Hedi Slimane exits Saint Laurent; Anthony Vaccarello hired

Read the original caption again and it's clear Hedi is going to Chanel or to Dior. If that's not the case, what Bergé said has no sense at all.

I can't imagine how successful Chanel menswear would be. A total milestone.


I haven't been so excited about a piece of fashion news in centuries!
 
Even though I originally said that I don't see Hedi going to Dior I feel like Bergé's "highest-bider" comment is about LVMH. Snabbing Slimane from Kering would be such a coup for Arnault against the Pinault family. Besides it's much more like LVHM to be willing to do and pay anything possible to get the best designers in their roaster. The Wertheimer brothers at Chanel are much more secretive and subtle when it comes to money. They're also in a very confortable place with Karl at the house they really don't need this kind of buzz or fuss...

And yet doing Chanel menswear would be a million times more attractive project for Hedi. As many people said, it would create an unprecedented frenzy in the fashion world ( even I am going crazy just thinking about it ). He would also have a lot more creative freedom at Chanel mens than Dior. Instead of complying to Dior's overwhelming heritage and codes he will be able to establish a house, a complete style & allure from scratch but through the most famous name in fashion + elements at the core of the house that I am sure appeal to him : from the androgyny to all the ateliers and thus an unparalleled craftmanship power but also the tweed, the gold chains, the black, the in-house beauty business... Hedi can do menswear at Chanel and gets all the attention that he loves, then take over womenwear when Karl retires.

It's either Dior or Chanel. Unless an investor made him a crazy offer to open his own brand. But one thing sure , thanks to Pierre Bergé's comments , he ain't going back to self-exile.
 
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^ Did you mean roster? I love roaster though :lol: More than a couple designers have gotten fried ...

It could very well be that the family wants Karl to train someone. No doubt they are subtle, but Pierre is not ...

From what he's said, I assume he didn't want Kering outbid ... but my question is, did they? In a bidding war, typically the loser allows themselves to be outbid.
 
I'd be okay with Hedi doing Chanel Homme...but ONLY that. His menswear is usually okay, but is womenswear always looks so tortured.

Somewhat related--so is Haider Ackermann no longer considered a potential successor at Chanel? I guess he's fallen off the radar in the past couple years, but I'd honestly be more intrigued to see what he could do.
 
Somewhat related--so is Haider Ackermann no longer considered a potential successor at Chanel? I guess he's fallen off the radar in the past couple years, but I'd honestly be more intrigued to see what he could do.

Karl said in a interview that he said that because he is a fan of his work and that he didn't even believe that Haider will ever go for it. Haider is still invited to his shows and events.

At Chanel, he is the boss so he will have an influence on who is going to replace him.

I'm kinda surprised on how people are supportive of him doing Chanel...

I'm sure he will go to Dior. I'm just waiting for the announcement.
 
I can't imagine Haider doing it either. Doesn't he have exactly what he wants right now?

If it is Dior, it definitely represents a massive change of direction for them. Under the radar appointments, no massive scope of control for the CD ... all of that would be out the window. That would surprise me ...
 
Agreed on Haider. I remember that he had a bit of press a few years back (mostly tied to Karl's comments and Lady Gaga wearing him for her first Vogue cover) but it always felt counterintuitive. Although I would like to see Haider ascending to a big house, he seems totally comfortable being in his own lane and under the radar.
 
Slimane can do Dior. Dior Homme became tacky when he left...from the cheesy perfume ads, boring collections and non-sense celebrity endorsements.

Dior may being an established and powerful name, it is an irrelevant brand. They don't have any influence in the industry. Celebrities doesn't seems to be interested in what they are doing.
They have more to gain than to loose if Slimane goes there. Look at what he did with Saint Laurent (Ok, the accessories of Stefano helped).

He has worked at LVMH so he knows the mechanism.
At Dior, they have moved from the 1950's too ladylike silhouette and all their recent campaigns (Jennifer Lawrence) or endorsements (Rihanna) showed signs of them wanting to have a less stiff/bourgeoise aesthetic.

+ I think it's time for KVA to leave. He worked like a good employee but wasn't brave enough as a fashion designer.
 
.. this may sound wild but I really think Karl has made some of the prettiest dresses.. ever :ninja::lol:.. [/SIZE]

Karl may have fallen for cringe-worthy themes and really bad gimmicks (accessories included) but he always delivers at least one beautiful piece and over the years has done that groupie thing much much better than Hedi no matter how much he tries by embellishing it with photography, explanations, models, bands. I don't know who talked about Karl only exiting Chanel in a bag (ta-ta?) :mellow: , but that sounds like the sanest option lol..
Doesn't sound wild to me, Mullet!

