Madonna to Adopt a baby

[mellowdrama]

"It would have been better for him to continue staying at the orphanage because I see no reason why my child should be given away forever when I can feed him," he said.

His statement is a major shift from his earlier remarks when he railed against human rights groups that have gone to court to stop the star from adopting his son.

Ha, ha! My Malawian trickster god just ate your Tree of Life!

 

[smartarse]

The reason why so many people are in an uproar about Madonna's adoption is that the boy, David still have living relatives as well as a biological father present in the boys life. The criticism comes when Madonna chose him out of all the actual orphans that were presented to her. Many critics even , Meredith Viera pointed out if she wanted to help David out of poverty she could've given money to his father to help bring him back. It's a strong opinion from a high profiled journalist, if you asked me.

 

[christina126]

Its great that she is helping this child but its sad that his biological father was misinformed.

 

[eternitygoddess]

Somehow...I don't think Madonna will be the best mother to an adopted child.

 

[dizzytacks]

Oh chill out, I'm sure you'll survive

this is probably the weakest statement i have ever read on this forum. I hope you can read english becuasethe title of this thread is, Madonna to Adopt New Fashion Accessory-- An Exotic Baby, automatically isolating certain groups from others. the idea of exoticism is culturally fabricated and promotes racism and ethnocenticism. Madonna is helping a child in a country where the need is greater and relief for orphans is not as strong as in some countries, He is not an accessory, toy or scapegoat. She is only shedding light upon an issue where ignorance is huge and philanthropy is weak.anyway... i dont know the proper protocol for a thread name change, but i would like this threads name to change.

 

[mellowdrama]

^Howabout "Gracious Magnaminous Artistic Genius Madonna, The Pinnacle of Selfless Perfection, Abducts, erm, Adopts a Child Who Is No Way Exotic, Raising Consciouness and Living Standards, Providing Clean Drinking Water and Manna From Her Lily White Breasts, Uniting The World With The Purity of Her Good Intent, Bringing An End To The Scourge of Suffering & Death, Realizing All Paths Are One, Thereby Uniting The Sephiroth From Malkuth To Kether, All Opposites United, The Gates of Heaven Opened, All Expedited By Her Glorious Wealth And Fame, Amen"...?

 

[tifa]

^ hahah wonderful!

 

[VainJane]

^Howabout "Gracious Magnaminous Artistic Genius Madonna, The Pinnacle of Selfless Perfection, Abducts, erm, Adopts a Child Who Is No Way Exotic, Raising Consciouness and Living Standards, Providing Clean Drinking Water and Manna From Her Lily White Breasts, Uniting The World With The Purity of Her Good Intent, Bringing An End To The Scourge of Suffering & Death, Realizing All Paths Are One, Thereby Uniting The Sephiroth From Malkuth To Kether, All Opposites United, The Gates of Heaven Opened, All Expedited By Her Glorious Wealth And Fame, Amen"...?

Amen.

 

[VainJane]

this is probably the weakest statement i have ever read on this forum. I hope you can read english becuasethe title of this thread is, Madonna to Adopt New Fashion Accessory-- An Exotic Baby, automatically isolating certain groups from others. the idea of exoticism is culturally fabricated and promotes racism and ethnocenticism. Madonna is helping a child in a country where the need is greater and relief for orphans is not as strong as in some countries, He is not an accessory, toy or scapegoat. She is only shedding light upon an issue where ignorance is huge and philanthropy is weak.anyway... i dont know the proper protocol for a thread name change, but i would like this threads name to change.

That's fine

Brace yourself though, it's a politically incorrect world out there.

 

[fashionicon]

You may not like her music or clothes or whatever but that doesnt mean she is a bad person.

GROW UP!

Father angry at Madonna's critics

The father of the one-year-old boy Madonna is hoping to adopt has hit back at rights groups who are aiming to challenge the singer's plans in court. "Where were these people when David was struggling in the orphanage?" Yohane Banda told the AP news agency.
"These so-called human rights groups should leave my baby alone," he added.
The boy is now in London with Madonna. He will be monitored by Malawian officials over a period of 18 months before the adoption is approved.

That's proablby the best argument I've heard in this whole debate.

My parents are both natural born citizens of Nigeria, and they'll tell you themselves what a privelege it is to live in America.

I do agree, it's terrible that she's pushing her beleifs on the kid, but seriously, what parent dosen't push their beleifs on their children?

"It would have been better for him to continue staying at the orphanage because I see no reason why my child should be given away forever when I can feed him," he said.

So either the article posted above or this article is lying, but I'm gonna go with this one. Why would he be in an orphanage if he was able to feed him?

 

[smartarse]

^ i think the criticism arises when the boy, David, grows up knowing his father gave him up because he can't fend for him, he'll then seek and want to be reunited. As any adopted parents (I'm not but seen 20/20 and Dateline and remember the infamous Mary Beth forgot the last name who had a surrogate mother and wanted her baby back!? Remember, Americans???) anyhoo, they grow such an attachment to the child that they don't want. Unless, Madonna is aware of these feelings and willingly give him up back to his family when that arises, then so be it. but I doubt that's the case. I could be wrong

...and another thing if the father is willing to give him up without any communications- money or otherwise, w/ this child than Madonna has the right to adopt. But according to the latter (article), he's expecting something in return , for the child to give the family a good life while he's in another care of another family. Once youre adopted the adopted family can have you barred from any communications with your biological. This is where the argument arises.

