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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1: Book vs Movie Report Card

Let's start at the very beginning. In this case, that's a big ol' spoiler alert. Please don't read this unless you have a) already seen 'Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1' or you haven't seen it yet but want to know some of the key ways the film differs from the book. If you want to remain unspoiled, look away ... now!

For those of you who are fellow book fans, we've highlighted five different aspects of the film and graded them based on how faithful director David Yates and screenwriter Steve Kloves were to the first chunk of J.K. Rowling's epic, series-capping book.


Returning Characters: A-

How the Movie Does: Good news, S.P.E.W. members, Dobby (voiced by Toby Jones) pops up to save the day, just as he does in the monumental 'Malfoy Manor' chapter in the book. And Kreacher (Simon McBurney) also returns to reluctantly help the Trio in Grimmauld Place. We also get to see (albeit briefly) all of the pertinent Weasleys and Order members: Mad-Eye Moody (Brendan Gleeson), Remus (David Thewlis) and his new wife Tonks (Natalia Tena), Kingsley (the imposing George Harris), Fleur Delacour soon-to-be Weasley (Clemence Poesy) and the ever-effervescent Luna Lovegood (Evanna Lynch).

On You Know Who's side, Snape (Alan Rickman), all of the Malfoys and Death Eaters -- especially Bellatrix Lestrange (Helena Bonham Carter) -- emerge in full force. Cat-loving blood-purist Dolores Umbridge (Imelda Staunton) has her moment, and is fantastic once again.

Whom You'll Miss: Dean, a muggle-born on the run, like Hermione, had a pivotal supporting part in the novel, but there's no mention of him in the movie. Since there's much less time spent at the Burrow before the Trio goes searching for horcruxes, there's painfully little of the Weasleys and the Order (the movie skips right from the 'Seven Potters' escape from 4 Privet Drive to Bill and Fleur's wedding day), and Viktor Krum (Stanislav Ianevski) doesn't appear in the wedding scene, despite reports he would appear in it.


Important New Characters: A

How the Movie Does: This is the one category the movie nails as an adaptation. Casting Bill Nighy as well-intentioned but ineffective Minister of Magic Rufus Scrimgeour; Domhnall Gleeson as Bill Weasley, the brood's hunky (and scarred) eldest brother; and Rhys Ifans as Luna's equally as eccentric father and Potter-trusting Quibbler editor, Xenophilius Lovegood, is enough to earn the adaptation an A; but the movie also introduces us to Aunt Muriel, Dumbledore's old friend Elphias Doge, and a host of hitherto unnamed Death Eaters who quickly gain control of the Ministry. Thanks to the never-ending stable of excellent English actors, all of the new characters are portrayed quite right.

Whom You'll Miss: Tonks' parents Andromeda and Ted are also nowhere to be found. He's not technically new, but the werewolf Fenrir Greyback, who's so menacing in the final book, doesn't have any lines in the adaptation.


Action Sequences: A-

How the Movie Does: Even if you know what's happening, you'll bite your nails at the intensity of Voldemort's first kill, the thrilling Seven Potters chase, the run-ins with Snatchers, the close-call at the Ministry, and the creeptastic encounter with Bathilda Bagshot-turned-Nagini. Bellatrix's psycho sadism still lets loose at Malfoy Manor, but the torture scene is toned down (no screams of "Crucio!") -- a good thing considering how many children will go see this movie. But Yates keeps the body count the same as in the book. No one who meets their untimely end before the Battle at Hogwarts has been spared (with the exception, as some of you have pointed out, Peter Pettigrew, whose merely rendered unconscious -- at least in this installment).

What You'll Miss: Not much. All of the major life-or-death sequences made the cut.


Romantic Chemistry: B+

How the Movie Does: Ginny (Bonnie Wright) and Harry have their one passionate snog (and the added bonus of a provocative dress zip-up) on the day of the wedding (sorry, Harry doesn't have that 17th birthday party in the film), but when it comes to romance, it's all about Ron and Hermione in the final book. Every little look, touch, and word Rowling teased fans with isn't duplicated in the film, but there are definitely enough adoring gazes, protective embraces, near-touching hands, and longing, weepy looks to make it perfectly clear that Ron and Hermione are in love with each other. And of course, there's that rage-filled smackdown Hermione gives Ron when he returns. But be prepared, there is a brother-and-sisterly dance between Harry and Hermione that may seem slightly unnecessary (at least to this Ron-and-Hermione shipper), and that awful Harry-Hermione kiss when the locket torments Ron.