In fact - I've been revisiting lots of Karl's Couture and RTW collections for Chanel from 2005, 2006 and 2007 and MAN, Karl really was making some to die for clothes then and Chanel was just so cool. Plus, at that time in his tenure, his humor was channeled into charming little details or styling tricks that put a smile on your face. For the past couple of years, though, his humor seems to be severely misguided and all we get are gimmicks that are about as subtle as a bag of bricks to the brow...and just as painful.

I've said it before, but if Hedi could capture in some way again that Chanel spirit of Karl's work from the mid 00's, I'd be so here for that. I like my Chanel a little more pared back, a little more aloof and entirely more gorgeous than what we're currently getting. I would also hope that Hedi is a smart enough individual to realize that if he were, indeed, to be Chanel's head designer at one point in the future, that the grungy LA rock-chick vibe doesn't necessarily need to continue on at this particular house.
 
This all was so exhausting to read. LOL

An interesting and rather dramatic development is YSL completely wiped out their Instagram. I kind of find that to be disrespectful but I'm a person who thinks history and eras shouldn't be erased.

https://www.instagram.com/ysl/


Business of Fashion has wrote about this case too...

Source : businessoffashion.com

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Why Would Yves Saint Laurent Erase the Hedi Slimane Era?

Designer tenures seem shorter and shorter, but Yves Saint Laurent's decision to wipe its Instagram account of Hedi Slimane's time at the house is curious on several levels.

By Imran Amed
April 8, 2016 10:37


LONDON, United Kingdom — Yes, it's true. In the wake of Hedi Slimane's departure from Yves Saint Laurent and the appointment of incoming creative director Anthony Vaccarello, the brand's first bold move was to wipe the entire history of the Instagram account created under Mr Slimane, leaving only a black and white portrait of the new chief designer.

The Internet reacted with a mixture of giggles and outrage. Fans of Slimane — many of whom are still reeling from the news that their fashion god has exited the proverbial building — say it is disrespectful of the contributions he made to the storied French house during his four-year tenure, transforming Yves Saint Laurent from a unprofitable problem child in Kering's luxury brand portfolio to the star pupil, outperforming all of its peers.

Others wondered why the brand would do this. Could it be symbolic — wiping the slate clean, making way for a new era at Yves Saint Laurent? Could it be that Vaccarello wanted to make a statement about his own arrival at the brand? Or, could Slimane have personally requested that the brand delete his imagery as he feels ownership over his work?

Well, given that Slimane's imprint is still visible everywhere else at YSL, digitally and otherwise — the company's website, Twitter feed, Facebook page, and its more than 140 retail stores — these theories seem unlikely. And anyone who has met Vaccarello would find it hard to believe that the move was his doing, as he seems the furthest thing from an egomaniac.

So for now, the decision seems rather puzzling. To erase this defining chapter in Saint Laurent's history is absurd on several levels. It reminds me of my visit to the Gucci Museo in Florence a few years ago, during the tenure of former creative director Frida Giannini. The museum, dedicated to the more than 90-year history of the Florentine fashion and leather goods house, basically skipped the defining era of Tom Ford, when the designer single-handedly returned Gucci to its former glory and created the anchor for what is now the Kering luxury goods group. (I haven't been to the museum since then, so don't know if Mr Ford's contributions have now been recognised under the new creative director, Alessandro Michele.)

But it's important to note that even though Tom Ford was left out of the Gucci Museo, Frida Giannini's design template closely followed that of Mr Ford, something that some industry observers also expect of Vaccarello, especially given the huge commercial success of Saint Laurent under Slimane, not to mention his wholesale reinvention of the brand's architecture.

In any case, perhaps what is more interesting is that the Instagram account "@hedislimane', with a respectable 66,5000 followers has not a single post — only a link to Slimane's website which includes a complete list of the man's oeuvre in fashion and beyond, from his first arrival at YSL in 1999 to his halcyon days at Dior Homme which seared him into the collective fashion consciousness to his stunning debut campaign for his return to Saint Laurent in July 2012.

Where Slimane goes next is perhaps the biggest question in fashion at the moment. Could it be Chanel? Or Dior? Or, more likely, the launch of his long-awaited eponymous label which, ostensibly, he would never leave. Or maybe he's done with fashion once and for all.

Let's see.
 
