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[Lonewalker]

I love real fur. It's so soft and luxurious. I just bought myself a new black rabbit fur hat. It's gorgeous.

I am sad about the fact that animals get killed so cruelly, but I try not to think about it. After all, THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO about you. And people have been wearing fur for thousands of years.

I know alot of people will hate me because of my comments, but as someone said before, I expect my opinion to be respected.

 

[PetitPuppy]

I don't mind fake nor real... Sometimes fake just doesn't do it...
Surely, I wouldn't want animals to die of painful deaths...

I especially like fur of Black Fox... I look amazing in it!
It's my lifestyle choice, just like eating meat... And I expect it to be respected.

The more the likes of Heather Mills push their opinions on ppl, the more i like fur...
Who does she think she is? She's fighting for animals and ends up treating humans like sh*t.
It's like that timeless battle betwee Bardot and Loren...
It's ironic how Bardot hates humans, yet she is so sympathetic of the animal world... What a hypocrite...

Your right. Everybody should threat others with respect.
But I don't think THE FACT has to be respected that you and others wear fur. I respect you as a person but not the fact that you're wearing fur. I'm sorry but fur isn't as necessary as eating meal and not that PAINFUL.
Have you any idea how these animals are killed???

 

[victoriandoll]

^^ I totally agree with you PetitPuppy. Eating meat is different although the treatment that the animals go through is pretty much just as bad (unless you buy free range but even then, most of the time it isnt REALLY free range).

People are very ignorant about the way animals are treated and it's a shame. I bet if even the biggest meat eating/fur wearing person actually SAW up close what these animals go through they would become vegan on the spot. But then again, there are people who actually do these things to animals to make money, which is sick.

Survival is one thing, but no one needs fur to survive anymore (at least not in most places of the world).

 

[Chachka]

Your right. Everybody should threat others with respect.
But I don't think THE FACT has to be respected that you and others wear fur. I respect you as a person but not the fact that you're wearing fur. I'm sorry but fur isn't as necessary as eating meal and not that PAINFUL.
Have you any idea how these animals are killed???

How is it different?

As long as animals don't die painfully, I'm okay with eating meat and wearing fur. And I see no difference.

Or do you think that animals that are eaten all die in bliss?

And what I meant is that my choice to wear fur, my lifestyle should be respected, without any of the anti-fur bigots approaching me on the street and telling me what a horrible person I am or threatening to splash paint on my coat...
That actually happened to one of my friends, and SHE WAS WEARING FAKE FUR!!!
I don't like people imposing their lifestyle choices on others. That's all.

 

[Heri]

I don't wear fur, real or fake it doesn't matter expecially because when they say fake sometimes come from animals very near to us like cats or dogs... even if it looks so soft and warm I think that nowadays we can wear a lot of things very fashion, warm and beautiful without using animal's fur!!!
Is so cruel how they kill those poor animals just to let people go around with a fur coat!!! This is not right! The animals can't defens their self, they can't do anything.

 

[tott]

how wrong is that!! the bloke/women (no one really know what he is n e more) is actually wearing a gorilla!! and endangerd species!!!

I love fur and wear some, but not from endangered species. That's just wrong.

 

[twilight fairy]

We wouldn't feel anything because we would be dead...
But, surely you got it all backwards...It's always been survival of the fittest.
If our ancestors had attitudes like yours, human species wouldn't survive, let alone evolve...

Except now we live in the modern world, and there are many alternatives to fur.

 

[Chachka]

Except now we live in the modern world, and there are many alternatives to fur.

True, which is why we wear considerably less of it.
BTW, I forgot to say that seeing baby seals' fur on somebody's car seats breaks my heart... It's not all black and white.

 

[blissfulina]

FUR FUR FUR -- where do you stand??

ever since i decided i wanted to pursue a career in fashion design, whether or not to use fur was always a big issue for me. not only fur but also croc and python, angora..and only until recently, leather because i recently became a vegetarian. and with problems like the horrible dog and cat fur trade in china that deliberately mislabels their fur, you wont know what youre buying, whether its a beaver/mink/fox or whatever, ...or "man's best friend". please, what do you think?? thanks

 

[incogneato]

Definetaly NO!!!! I think it's disguisting and wrong, I just can't stand animal cruelty!

 

[dorien]

just cause you wanna eat the burger, doesn't mean you wanna meet the cow. i think most people have this mentality.

i don't wear fur, but i also don't hate.

 

[eternitygoddess]

I just DON'T understand why people go around wearing real fur when fake fur looks and feels the same. Do they want to show off how much $$$ they got or something?

 

[gruveechik]

i hope somehow to have a middle ground...

i think if we use domesticated animals and kill (yes... there's no pretty word for that) them as humanely as possible.. in order to use their:
- flesh as meat
- skin as leather
- fur as fur
then i think that's far better than using wild/endangered animals for pure vanity - and much better than us killing animals inhumanely for their flesh, skin & meat.

i also believe that natives (eg. First-Nations and the Inuit in Canada) have their right to hunt in order to create fur coats for their own purposes. They use pretty much every part of the animal and have the vested interest of making sure that the species never becomes endangered. It is also in their interest to practice conservation. i'd much rather that than people killing leopards/cheetah etc NOW for their furs.. given that these animals are endangered.

i am physically unable to be a vegetarian (strange illness) so i must survive on meat on an almost daily basis.

i wear leather shoes because i.m.o. PVC products are worse in the long run, due to the plastics required and the long-term toxicity on the wearer and on the environment.