What You'll Miss: We dropped a grade for Yates skipping the dancing scene at the wedding (instead, they just stare at each other from across the room) and not including any of Ron's frantic sobs during the Malfoy Manor horrors.


Comic Relief: B-

How the Movie Does: While Ron, Fred and George, and Luna are always good for a laugh, Part I includes much less humor than the other films. Since Yates cut a lot from the pre-horcrux hunt, the Weasley twins only get a few one-liners -- at the very least, George's "holey/holy" joke after he's injured was kept in the screenplay -- and leaves the comic relief to Ron, who spends a lot of time sulking in this film but still says some of the funniest lines. The supporting players who play Ron, Hermione, and Harry disguised as Ministry employees also lighten the mood. British character actors Steffan Rhodri, Sophie Thompson, and David O'Hara deserve special mention for their physical comedy portraying the three teens, who've taken Polyjuice Potion to look like adults and wander around the Ministry of Magic looking for their former headmistress.

What You'll Miss: All of the jokes surrounding the 'Twelve Fail-Safe Ways to Charm Witches' book; Potterwatch, and some of the funnier bits of conversation at Xenophilius Lovegood's house.
 
^I actually didn't miss a lot of those things until I read the article. Most of the things they cut didn't bother me too much, because they won't have a tremendous effect on the outcome of the story. However, I was hoping they would include Kreacher's Tale a little more and I also hoped Ron and Hermione would dance at the wedding. It's such a sweet moment in the books.

And I agree about Ron not sobbing and freaking out when Hermione was being tortured. They should have had Rupert get more upset.

The film kind of hints at Potterwatch though. Book readers probably pick it up.
 
i hope those pictures aren't repost

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i loved Hermione's outfit from the second pic, when the shirt's tucked into her jeans. those jeans were perfect for her, such a nice fit...i was really jealous of those pants when i watched the movie:rofl:
 
I just came back for the movies having seen the HP movie and I thought it was amazing..hahaha^^
The only think I didn't like was the scene with the horcruxes right before Ron destroyed it...it was like the figures from the xbox game came out to play :ninja: I do think I have to read the book again :rofl: hahahahahaha I know I said I wouldn't do it..but I think I will. Maybe I'll bring it to work and read during my lunch break :innocent:
 
oooh right.^ it's just that in the Finnish version they translate the names so that's why I didnt spot the name Scabior there.
I always try not to read the subtitle because it's sometimes misleading and I get somewhat confused with the different names, but it's like my eyes are attached to the subs:ninja:
 
I know the feeling^ especially when they hired some idiot to do the translating for the movie: Mad-Eye had two different names used throughout the movie, so frustrating. And about the translating subject, I was mortified by the way they translated the holey/holy-joke in Finnish, how many people in the theather actually knew that Van Gogh supposedly lost his ear, because that's what they went on and on about in the subtitles :ninja: It would have been a good comic relief if the translators would have went for the way it was translated in the book. :rolleyes:
 
in german they said "i feel like a swiss cheese...you know, all holey":rolleyes::yuk:
i can't wait to buy the dvd to watch it in english, all these little puns get lost in translation :(
 
in german they said "i feel like a swiss cheese...you know, all holey":rolleyes::yuk:
i can't wait to buy the dvd to watch it in english, all these little puns get lost in translation :(
Haha... I love the bit about the swiss cheese! Its so fascinating to see how things are translated from English into a different language... certainly worth a chuckle. :p

I just saw the film for the second time- it was better the second round too! I love the scenes between Ron and Hermione- simply wonderful!
 
Just saw the movie and it was amazing!!! It definitely lived up to my expectations, though I agree with you who said they wanted to see Ron more upset when Hermione was being tortured. I was really looking forward to seeing Rupert's acting skills! All in all, great movie and I can't wait for the next one! :heart:
 
yeah, i also just watched the movie! this is amazing movie ever, and i hate the ending is just something like that! :lol:

the soundtrack also amazing! and ron is just sweet as hell! :lol:
 
in german they said "i feel like a swiss cheese...you know, all holey":rolleyes::yuk:
i can't wait to buy the dvd to watch it in english, all these little puns get lost in translation :(
:rofl: I didn't get what they had translated it into in Norwegian..I was trying to not look at the subtitle, but when it's there it's really hard since I'm so used to following it.

