Real Models Vs Real People

iluvjeisa said:
I don't agree. Actresses are accomplished because they take direction from directors but models are not accomplished because they take direction from photographers? That sounds truly bizarre to me - taking direction is taking direction. Modeling is still-acting. Just like there are people who are gorgeous and act terribly, there are gorgeous people who photograph terribly - so photographing well is a talent - a gift to project emotions. Very successful fashion models, not swimsuit models, are extremely beautiful and still-actresses. After a few years they have accomplished something - a portfolio packed with art.

As for the genetic lottery argument - everything we accomplish is because of our genes - acting as well. So just like models are genetic lottery winners, so are actresses.

At the end of the day, though, the most important thing for people who are interested in photography and/or beauty, is that most celebs just look bad on covers - they are not gifted still-actresses. To me, it's fine with Kate Winslet, Demi Moore or Nicole Kidman because they generally photograph very well. But SJP....COME ON. She looks dreadful and doesn't photograph well - and should not be tainting a cover.;)

You make some good points ... there certainly is talent involved in modeling. Good actors are doing far more than taking direction, but it's true that the best models bring something to the table as well. I still think the character point holds true ... Isabella Rossellini (a talented model *and* actress) is far more interesting to look at than someone who has no life experience, IMO. I love Richard Avedon's photographs, and one thing they demonstrate to me, anyway, is the value of photographing people who are not blank slates.

Clearly there are a lot of people (with a lot of money invested) who think SJP does photograph well. I think the shots for Lovely are well ... lovely. Just personal opinion I guess ... maybe it all depends on what you mean by beauty. The beauty of imperfection (antiques, wabi-sabi, life showing on someone's face) is what's most interesting to me.
 
fashionista-ta said:
Clearly there are a lot of people (with a lot of money invested) who think SJP does photograph well. I think the shots for Lovely are well ... lovely. Just personal opinion I guess ... maybe it all depends on what you mean by beauty. The beauty of imperfection (antiques, wabi-sabi, life showing on someone's face) is what's most interesting to me.

Opinions will differ :p I don't see any life on her face. Never have, and botox doesn't make that any better. All I see is an imperfect face, a woman with clothes sense, who is a mediocre actress and has a very nice body. Those qualities are not the ones I look for a cover girl :blink: It could be anybody who was given an opportunity - not someone who is magical.
 
You gotta have that special "something" to make a great photograph.....its beyond conventional beauty....you gotta have SPARK! baby!
 
i dont much like seeing celebs instead of models.

models ! yeah ! theyre meant to do it.
 
models are trained to give pictures more life and something extra so that they appeal to people.
 

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