 

[dizzytacks]

That's fine

Brace yourself though, it's a politically incorrect world out there.

that may be true but acceptance is the first step in promotion...

 

[dizzytacks]

thank you mods for cleaning up the name of this thread

 

[smartarse]

okay, i remember the name of the infamous Baby M story. Mary Beth Whitehead was the woman who had a surrogate and 9 months later the surrogate mother wanted to keep the child-- the infamous Baby M. it was a heartwrenching , gutwrenching, heartbreaking story. i was a kid and still remember it.

^ i think the criticism arises when the boy, David, grows up knowing his father gave him up because he can't fend for him, he'll then seek and want to be reunited. As any adopted parents (I'm not but seen 20/20 and Dateline and remember the infamous Mary Beth forgot the last name who had a surrogate mother and wanted her baby back!? Remember, Americans???).

 

[taperjeangirl]

Somehow...I don't think Madonna will be the best mother to an adopted child.

Or to any child. Not only do I question her parenting skills but also those of her bell end of a husband.

 

[fashionicon]

^ i think the criticism arises when the boy, David, grows up knowing his father gave him up because he can't fend for him, he'll then seek and want to be reunited. As any adopted parents (I'm not but seen 20/20 and Dateline and remember the infamous Mary Beth forgot the last name who had a surrogate mother and wanted her baby back!? Remember, Americans???) anyhoo, they grow such an attachment to the child that they don't want. Unless, Madonna is aware of these feelings and willingly give him up back to his family when that arises, then so be it. but I doubt that's the case. I could be wrong

Yeah, I still don't see the problem. If the boy wants to be reunited with the father, than so what? When he is of age to make that decision, than he can. The father had plenty of time to say, "maybe this isn't such a good idea." What would happen if he wanted the boy back? He's going to go back to living in an oprhanage, while his father struggles to raise him?

I think people tend forget about the child in situations like this...

 

[smartarse]

to answer you question here's the latest from Reuters (10/22)

Dad: Madonna adoption a mystery

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01:07
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Oct. 22 - The father of a boy Madonna plans to adopt says he never intended for his son to be adopted

Yohane Banda says Madonna asked that she be able to raise his one-year-old son David on his behalf, rather than having the child become her own.
Banda's statement is a major shift from his remarks last week when he railed against human rights groups that have gone to court to stop Madonna from adopting David.
Andrew Potter reports.

http://today.reuters.com/tv/videoChannel.aspx?storyid=07591076393455ee5ec17bfbc110efc5ae177ce1&src=102306_0822_ARTICLE_PROMO_also_on_reuters

According to this Madonna has no intentions on giving him up to his biological father if and when it happens in the future. and it's a bit confusing on the : "asked that she be able to raise his one-year-old son David on his behalf, rather than having the child become her own. " i'm sorry but adoption is adoption for keeps. you dont raise someone for one year or indefinitely and give it back to the rightful family-- than that's FOSTERING.

Yeah, I still don't see the problem. If the boy wants to be reunited with the father, than so what? When he is of age to make that decision, than he can. The father had plenty of time to say, "maybe this isn't such a good idea." What would happen if he wanted the boy back? He's going to go back to living in an oprhanage, while his father struggles to raise him?

I think people tend forget about the child in situations like this...

 

[taperjeangirl]

She has total disregard for humanity.

 

[fashionicon]

to answer you question here's the latest from Reuters (10/22)

Dad: Madonna adoption a mystery

Report
01:07
Email Video Link
Oct. 22 - The father of a boy Madonna plans to adopt says he never intended for his son to be adopted

Yohane Banda says Madonna asked that she be able to raise his one-year-old son David on his behalf, rather than having the child become her own.
Banda's statement is a major shift from his remarks last week when he railed against human rights groups that have gone to court to stop Madonna from adopting David.
Andrew Potter reports.

http://today.reuters.com/tv/videoChannel.aspx?storyid=07591076393455ee5ec17bfbc110efc5ae177ce1&src=102306_0822_ARTICLE_PROMO_also_on_reuters

According to this Madonna has no intentions on giving him up to his biological father if and when it happens in the future. and it's a bit confusing on the : "asked that she be able to raise his one-year-old son David on his behalf, rather than having the child become her own. " i'm sorry but adoption is adoption for keeps. you dont raise someone for one year or indefinitely and give it back to the rightful family-- than that's FOSTERING.

Riiiiiiiight, so what's the difference between "adoption" and "raising the child on his behalf"?

And in the video it said that she was allowed temporary rights to the adoption, which would imply that the boy would one day get to visit his father, no?

 

[taperjeangirl]

I read she promised to let him visit in about 3/4 years.