Zara x Stefano Pilati 2024

[Darko]

Ok I love Stefano I can't help myself
Ok this is good at least good
Giselle looks lost in space here
Love few pieces here tbh

 

[Darko]

P.S.
Shoes here are one BIG JOKE
They looks cheap AF

 

[tricotineacetat]

The ethos of Zara and Uniqlo are very different no? One is essentials focused and the other one is fashion focused.
I don’t think the comparison is valid.

The question for me is more whether or not you can produce an 'honest' product given those prices - Something that is made with decent fabrics and construction, good cut, etc. - If I had to prioritize on anything, I would rather wear super-basic clothes delivering on those terms rather than the fashion aspect.

Jil Sander's collection wasn't exactly super fashionable or delivering on anything we hadn't come to expect from her already - Fashion had already moved elsewhere when she left her own house and I remember some members on TFS mentioning that it looked like it was aesthetically stuck in the early 2000s.

People bought it anyway for the subtle refinement in the factors I mentioned about earlier. It made me think perhaps newness isn’t that much needed when you do one thing well. Hedi would certainly agree on that.

 

[vogue28]

The womenswear is flawless, so immaculate and chic. Always did adore Stefano Pilati's Yves Saint Laurent, so I'm very much into this slight reincarnation. I'm obsessed with those high-neck and halter-neck looks, and the jumpsuit with the high empire waist and bow detailing.

 

[jeanclaude]

The womenswear looks quite heavy and suffocating. I don´t see anything interesting here. And the menswear...my God, what a big ego Stefano has!! He looks like a mid-aged politician trying to look modern to get more votes.

Well, in fact he reminds me of a former Spanish Primer Minister: Mariano Rajoy

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[Scotty]

This will be more expensive and better quality than regular Zara. I like it. However, I am turned off by the Pilati modeling.

 

[TaylorBinque]

I need to see this in person. Zara's pricepoint for this type of collection is way off scale. Their quality is just not there.

 

[JohannesL]

The ethos of Zara and Uniqlo are very different no? One is essentials focused and the other one is fashion focused.
I don’t think the comparison is valid.

To ordinary people, they are both fashion brands but with different aesthetics, non? One would be surprised to find out that in some countries Uniqlo is their equivalent of quite luxury that they can afford. But I understand the western perspective regarding these two brands.

 

[tourbillions]

quiet luxury is basically essentials with premium materials..

 

[Lola701]

The question for me is more whether or not you can produce an 'honest' product given those prices - Something that is made with decent fabrics and construction, good cut, etc. - If I had to prioritize on anything, I would rather wear super-basic clothes delivering on those terms rather than the fashion aspect.

Jil Sander's collection wasn't exactly super fashionable or delivering on anything we hadn't come to expect from her already - Fashion had already moved elsewhere when she left her own house and I remember some members on TFS mentioning that it looked like it was aesthetically stuck in the early 2000s.

People bought it anyway for the subtle refinement in the factors I mentioned about earlier. It made me think perhaps newness isn’t that much needed when you do one thing well. Hedi would certainly agree on that.

But I really think that both brands offers honest products. I think the question of the ethos is interesting because, in substance, there are great basics at Zara and in the sea of polyester stuff, there are also offers in natural fibers like at Uniqlo. But Uniqlo’s selling point is about those essentials. I would add COS to the equation because it’s the fast fashion brand I buy most of my basics from.

Essentially, I think that a good design, honest and pragmatic in terms of execution, with a bit of care, can last a long time.

I think, Zara beats Uniqlo and COS in terms of design and sometimes, it’s just enough. Someone can go to Zara and the design would be right. When I look at some of their coats, I’m impressed. Even on their basics.

Uniqlo has a card to play with Clare at the helm now but essentially, because the ethos of the brands are quite different, it’s a bit hard to compare.
When someone thinks: I want some khakis! Uniqlo will be the first brand on their mind probably when in fact, they can also have a comparable product at Zara.

I think this Stefano collaboration is timeless in some ways. Depending on your lifestyle, your style and what you choose from this, it can last a long time.

To ordinary people, they are both fashion brands but with different aesthetics, non? One would be surprised to find out that in some countries Uniqlo is their equivalent of quite luxury that they can afford. But I understand the western perspective regarding these two brands.

Yes but the aesthetic is important because it will determine the way people approach those brands. Zara can play the illusion of luxury because they have appropriated the whole thing for years.
I’m guilty of that too but when someone asks for a basic I genuinely direct them to Uniqlo! You want a hoodie? A khaki? A simple tshirt! The first thing on my mind would be Uniqlo.

You want something more elevated, in terms of design or even just for an event, maybe Zara or Mango and others.