Therefore, i am not wholeheartedly against using fur such as: rabbit or squirrel. i'd wear lambs-wool as well.

i'd also be okay with wearing an old fur coat - that was handed down from a grandmother.. or that i got at a second-hand store. but even if the fur-coat were old, i couldn't in all consciousness wear leopard/cheetah etc... i might be okay with wearing beaver.

i rationalize wearing a re-used old coat because that means instead of me buying a new wool coat (most likely dyed) or a new down-filled coat - i have prevented some animals being sacrificed for my warmth (geese/duck are used for down) ditto re preventing more chemicals being used (dyes and dips used for sheep's wool).

All that being said, i've never owned a fur coat.

WHEN we can create warm coats that are completely free of animal products AND completely free of toxic chemicals (PVC/plastic derivatives), then i'd see absolutely no rationale for wearing animal-product-derived clothing. i live in a cold country, and unfortunately hemp or cotton coats just don't cut it.

 

[*AndoraStar*]

Can I please ask what this thread has to do with STAR STYLE?

 

[twilight fairy]

Please remember animals were on this planet before us, living peacefully. Until humans came and started exploiting everything, from rainforests to wildlife.

 

[Kalista]

There is already a thread just like this one:

http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/f54/fur-yes-no-6049-9.html

 

[Sweets]

Rather than just saying "fur is evil," etc., the push should be to REFORM the fur industry and institute standards for treatment of fur animals. And, in fact, such standards are in place for fur farmers in Europe. Rather than insisting that ALL fur is bad and saying that everyone who wears fur is evil, it would be more productive to draw distinctions based on fur origin, including where it was farmed and if the farm conforms to humane standards.

We exploit animals every day for a variety of uses. I don't see domesticated fur animals as having some special moral status because they are more photogenic, or because their pelts are used to create a "luxury" item. However, I DO believe that, like all animals, they should be treated humanely while they are in our care and their deaths should be swift and humane. Such standards could be straightforward to enforce, given the will.

push to "reform" the fur industry? thats ridiculous, as if fur is some kind of necessity... I'm loosely quoting someone on the vegan forum by making the analogy that if someone were to be raped, would it make them happier or be more humane to do it in a nice hotel room or out in an alley? And do you seriously think that the fur industry (which makes such a profit because because of how inexpensive the process of slaughtering many animals in little time) would take the time and money to create a killing machine anywhere near "humane"? Is it ever humane to slaughter something for human vanity?

 

[littleliverbird]

push to "reform" the fur industry? thats ridiculous, as if fur is some kind of necessity... I'm loosely quoting someone on the vegan forum by making the analogy that if someone were to be raped, would it make them happier or be more humane to do it in a nice hotel room or out in an alley? And do you seriously think that the fur industry (which makes such a profit because because of how inexpensive the process of slaughtering many animals in little time) would take the time and money to create a killing machine anywhere near "humane"? Is it ever humane to slaughter something for human vanity?

Very well put and I agree 100%.

It's disgraceful that we think we have some kind of 'right' to kill any animal for it's fur. It's WRONG.

 

[gruveechik]

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Since this post touches on animal rights and vegetarianism, thought i'd share the quote below.

May seem hypocritical that i'm posting this, since i'm not vegetarian/vegan and i'm not against wearing animal skins (until we develop good alternative 'products').. i do believe in this quote even though i'm not there yet, i'd like to attain that level. btw: i'd totally be vegetarian/vegan, if it weren't for the fact that when i was a vegetarian, i developed a horrid allergy to: all things soy, all gluten product, eggs. i can have beans only periodically as well. Also, i am unable to eat raw veggies in fall/winter/spring. i still have this horrible illness.


Okee so here's the quote:

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"As humanity progresses, meat will be used less and less, for the teeth of man ar not carnivorouts. The human teeth, the molars, are formed to grind grain. The front teeth, the incisors, are for fruits etc. It is therefore quite apparent, according to the implements for eating, man's food is intended to be grain and not meat. When mankind is more fully developed the eating of meat will gradually cease."
('Abdu'l-Baha: Star of the West, Vol III, No. 10, p. 29)

"Truly, the killing of animals and the eating of tehir meat is somewhat contrary to pity and compassion, and if one can content oneself with cereals, fruit, oil and nuts, such as pistachios, almonds and so on, it would undoubtedly be better and more pleasing."
('Abdu'l-Baha: from a Tablet - translated from the Persian and quoted in The Compilations of Compilations, p. 462)

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Therefore, i sincerely applaude those of you who have successfully linked pity and compassion with animals, and who have led their lives accordingly, either by limiting what you purchase or eat or wear. i believe you are ahead of the times in regards to the progression of mankind.

 

[Lonewalker]

I think the animal activists push it too hard. I don't want to feel bad about feeling fur and I shouldn't. I don't make anyone do what they don't want, why should they make me stop wearing fur?