Kate Moss (Please put any and all Kate related gossip in here)
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Isamaus - I don't think Tellers work is amazing but jeez she doesn't look like a 'crack wh*re' at all. She looks laid back and if you look directly at her eyes that photo is a little spell binding. And yeah i DO know people who feel comfortable enough in their own skin to not need to wear makeup and flipping do their hair up to the nines every day. That does not make them crack whores. In fact i'm gonna stop now cos your post has actually irritated the hell out of me and i'm gonna start arguing with someone who is probably about 10 years younger than me.
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To me (like somebody already stated) Teller does not diss Moss in the article, he just states that her work isn't as good anymore and that her icon status is strange. That isn't actually dissing in my books,though she could do with some dissing for a while, seems like everyone is licking her *** for no reason anymore.
I just don't know what in the last,say year and a half, has been elegant about her? She did have elegance, but elegance can fade away.
I just don't know what in the last,say year and a half, has been elegant about her? She did have elegance, but elegance can fade away.
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To me she doesn't look like a crack wh*re in that pic, she looks good even though she does at the same time look like she's high (these days she surely does look like a crack wh*re), I actually like that photoshoot. But that is the last photoshoot ever taken of her before she first entered rehab in 1998, isn't it, with the pink hair and all?
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ultramarine said:
Here in Finland (and I think in Scandinavia too) it's on May, can't remember the date though.
IsaMaus said:So you know a lot of people, who wear her hair unwashed and dirty like that??That is nice for you.
yeah, it's real spliffy, they can think instead I guess. Grad students are sooooo decadent these days, they have no shame. It all depends on your priorities, no?
I don't think she looks druggie there, more like she's jonesing, really, a bit sad - but true.
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Exactly! They draw me to the picture. She looks so vulnerable and human.
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In Canada it's May for Mothers Day and June for Fathers Day.
would you please come to the behind the lens forum and discuss teller's work there? i love all the fiery comments!i don't even think the title of this thread is appropriate, how is he dissing her? maybe he doesn't worship her, that's all...
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Could you change it into something more appropriate?
Maybe,Juergen just thinks Kate(like myself and I'm alot others)think Kate is just overrated or over-praised? Juergen is intelligent man(and extremely talented for all you nay sayers!!) and in being a friend of hers for so long,I very much doubt he would blatantly insult her.
But then again,if he is,I would still agree with his feelings and resignations. I never got what was so special and unique about her. Some of you have ragged on Juergen for being a realist but Kate Moss is actually pretty plain looking to me-even in her most glamourous images-so it can be double standard to say such harsh things about him.
But then again,if he is,I would still agree with his feelings and resignations. I never got what was so special and unique about her. Some of you have ragged on Juergen for being a realist but Kate Moss is actually pretty plain looking to me-even in her most glamourous images-so it can be double standard to say such harsh things about him.
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Oh god no! Madonna kissed Britney on TV, Kate Moss is lesbian film??? Does anybody feel sorry for their children?
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Because of the lesbian thing or because of those two ideas being just crappy?
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^ Because of those two ideas being just crappy...
Scott said:
Well, if he did say this he was definitely insulting her work - but then perhaps she agrees with him, like some have suggested. I don't - but then my view of what art and fashion photography should be about is completely different from Jurgen Teller's, I think.
It appears to me that when people like Kate, they're likely to rather dislike Teller, and vice versa. Personally, I think she's one of the best models ever, 90% of what she has done is great, while he is a talented photographer who puts out 90% crap.
No contradiction is involved here, just taste.
Let me remind you that realism, in art, is the rejection of subjectivism and imagination in favor of an accurate and objective description of the world. A pretty boring idea, if you ask me, even though it's a necessary phase to go through, I think. In the case of fashion photography this becomes especially bizarre, since this type of photography is all about idealization, escapism or expression.
It's basically a question of - if you're blown away by beauty - or if you're blown away by satirical mockatorials - which have been scrubbed free of all the inherent beauty of the clothes, models and props? Whatever floats your boat! Some of the very best stuff - IMO - is Helmut Newton's work for American Vogue in the 70s - which were a drastic combination of beauty and satire. Obviously. Everybody loves Helmut, right
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