I think the lady next to me fell asleep:ninja::innocent:
 
yeah, i also just watched the movie! this is amazing movie ever, and i hate the ending is just something like that! :lol:

the soundtrack also amazing! and ron is just sweet as hell! :lol:
The ending is such an anticlimax...it's like oh wow it's the last Harry Potter movie, the final, the ending, the answers to all questions..........part 1:ninja: but I do get why they wanted to make 2 parts, since it's a big book and all that, but still I wish I could see the last part now..:innocent:
 
I hoped that they would have been only one movie, part 1 was so boring. There were some nice scenes though but it was let down, for me.
 
The ending is such an anticlimax...it's like oh wow it's the last Harry Potter movie, the final, the ending, the answers to all questions..........part 1:ninja: but I do get why they wanted to make 2 parts, since it's a big book and all that, but still I wish I could see the last part now..:innocent:

:lol: you are right! but it's just the worst choice part to ended the story,

i want something more climax feel! i want to be a person to say "arghhhhh nooooo, please we want more!"

not the person who say :blink: "wth, okay, so the ending is just that?" *flat*

i'm just disappointed about the ending, and they cut it lots of detail part, also changing some story line..*makes me confused a bit, coz i read the book*
but the main stories i should say is just epic, i love how they use the snake-image to make us a bit goosebumps! and too bad the movie not in 3D..
 
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I am really happy HP is not in 3D. IMO 3D very rarely brings anything to the movie, okay Avatar and those might work but I think 3D is totally overrated. Plus the classes are distracting, especially in a a long movies when the classes dig into your nose!
 
Here's a new, very interesting article from the Los Angeles Times that discusses Harry Potter's chances at winning an Academy Award:
:D

Spinning Oscar magic

The 'Potter' series has yet to charm academy voters. Can its last 2 films make the cut?

By Nicole Sperling, Los Angeles Times

November 24, 2010

By many measures, the " Harry Potter" series is the ultimate winner: It's the most successful film franchise in box office history, selling in more than $5.8 billion in tickets worldwide. Audiences love it, returning seven times over the last 10 years to theaters to see the latest installment. But now, with the penultimate movie released last week and the final installment due next summer, the pressure is on the boy wizard to snare the one accolade that has eluded the series: an Oscar.

Is the prize the unattainable horcrux, or can Harry and Co. conquer the Academy?

That battle for Oscar recognition may be as epic as Harry's quest to defeat Voldemort. Over the years, the Warner Bros. series has occasionally received nominations for categories such as art direction, costume design and visual effects, but the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has never rewarded the series with a win.

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Some Oscar consultants say it's unlikely the Academy will look seriously at this year's film, " Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1" after snubbing the series for so long – and knowing that they have another chance next year. But if director David Yates delivers a tour de force with the "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2" in July, the Academy might take a closer look next season, essentially honoring the eight-picture series for its overall achievement.

It wouldn't be the first time that a populist film with a literary history gets rewarded by the Academy in its final incarnation. "Lord of the Rings: Return of the King" took home 11 Oscars in 2004 – including best picture and best director -- when voters acknowledged director Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema for the extraordinary wager they took by financing and filming the three films in the trilogy at once.

"With 'Lord of the Rings', there was a huge risk involved, and it was the risk people rewarded," said one veteran Oscar marketer who asked not to be identified . "With 'Harry Potter,' it would be the consistency of so many movies well done that would be rewarded. [The Academy would be saying] here's your cherry to go on top of the gazillion of dollars you've made."

But unlike Potter, the early installments in the "Lord of the Rings" series did win Oscars in categories including cinematography, makeup and visual effects. And all three were nominated for best picture.

A number of top Oscar consultants say they have heard that Warner Bros. is planning a massive campaign in Los Angeles, New York and London next fall for the final film, bringing out for the press and the voters all the characters that have been killed off —a campaign that would essentially remind voters of the scope of the Potter series.

Warner Bros. declined to comment, saying that they do not reveal the details of their Oscar campaigns, especially for a film that's not yet complete. But, the studio has yet to run any "For Your Consideration" ads for "Deathly Hallows Part 1," a telling fact considering some films that have yet to open in theaters have already initiated full-fledged awards campaigns.