And we see how the promise of both brands is different when you look at their collaborations. Look Uniqlo C and Zara by Stefano: their offers couldn’t be more different even though they comes from the same universe.

I think both collections can be timeless in their own way but is it really fair to put the 2 brands at an equal stage?

 

[blackcherrified]

Honestly the womenswear is basically an extension of what he had done in YSL and I am not complaining…

 

[tricotineacetat]

But I really think that both brands offers honest products. I think the question of the ethos is interesting because, in substance, there are great basics at Zara and in the sea of polyester stuff, there are also offers in natural fibers like at Uniqlo. But Uniqlo’s selling point is about those essentials. I would add COS to the equation because it’s the fast fashion brand I buy most of my basics from.

Essentially, I think that a good design, honest and pragmatic in terms of execution, with a bit of care, can last a long time.

I think, Zara beats Uniqlo and COS in terms of design and sometimes, it’s just enough. Someone can go to Zara and the design would be right. When I look at some of their coats, I’m impressed. Even on their basics.

Uniqlo has a card to play with Clare at the helm now but essentially, because the ethos of the brands are quite different, it’s a bit hard to compare.
When someone thinks: I want some khakis! Uniqlo will be the first brand on their mind probably when in fact, they can also have a comparable product at Zara.

I think this Stefano collaboration is timeless in some ways. Depending on your lifestyle, your style and what you choose from this, it can last a long time.

Yes but the aesthetic is important because it will determine the way people approach those brands. Zara can play the illusion of luxury because they have appropriated the whole thing for years.
I’m guilty of that too but when someone asks for a basic I genuinely direct them to Uniqlo! You want a hoodie? A khaki? A simple tshirt! The first thing on my mind would be Uniqlo.

You want something more elevated, in terms of design or even just for an event, maybe Zara or Mango and others.

And we see how the promise of both brands is different when you look at their collaborations. Look Uniqlo C and Zara by Stefano: their offers couldn’t be more different even though they comes from the same universe.

I think both collections can be timeless in their own way but is it really fair to put the 2 brands at an equal stage?

What turns me off the most about Zara is the turnover of styles, weekly deliveries, the sheer amount of product they put out on the market. I recently looked at Zara for a tank top with a specific neckline and they had by far too many styles with marginal differences. I ordered a few and returned all of them as the fabrics were really poor.

I am far from saying that Uniqlo reflects my taste in general and I am unhappy with them introducing more and more products made from synthetic fibers but the core products I could want from a brand like that (jeans that are either raw selvedge denim or with a clean wash, merino/lambswool/cashmere knits and functional outerwear) are on point in terms of durability, performance and fabric research.

As a man who grew up wearing Helmut Lang and Dior Homme as the principal designers in my fashion upbringing, Uniqlo’s product offering is understandable and easy to browse through and there are pieces I bought many years ago from Jil Sander or Lemaire's collaboration that are holding up just as well as anything from a high end designer.

I find that remarkable given the constraints of this price point but it’s very much testament of a continuous refinement of garments and not of a very much changing product offering.

 

[Darko]

The womenswear looks quite heavy and suffocating. I don´t see anything interesting here. And the menswear...my God, what a big ego Stefano has!! He looks like a mid-aged politician trying to look modern to get more votes.

Well, in fact he reminds me of a former Spanish Primer Minister: Mariano Rajoy

publico.es

Stefano for Presidente ofc 💪💪💪

 

[IndigoHomme]

This is the first time I've seen Zara present a very well-executed collection with oversized cuts. I would have liked the colour (Brown or burgundy? My monitor doesn't let me see it well, haha) of the trousers in look 7 to have been replicated in more outerwear pieces.

 

[mteb123]

Nailed the Menswear!! So Good!! Not so sure about the women’s though :/

 

[tourbillions]

the styling of the womenswear isnt doing it any favours but each individual pieces look so chic and fresh,

 

[Nimsay]

that white ruffle front button down pour homme is a dupe of a YSL Homme one - I know because I owned it.

 

[Grets]

The Fendi collab last year, now this? Maybe he is going to an LVMH brand.

Also hanging out with Phoebe

 

[jeremydante]

I love Stefano, and I really admire the way he's kept going, he's continued to design and create.
I love what he's doing with Random Identities, I am excited that he got this contract with Zara, and wish him nothing but success. Gisele can sell anything, but the designs are a great way for the un-fashionable masses to fall into style.

 

[visvim2001]

I'm really tired of this menswear trend in which the legs are swaddled in acres of fabric, a totally infantile look, shapeless and formless. Nobody asked for pants that look like Baobab trunks and sweep the floor, or peacoats tailored for the Kingpin, fake pleather jackets that don't conform to a masculine V-shaped torso, or a fat ugly old man wearing all of them. It's disgusting what Gen Z will buy.