US Vogue November 2019 : Rihanna by Ethan James Green

I was just lamenting the fact they didn’t use another model! I love the styling and most of the shots are beautiful, but I think that’s on the strength of Mikael and Tonne, I don’t think she’s bringing anything to the table.

Exactly! The editorial itself is beautiful, but a stronger model would've taken this to iconic status. Some shots exposed Kaia's weak modelling skills... gurl was just standing there in one shot, but she gave face although the posture was off.

Vittoria would have killed this.
 
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Photographed by Stefan Ruiz
Fashion Editor: Jorden Bickham
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Photographer: Mohamed Bourouissa, Nigel Shafran, Pieter Hugo & Stefan Ruiz
Fashion Editor: Alex Harrington & Jorden Bickham

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Kaia is giving me major young Karlie Kloss vibes and I'm loving it. I can see her getting the cover soon.
 
Ugbad's editorial is STUNNING. Anna producing consecutive good issues? Kill me now
 
Nothing speaks to me! I'd go so far as to say this is their worst issue of the year as a whole. Maybe Kendall's editorial, sans the animal print shot, is the strongest in this issue and more in line with the identity of American Vogue. And the Lindbergh tribute is as disappointing as Karl's - it just doesn't befit his stature and contribution to this magazine. I know she'll say she doesnt have the pages to free up, but then trim the main edits to 8 pages each and delve deep in your archive for rare, unpublished Lindbergh shots (since we all know she demands the entire film of everyone who shoots for her, lol.) The rest are all very scattered. Anna needs to get a new CD whose sole focus is to pivot this magazine and to rediscover their point of view. You have Tonne with one foot out and one foot in, and Camilla and Jorden who seem to function with way too much creative freedom, and every now and then Carlos and Alex pops in. Not enough, and too incoherent.

I know she wants to guide the contemporary conversation, but it seems she's diluting Vogue's identity in the process and therefore only following the wave, not defining it. If you're elitist, which Vogue is, the embrace that fact and go all out.
 
I like the issue but it just seems like a single very long editorial which I wouldn’t mind necessarily if last month and next month wouldn’t look exactly the same. If they would pivot each month to something new, I would appreciate fully cohesive issues like this a lot more.
 
Nothing speaks to me! I'd go so far as to say this is their worst issue of the year as a whole. Maybe Kendall's editorial, sans the animal print shot, is the strongest in this issue and more in line with the identity of American Vogue. And the Lindbergh tribute is as disappointing as Karl's - it just doesn't befit his stature and contribution to this magazine. I know she'll say she doesnt have the pages to free up, but then trim the main edits to 8 pages each and delve deep in your archive for rare, unpublished Lindbergh shots (since we all know she demands the entire film of everyone who shoots for her, lol.) The rest are all very scattered. Anna needs to get a new CD whose sole focus is to pivot this magazine and to rediscover their point of view. You have Tonne with one foot out and one foot in, and Camilla and Jorden who seem to function with way too much creative freedom, and every now and then Carlos and Alex pops in. Not enough, and too incoherent.

I know she wants to guide the contemporary conversation, but it seems she's diluting Vogue's identity in the process and therefore only following the wave, not defining it. If you're elitist, which Vogue is, the embrace that fact and go all out.

Anna’s Vogue has long long long ceased to be anything remotely resembling elitist high fashion vision and you’re 30 years late for noticing that now, Benn. Criticizing Anna’s Vogue for this is like demanding valet service at WalMart.

It is what it is: A women’s Vanity Fair when it comes to their celebrity main features— with the rest of the content being typical department-store accessibel/inclusive to the commoners. And I assure you that if you ask anyone on the street in any given US city which aesthetic is preferred: Anna’s or say, my wife Emmanuelle’s, you’d get an astounding majority going for Anna’s. So job well done, Mz Winters. She knows exactly what the commoners want. She’s not here for us elitists with our sharp and pointed preferences: There aren't enough of us to make her Vogue the best seller of them all.
 
