Nicole Kidman criticizes Angelina Jolie

[VainJane]

Exactly! The crucial point here is that Angelina has no skeletons because I dont think she knows how to be dishonest. And honesty is far more important than say, being in a loveless marriage and cheating (which she wouldnt do -she would just say so outright).

Lovely to have reasoned discussion fashionicon!

Wow, someone's an Angelina Jolie fan...

 

[SiennaInLondon]

^ Yes, I'll admit VainJane But I was trying to illustrate the objective reasons for my being one.

A reason I am not a fan? She can barely act a fig! Other than Girl, Interrupted I cannot really champion her oeuvre!

 

[LeonieAlexandria]

I can't help but disliking her, believe me, I did try that.
Why do you like a certain celeb? Because you like how she/he looks, what he/ she's does or what he/she's like ( as far as you can tell from the press or interviews).
All I know of Angelina I don't dig or feel weirded out by. ( now not the charity or adopting. )
Let me be honest with you, we DO judge people based on our own,personal attitudes. If I think it's stupid how overly sexual,provocative she acts in interviews or carries around her ex boyfriends blood then I think it's stupid. So most obviously we DO judge people.it is human to have feelings of sympathy or not towards people based on their actions. and i couldnt care less if someone is homosexual, but if i think someone acts sl*tty or inappropriate then i cant help that. I dont think im intolerant, its a personal feeling i have.
think of celebs YOU dont like - why dont you like them ?because you dont like what they're doing, what they stand for, or whatever. thats life.
this is all my personal opinion. its stupid asking people if they dont like angelina because 'they're jealous cause she's so beautiful '. we arent in kindergarden. why would i praise other womens beauty but bash angelina bc of that? bottom line is : i think its good she does charity work,BUT i do think she's overhyped, i do think she tries to make herself look good with the charity work.

 

[SiennaInLondon]

^ I cant argue with any of those points Leonie! When I dont like an actor, it is usually because of a performance and I'll be the first to admit it is because of that. I hated Reece Witherspoon because of Cruel Intentions. I loved Sarah Michelle in it and hated how smug Reece was. Then I saw Walk The Line and realised she could be quite charming (Oscar acceptance speech aside) but then I would never say I hated a celeb for their morality. I like George Clooney's morality and I dislike Arnold Scwazzewhatevers but the latter doesnt really mean much to me -I dont hate him.

Also I dont think she is overly sexual or provocative. But she has that type of look. So does Monica Bellucci. Neither of them force it but it just comes across. Some people are just inately sexual -that is the way it is. I dont really buy "behaving inappropriately" because I dont like a lot of the pointless societal conventions but that is a difference of worldview I guess.

All I can say is if you see a video of her accepting her Golden Globe in I think the year she won for Girl, Interrupted, she is so gracious, so abashed and when she gets her brother on stage the whole audience goes 'awww' because it was just a lovely moment. It is easier to see her personality in those old interviews and appearances. Not now when the questions asked are obviously the 'when are you gonna marrys' and the 'which country are you gonna fly tos'

 

[fashionicon]

its stupid asking people if they dont like angelina because 'they're jealous cause she's so beautiful '. we arent in kindergarden. why would i praise other womens beauty but bash angelina bc of that? [\quote]

Let it go.

Beleive it or not there are women out there that *gasp* only hate her because of the way she looks. I know, crazy right? It's not completley unheard of.

LOL! We aren't in kindergarten huh? . Aww the days of kindergarten. I remember hating this little girl named Suzie because all the little boys were all over her. Always trading their ice cream sandwiches and gummy bears with her, while us "not so attractive" girl toddlers got the desserts that no one wanted. I'm joking but really, being jealous of someone and their beauty is something that happens throughout adulthood.

If I remember correctly, you first used the term "jealous". And the fact that you are still hanging on to the comment makes me wonder.

 

[eternitygoddess]

Leonie, that's a great point you made.

 

[BaroqueRockstar]

i don't think whether or not someone likes angelina jolie is the matter at hand...
it's not only her, it's any celebrity that gets too much credit for doing things that other people better and for no publicity
it's nice she goes to africa and such, but she doesn't do anything close to what all those doctors and nurses do... because she can't. they get no attention, no appreciation... and angelina gets tons.

 

[fezbatik]

A goodwill ambassador is a celebrity who advocates on behalf of their organization(s) and utilizes their fame in order to spread their organization's ideals.

This is the definition - so what is the problem again?

 

[eternitygoddess]

^That a great majority of people have it in their heads that Angelina is the most charitable person out there.

 

[Ce'nedra]

I agree with Nicole actually.