God the press is being so overdramatic about this Instagram thing. The page was inactive throughout his whole tenure, they only posted some stuff about the LA show and a video of the Paris show. It literally had just 4 posts, they're acting like hundreds of posts were erased overnight. It actually makes totally sense to let Vacarello "start" the page since it wasn't active before.
 
^ Must be a slow news day in fashiondom ...

Interesting that BOF says launching his own label is the most likely scenario. To me, what Pierre said doesn't fit with that. Launching your own label is a completely different thing than a footballer going to the highest bidder. (Unless he's just so blind to reality that he thinks nothing could be better for any designer than the opportunity to carry on Yves' legacy.) What he said implies playing for another team, not starting your own ... and there can be no question that he's in a position to know what's going down.
 
This whole Hedi @ Chanel thing sounds like Charlie Bucket being appointed the new Creative Director of Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory. I wonder who else has Golden Tickets?
 
The instagram "scandal" is a tempest in a teapot. The writers are milking this for more than it's worth. So there you go, tea and milk. Ahh!



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Really, though, isn't the reality interesting enough, why make up a fantasy sideshow?
 
God the press is being so overdramatic about this Instagram thing. The page was inactive throughout his whole tenure, they only posted some stuff about the LA show and a video of the Paris show. It literally had just 4 posts, they're acting like hundreds of posts were erased overnight. It actually makes totally sense to let Vacarello "start" the page since it wasn't active before.

As a journalist it is extra frustrating to me. All these reporters saying that YSL "deleted" their Instagram account and "wiped away years of work" literally have no idea what they are talking about. They obviously were never aware of YSL's (lack of an) Instagram in the first place, so they're just blindly following this faux-dramatic clickbait wave.
 
No Pulitzer prizes for these jokers!! Cracker Jack prizes they can have ...
 
.. this may sound wild but I really think Karl has made some of the prettiest dresses.. ever :ninja::lol:.. Hedi should just get his own label, it's a bit abnormal to me why would someone [with resources] want to keep jumping from house to house working under some deceased person's parameters and big corporation demands.. when you can start your own label and you already have a large fanbase guaranteed. Like Tom Ford did, he's bothering no one anymore, just doing his own thing, films, cosmetics, he just seems to do whatever he wants on his own terms.

I agree. It makes absolutely no sense why he does not get his own label, particularly when he's totally unable to create anything else than is not within the style he already has. No matter where he goes, he will do everything exactly the same. He seems to be using the cushion of this big labels simply to have a large budget at his disposal to realise his ideas and a ready made market to sell them, without having to actually put the hard work in , that's the only explanation i can find for the fact that someone with such a strong fanbase, does not seem willing to put his own money where his mouth is.
 
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... He seems to be using the cushion of this big labels simply to have a large budget at his disposal to realise his ideas and a ready made market to sell them, without having to actually put the hard work in , that's the only explanation i can find for the fact that someone with such a strong fanbase, does not seem willing to put his own money where his mouth is.

No doubt it's nice to have someone else's money to use, but I can think of another reason that might appeal to him, and that is having the prestige of designing for the biggest and most storied fashion houses.

Karl could as well just be his own brand, but he likes working with Chanel and Fendi. Who knows, maybe Karl defines the role that Hedi aspires to, figuratively as well as literally.
 
Karl could as well just be his own brand, but he likes working with Chanel and Fendi. Who knows, maybe Karl defines the role that Hedi aspires to, figuratively as well as literally.
Karl has his own brand right now ... it seems it may not be very well known :wink: Certainly it doesn't have a strong identity (unless under the radar is an identity), and it apparently can't hold a candle to the others. Now maybe things would be different if it had his full attention a la Marc Jacobs ...

There are some assumptions in this thread that Slimane has more than one note that he would undoubtedly be able to deploy at another house ... I would like to see proof of that. And perhaps I will ...

Karl Lagerfeld Choupette fingerless gloves, anyone?
 

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No doubt it's nice to have someone else's money to use, but I can think of another reason that might appeal to him, and that is having the prestige of designing for the biggest and most storied fashion houses.

Karl could as well just be his own brand, but he likes working with Chanel and Fendi. Who knows, maybe Karl defines the role that Hedi aspires to, figuratively as well as literally.

Totally agree. Hedi clearly has the name an the following to create a successful namesake label, but I feel like for a lot of designers being at the helm of a big maison is a much comfortable situation. Building a brand from the ground is really not easy, takes a lot of time, a lot of money, a lot of risks. Very few would pick that over working at Chanel and Dior where they have endless resources, the best team in the business. a whole empire to play with. It's really the holy grail of fashion employment.
 

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