer, beaver, muskrat, civet cat, and otter genitals. Wild cats are kept captive in cages in horrible conditions and are whipped around the genitals to produce the scent; beavers are trapped; deer are shot. In perfumes and in food flavorings. Alternatives: labdanum oil (which comes from various rockrose shrubs) and other plants with a musky scent.

Stearic Acid.
Fat from cows and sheep and from dogs and cats euthanized in animal shelters, etc. Most often refers to a fatty substance taken from the stomachs of pigs. Can be harsh, irritating. Used in cosmetics, soaps, lubricants, candles, hairspray, conditioners, deodorants, creams, chewing gum, food flavoring. Derivatives: Stearamide, Stearamine, Stearates, Stearic Hydrazide, Stearone, Stearoxytrimethylsilane, Stearoyl Lactylic Acid, Stearyl Betaine, Stearyl Imidazoline. Alternatives: Stearic acid can be found in many vegetable fats, coconut.

Urea. Carbamide.
Excreted from urine and other bodily fluids. In deodorants, ammoniated dentifrices, mouthwashes, hair colorings, hand creams, lotions, shampoos, etc. Used to "brown" baked goods, such as pretzels. Derivatives: Imidazolidinyl Urea, Uric Acid. Alternatives: synthetics.
 
Blood.
From any slaughtered animal. Used as adhesive in plywood, also found in cheese-making, foam rubber, intravenous feedings, and medicines. Possibly in foods such as lecithin. Alternatives: synthetics, plant sources.

It's strange to think that blood could be found in medicine. Thanks for posting that list. ;)
 
the pig stomach lining is called rennet. I know mars was planning on using it in their chocolate but changed their plans. I've heard though that other chocolate manufacturers still use it.

I knew gelatin is in jello and marshmellows but I had no idea they use it it in some pizza?! Someone metnioned that on the last page. I was wondering what else its in.

I think rennet comes from the lining of young calf stomachs, I've never heard of the pig stomach lining thing.

Some people don't eat meat because they find it repulsive, whereas they don't find the taste of fish repulsive. Some people tell themselves that it's okay to eat fish because they're not cute and cuddly mammals and have no rights at all as a species (refer to speciesism). Others don't believe fish farming has an impact on the environment. Others feel that the healthiest diet includes fish. Most of the time, I think people just don't want to make that final sacrifice.
 
For those of you who eat a dish and then later find out it has some animal product in it, don't beat yourself up over it. You didn't know, it's not your fault. Just use it as a lesson. Now you know that product has animal in it, so you won't have it again.

Unfortunately this happens quite a lot. Especially the way they put down numbers instead of the actual ingredient these days. It can be very hard to tell what you're getting. Just make the effort to eat right, and with time, you'll find everything you get is animal free as you know what you can and can't have.
 
The worst thing is that if you've been a strict vegetarian for years, animal products can really wreak havoc on the system...also it feels somehow as if you can't trust people to respect your choices, the paranoia sets in...AHHH!!!
 
Can I ask you a question? I am a vegetarian, but not because I like animals (I mean, I like them, but that's not the reason) - for medical issues, so I do not eat fish. I
would like to know why some people refuse to eat meat and still eat fish? Where is the difference, in fact? Is that because red meat trade is perceived as more cruel? (Cod fishing is the most barbaric thing ever, and it's terrible for the environment), or is it because fish "meat" is not really seen as "meat" (don't know if that's clear).

Please, enlighten me :)

for me...simply cos i love fish...
 
Is rennet in all cheeses? I often see gelatin listed as an ingredient in products so I know to steer clear, but I never have seen rennet listed, and I'm kind of curious how one is supposed to tell if it is in a product.
 
We buy cheeses from Whole Foods (you could probably get them at any health food store). On the packaging it says Rennet-Free. Some say it on the front, others on the back. I think unless it specifically says Rennet-Free, the product will contain rennet (alothough, like you said, it may not be listed in the ingredients). :flower:
 
I eat fish, and I'm a pescetarian for that reason (a vegetarian that eats fish). I basically only eat salmon, tuna, mahi mahi, and the occasional shrimp. I do this because:

1. Salmon is very healthy for you, provided it's wild salmon.

2. If I didn't eat fish, there would be next to nothing I could eat while I'm up at college in NH, unless I wanted to exist solely on salad and bread. I need protein, and buying my own food daily like tofu or tempeh while I have an expensive meal plan to pay for is NOT going to happen. So I rely on tuna and salmon from the college cafeteria for a great deal of my protein while I'm at college.
 

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