With "Lord of the Rings," New Line had an advantage in high-profile writer/director/producer Peter Jackson, whose distinct vision created an epic trilogy of story-telling. The "Harry Potter" films, in contrast, had multiple directors, so its creative center is producer David Heyman. While regarded as highly proficient, he is not seen an auteur -- and that may be a count against the franchise when it comes to Oscar voters in the specific guilds.

The "Potter" films have had four directors: Christopher Columbus helmed the first two; Alfonso Cuaron and Mike Newell each directed one; and Yates led the last three into theaters, and will complete the fourth next summer.

With different directing styles came uneven reviews and "Harry Potter" never had the kind of endorsement from the critical community that "Lord of the Rings" enjoyed through its entirety.

"Lord of the Rings was extraordinarily reviewed, unbelievably reviewed, all three of them," said Russell Schwartz, New Line's former president of marketing who orchestrated the films' campaigns. " 'Return of the King' won the New York Film Critics Award. That's not going to happen with 'Potter.'"

Of the seven "Potter" films released thus far, Cuaron's "Prisoner of Azkaban" was the best-reviewed, according to Rotten Tomatoes' Top Critics rankings. The most recent film received the second-worst reviews of the bunch, faulted for its slow pacing and lack of conclusion.

"The last one, if it stands on its own, will get the good marks for everything else by association," said Schwartz. "It has to be as good as the best one."

Until then, the studio is tasked with keeping "Harry Potter" in the minds of Academy Awards voters. Those who have attended Academy screenings for the "Potter" films say the movies are always received well, and some awards consultants believe the studio has smartly kept the movies in front of voters for years – without asking for much more.

"They've done it right all the way through," said Oscar consultant Melody Korenbrot. "It just depends on what else comes out. But this is a big boy now."
 
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I am really happy HP is not in 3D. IMO 3D very rarely brings anything to the movie, okay Avatar and those might work but I think 3D is totally overrated. Plus the classes are distracting, especially in a a long movies when the classes dig into your nose!
I agree..I'm not a big fan of 3D and the glasses I have su*cks :innocent::rolleyes:
 
so. this going to be a "long" one.
i've finally watched it few days ago and my my my, it was amazing. i agree with most of it said in this thread about it, the acting is not even comparable at this moment to the first couple of the movies (tho i must say, that i was terribly disappointed with how Emma handled the scene with Ron coming back - it left me so "empty", dunno, for me it was such let down - maybe if she punched his face i'd be more happy with it :lol: - on the other hand Hermione's deleting in the beggining was a heart-breaker, so nicely done by Emma :heart:) . cried like a baby at Dobby's storyline - those sneakers on him, god those sneakers :heart:, beyond cute.

what i did realize, as Alvie pointed out is how the movie already seemed rushed at more than a few points (and i find it totally appropriate how they're doing it in 2 parts) which made it tough to follow the story for those who didn't read the book (such as my bf who went with me - i was filling the gaps for him throughout the movie :lol: speaking of which - for someone who hadn't read the book or watched the movies up until now like him i was surprised and had kinda of "WOW" moment at his comment - "i find so much similarities with LOTR" which i never heard before or felt while reading the books so i "blame" it on movie (cus when he "pointed it out" i kinda got what he was thinking of).

i feel so dumb or just so disconnected cus i never really got the Hitler mode from Voldemort from the books like i did watching the movie - it's a good parallel tho. i feel so ashamed of this considering how much love i have for these books and how much time i've spent with "them". :(

loved the costumes, loved the cinematography (i was in love with that scene when they stop the Hogwarts train from the moment i saw it in trailer, but in the movie it looked even more SPECTACULAR - that rising of the hand and the "giantness" of that man, amazing). as for the Oscar talk - apart from the tehnical side which they're probably win awards for, i think we're gonna have to wait till 2012. for the movie to win it - i'm thinking it will be done in LOTR way).

i'm utterly disappointed with how they handled Lupin's story or should i say how they went right past it - i'm hoping they're gonna correct this in the second one.on the other hand i'm in love with the animation of the Deathly Hollows story, it was perfect.

the biggest surprise of them all was definitely how i didn't find the movie "horrorish" one bit considering all the talk about it, tho my bf was genuinely scared as a baby at Nagini (he was like: " is she going to appear again? tell me this right second.TELL ME!" :lol:).

Rickman, Bohnam Carter - FTW!

anyhow, sorry for my post being all around the place, but i had so much bits to say about it so... sorry. definitely going to see it again in the next few days. :)
 

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