 

[Zen]

She has the millions to give to her favorite charities....and I guess that justifies her role as a goodwill ambassador.....and people praise her for
giving money....money talks.....It's sad for those who actually go out there and do the nitty gritty work and don't get the recognition they truely deserve. Money is a symbol of power and Angelina has it.....money speaks for itself. Maybe money solves the problem for Angelina....to me it's an easy way to get the good PR without the hard work...and it's an easy way to get out of doing that hard work.....

 

[misssakura]

She has the millions to give to her favorite charities....and I guess that justifies her role as a goodwill ambassador.....and people praise her for
giving money....money talks.....It's sad for those who actually go out there and do the nitty gritty work and don't get the recognition they truely deserve. Money is a symbol of power and Angelina has it.....money speaks for itself. Maybe money solves the problem for Angelina....to me it's an easy way to get the good PR without the hard work...and it's an easy way to get out of doing that hard work.....

So you're saying she shouldn't do anything (nor anybody with money for that matter?). Seems a bit odd. And people do get recognised for their work, you just need to actually look at the organisation and read up about it instead of assuming that E! Hollywood true story WOULD actually report on red cross workers if they just wore prada and had lamborghinis.

 

[Zen]

^Do you have a problem with me?

 

[pinkish]

i think the media represented it as an attack.. so typical

 

[misssakura]

^Do you have a problem with me?

I don't have a problem with you at all, and if you'd like I can rephrase my post so that 'you' turns into 'one' (just a grammatical thing that I happen to find quite clunky in every day speech). I do happen to disagree with you but I think that's something that i'm entitled to, and I never once stated that you should change your view at all, i'm merely saying that I generally find that stance which you also hold, to be a bit strange.

I can sort of see where you're coming from that people shouldn't do things for glorification and that yes - there must be people who deserve more recognition but at the end of the day, those who do charity work do it because they believe in the end result and if they happen to get little or no recognition, or on the other end of the scale get a large amount of attention, it doesn't take away from the actual work and result achieved.

I think that there is an unecessary double-standard applied to celebrities, that because they are wealthy and known they must be evil or malintentioned. I just happen to find that incredibly unfair and therefore I don't like to judge people based upon their social status or financial status. If they try and do something right, then that's all I could ask. I wish everybody would get out of their chairs and try and make at least a little difference to the world. The world sure as heck needs it regardless of who it comes from.

 

[Annu]

i don't think whether or not someone likes angelina jolie is the matter at hand...
it's not only her, it's any celebrity that gets too much credit for doing things that other people better and for no publicity
it's nice she goes to africa and such, but she doesn't do anything close to what all those doctors and nurses do... because she can't. they get no attention, no appreciation... and angelina gets tons.

I agree.

About Angelina.. I feels like that she makes too much publicity her charity work. She does and people talks it so much that I don't even care anymore, her or her charity work. But it's good for those people that they get attention and bad for those that no one seems to care.. And I think I get Nicole's point, even if Angelina bring attention and money those project there still needs doctors and that kind of stuff. i don't know how much goverments care about what Angelina says but normal people like we probably cares more and maybe do some more because it's Angelina who does charity and not Prodi or Bush for example.

So.. I just mean that she does great work but I so tired of her. Her personal lfie, charity work.. everything

 

[roppal222]

Oh for god's sake people, bottom line is the whole point of a UN ambassador is that they draw publicity to charitable causes. And the UN specifically targets celebrities because they know a lot of people track celebrities' move...this website being a reflection of that. So they're hoping while we primarily fawn over X celeb's fashion sense/who they're shagging we'll hopefully become enlightened over some charity they've affiliated themselves with.... Angelina can't help having media attention on her anymore than Nicole will be able to when she jets off to do her bit for the UN.

Besides, Nicole Kidman ain't a dumb **** - she's been in the limelight a long while, over the years she has worked the media game when it suits her. And whilst I don't believe she's necessarily directly attacking Jolie, she's certainly aware of how the press works and why they draw so much bloody attention to celebrities....

I don't think Nicole's rhetoric is really serving any purpose other than to feed those people who continuously have incessant hatred for Jolie.

 

[chloe girl]

Nicole sucks.. Why does she have to dog Angelina Jolie for her charity work.. She cant help the whole world is soo fascinated by her.. Her doctor friend is not a famous actor!! Anyways, Angelina does not force all the media attention.. Afterall. its rare you see a stunning actress devoting so much of her time to charity and inspiring others in Hollywood to do the same.. I LOVE ANGELINA!!!!

 

[eternitygoddess]

I LOVE ANGELINA!!!!

^Yeah...we can tell.

Can't Nicole make a simple comment without people blasting and analyzing it?

 

[VainJane]

Can't Nicole make a simple comment without people blasting and analyzing it?

Probably not