wendylorene
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Paloma's cover is amazing, Rosalia's is a close second. Frances and Naomi just aren't my cup of tea but they aren't horrible imo.
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That's what I mean, that's enough for Vogue. The idea that you have to go through some long preamble of stardom prepping you up for ~the big moment~, an American Vogue cover, where does that fantasy prevail post, I don't know, 1996?.. just among commercial fashion enthusiasts. The singer in question here has won something (as opposed to just being nominated), a Grammy, whatever that means these days (just like the Oscars..).Don't bring Florence into this, lol! She was nominated for an Oscar at the time. All the other English girls had one or the other big moment going for them at the time too.
That's what I mean, that's enough for Vogue. The idea that you have to go through some long preamble of stardom prepping you up for ~the big moment~, an American Vogue cover, where does that fantasy prevail post, I don't know, 1996?.. just among commercial fashion enthusiasts. The singer in question here has won something (as opposed to just being nominated), a Grammy, whatever that means these days (just like the Oscars..).
I could've used Blake or my favorite example of Vogue's insignificance: Kate Hudson . Though it's really the English actresses' appearances that are often more perplexing for me.. never mind good ol' tfs logic "A singer popular in America in an American magazine targeted to an American public? but I've never heard of her in Slovakia, what's the point of giving her a cover if no one knows her then?", it's Ana's "let's see which new British actress is trying to break America and give her that final push" what often seems way too charitable and ill-advised.. but hey, if she keeps doing that, it must be working out, right?.. so this (isn't music being more profitable than movies?) will probably turn out even better since Rosalía doesn't really need Vogue's helping hand, more the other way around. Vogue's really just so starved and miserable, to tell you for decades that you're the tangible value you can afford to wear and having to branch out now with moral values, lmao, who knew values are not foundation.. hm yeah I took some samples from work I never returned, poached clients for my personal business, terminated people because their skin was.. funny, but then I bought Vogue and values just seemed so cool and like it was the right time for such an important conversation, bless Vogue for the reminder..
I am not a big Kate Hudson stan, but in her defence she did get an Oscar nomination.Gosh, Kate Hudson was the Hailey Baldwin of the 2000s, and let’s not pretend that her brand of blonde white next door wasn’t the reason of her ubiquity, other than the fact that she built her career upon nepotism as well. I do applaud her for making good use of nepotism by actually putting in the work though, even if most of her films are intolerable, romcom trashes.
Ok ok so good for Kate Hudson covers and so good for Rosalia’s cover, both talented women and capable to generate love and hate. Now, let’s move on...
Rosalia has a Grammy
So does Chris Brown. A Grammy doesn't actually mean anything, it's not on the same level as the Oscars. It's just an opportunity for pop stars to dress in the tackiest looks once a year.
All awards are pointless and I believe both Grammys and the Oscars frequently favor mediocrity over true greatness but to undervalue Grammys’ impact and overvalue Oscars’ is downright bizarre. Like Hitchcock has never won an Oscar for any category while the guys who directed Green Book have.
In terms of actresses, well, there’s plenty of underserved wins that came off like a bunch of laughing stocks. Where do I start? Meryl Streep in The Iron Lady, Sandra Bullock in The Blind Side, oh and Kate Winslet in The Reader. They all do have US Vogue covers though, which solidifies the notion that winning an Oscar is an audition to get recognized by Anna even more.
Can someone ID this dress? It's stunning! Can't be Vuitton, surely.
I am Australian living in the Uk and have no idea who she is or who Travis Scott is. But I am not such a fan of pop music. Anyway she looks nice but I don't understand what the 'values' are here?this tfs idea that she’s too unknown for a Vogue cover is just baffling haha if you know Travis Scott, then you know Rosalia and everyone knows Travis Scott and his songs with Rosalia!, I get people into fashion tend not to be quite up to date with music but this is current pop culture’s 101.
Not quite saying you live under a rock if you don’t know her or that sHe’z tHe QUEeN of pOp, just saying she’s more than well-known if you follow popular music and if ‘up-and-coming actress with a British passport’ tends to be more than enough for Ana, this should should perform well on newsstands even without the Super Bowl..
All awards are pointless and I believe both Grammys and the Oscars frequently favor mediocrity over true greatness but to undervalue Grammys’ impact and overvalue Oscars’ is downright bizarre. Like Hitchcock has never won an Oscar for any category while the guys who directed Green Book have.
Like Viola Davis has never had a US Vogue cover while the girl who married Justin Bieber has.
It’s all interchangeable and pointless in the end
I am Australian living in the Uk and have no idea who she is or who Travis Scott is. But I am not such a fan of pop music. Anyway she looks nice but I don't understand what the 'values' are here?
guess it depends on the country and why I mentioned relevancy in the US.. there was no way of not knowing people like Travis Scott when I lived in LA.. and it wasn’t the Kardashian association, it was just everywhere, it’s playing in stores, at work, coffee shops, clubs, parties, passing cars, at the gym all.the.time, friends, unless you’re deaf or have your trash filter on at all times lol, you’re humming to it before you notice... even Rosalia, a client (white, in her late 50s, she does in work in entertainment but still not at all Rosalia’s target demographic) was actually the first person that recommended her to me in mid 2018. I understand hip-hop (and now reggaeton- both worlds Rosalia has dived into) isn’t a thing in most places, or remains something associated with.. poor areas or crime maybe?, but it is as mainstream as it gets in major US cities.I am Australian living in the Uk and have no idea who she is or who Travis Scott is. But I am not such a fan of pop music. Anyway she looks nice but I don't understand what the 'values' are here?
It's a discussion board, How do we move on? We just stop discussing things? How bout maybe open another thread if you're tired of this particular discussion. There's literally thousands on here. One might engage you better. Just sayin.
It’s
Earth (Frances)
Wind (Naomi)
Water (Paloma)
Fire (Rosalia)
no?