Anna’s Vogue has long long long ceased to be anything remotely resembling elitist high fashion vision and you’re 30 years late for noticing that now, Benn. Criticizing Anna’s Vogue for this is like demanding valet service at WalMart.

It is what it is: A women’s Vanity Fair when it comes to their celebrity main features— with the rest of the content being typical department-store accessibel/inclusive to the commoners. And I assure you that if you ask anyone on the street in any given US city which aesthetic is preferred: Anna’s or say, my wife Emmanuelle’s, you’d get an astounding majority going for Anna’s. So job well done, Mz Winters. She knows exactly what the commoners want. She’s not here for us elitists with our sharp and pointed preferences: There aren't enough of us to make her Vogue the best seller of them all.

Your argument has a major flaw in referencing Emmanuelle. Alt has one point of reference: 1980’s.
 
^^^ And still she's able to it so well. Issue after issue, year after year. The lessers (the rest of the Vogues) could only dream of keeping up with her.
 
That picture Is verry Avedon.

Too right, and I could've done with the whole entire editorial being of a similar nature. There are some nice images to come from Kaia's editorial but I do severely dislike how incoherent the story is. The gorgeousness of the Avedon-esque shot sure does compensate, though.

Also thrilled to see Ugbad Abdi solo in her story, and I'm also pretty fond of Kendall Jenner's editorial too - love the black and white shot of Jenner in the houndstooth coat. This appears to be another solid issue of US Vogue!
 
I stopped my Vogue subscription the moment Kate Upton got the cover, that was my limit. I had been a long time Vogue fan and follower and admirer and I had soooo many issues that I collected from Ebay and subscribed for years. And then came the wave of the instagirls and Kim´s cover and then Kendall´s and all these stupid moments in fashion. So I knew, right there: Anna Wintour became a follower and no longer was able to offer the REAL bible of Fashion that it once was.

Anna biggest problem for me is that she wants to cater US Vogue to Generation Z. Because they are big consumers and they are the generation who lives 24/7 online but that particular generation doesn´t spend money on Vogue and it doesn´t buy newspapers or magazines, they don´t even download magazines on their tablets, their just copy/paste covers and ``cool looking´´ images and put them on social networks. Don´t ask any of them who is Verushka or Richard Avedon or to describe the aesthetic of Christian Dior lol. So Anna does´t not only grasp that this generation is not buying her magazine but she also lost her loyal generation of 30year-old+ people who like me used to buy, eat, breathe and live Vogue and who used to know about every fashion designer, every collection, supermodel, photographer, stylists of this industry.

The US Vogue issues for many years now only showcase mediocre stories. I totally agree with Benn98. Nothing feels exciting, the cover subjects although have changed and thank god for diversity but it´s stale. However Phuel to me it´s not just that there aren´t too many of us from that ``breed´´ of crazy die-hard-fan lifetime Vogue readers who knows about designers and supers and who see every collections and wants to see the Vogue stamp of quality, prestige and authority (which has vanished from other magazines eons ago lol) BUT it´s the whole world of fashion that seems asepticized and so plain:
- all the models look the same,
- editorials are always either a copy of something or super intellectual s*** that is just weird because but not showcasing real clothes
- big name photographers have been let go for obvious reasons
- editors do the full on look and are too lazy to mix brands
- designers became stars again and so it´s more about them than their clothes
- the shows are available the second they finish so we consume them and forget about them because the fashion calendar is fuller than ever with couture, cruise, men, kids and other collections to the original pret-à-porter

Ultimately Anna could change her formula to what it once was: REAL supermodels, amazing historic editorials which may look very removed from our reality but bring dream and inspiration for readers, designers, students and people alike but as people said: the boring US Vogue of today still sells so I guess it will remain like that til a major change happens, or Anna´s replacement comes or digital takes over for good and the print edition of Vogue is no longer needed.
 

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