The Vegetarian & Vegan Thread

[misssakura]

Rediburger by Sanitarium ROCKS. Yay for Seventh Day Adventists! : D

 

[kare2711]

I was mentioning something about breeding of soft shell crabs to a bunch of colleagues.

One of them mentioned that she used to work in a lab and she had to kill 100+ hermit crabs at one go. And then she ended by saying, "sometimes you don't have a choice."

Since we were at a restaurant, and I was the only vegetarian around, I didn't want to argue further.

But what fricking choice are we talking about? I'm talking about the way we grow crabs to make them more consumable, the choice of putting that crab into your mouth. Those are 'no choice'?!

Whenever I heard or read of animals harming humans, I can't help thinking C'est la vie, man! When you consume so much animals, there's bound to be one who's going to come back at us. I mean, really, I would rather sacrifice myself by satisfying an animal's hunger than get hit by a car driven by a drunkard.

Sorry, I just need to rant and somehow, I think you all will understand.

 

[Bel]

Okay... bagels. Obviously egg, asiago, pesto bagels aren't vegan, but what about other kinds? I'm guessing poppyseeds and other toppings are usually glued on with egg glaze. How about plain bagels?
And if typical deli/bagel store bagels aren't vegan, has anybody successfully made homemade vegan bagels?
I had a bite of super fresh bagel the other day and it was SO delicious, I want to become vegan but will be a little bummed about giving up bagels.

 

[misssakura]

^ don't give them up then. Even if you gave up everything other than bagels you'd be making a HUGE difference. I think the attitude "every little helps" is a very important one

And yeah I know somebody who works in a lab too and they kill off rats and say..what choice do I have? It's either them or us. But it puzzles me because testing on other species seems really stupid to me, we have totally different genetic makeup.

 

[kisa]

^ Thanks! I went out tonight and bought vegan meatless ground "hamburger"-style stuff, then made tacos using it. It was delicious and I fed a group of guys with it and they couldn't even tell the difference!

Veggie burritos are the food that made me start to consider going vegetarian, and veggie burritos are the food that made my boyfriend vegetarian...I call them "THE VEGGIEMAKER"

 

[Deleted member 36123]

^ LOL thats so cute! Maybe I should feed them to my family and friends HAHAHA

 

[Melisande]

^ don't give them up then. Even if you gave up everything other than bagels you'd be making a HUGE difference. I think the attitude "every little helps" is a very important one

I think this is a wonderful attitude, unfortunately one that we don't see too often. We should remember that before picking on Stella McCartney for wearing vintage leather once in a blue moon. It's not all or nothing, holier-than-thou. It's about contributing to make a difference.

 

[starfish]

^ I agree. I'm a pretty straight vegan, when it comes to eating. once in a while, if offered I do eat a cookie though, even if I'm not sure it's vegan.

and also, I have to pairs of leather shoes, which I'm not really proud of. I have pretty big feet and because of the non-existant market for huge, vegan-friendly and girly shoes, I have been squeezing my feet in way to little ones, which caused some pretty severe problems and I guess I kind of gave up there for a while.

fortunately for me and all my fellow big-feeted vegan girls, the market is expanding and there are much more shoes to find today, so I wouldn't buy leather now.

but yeah, as I said, it's the effort to be willing to change in the way you feel that you're able to sacrifice. it's not all or nothing, it's doing something

 

[Organic]

Can someone please tell me the best vegetarian items that contain the most protein? I know there's soymilk and beans, but what else? I really want to make sure I'm getting a lot of protein. Thanks!

it's actually very easy to get enough protein. the majority of america gets FAR too much.

you can use www.fitday.com or www.thedailyplate.com to track how much you take in on any given day or in any particular food.

 

[starfish]

^ is it really so? isn't it just that they get too much calories without any real protein?

because I thought that was the issue. if you don't get enough protein, you will continue feeling hungry, which then will cause you too eat to many calories. but maybe I'm completely wrong?

 

[Organic]

^ is it really so? isn't it just that they get too much calories without any real protein?

because I thought that was the issue. if you don't get enough protein, you will continue feeling hungry, which then will cause you too eat to many calories. but maybe I'm completely wrong?

well yes, most people take in too many calories and not enough nutrients, leaving them overfed and undernourished. but in eating things such as mcdonalds and deli meats and the like, protein deficiency is not a health risk the majority of america puts themselves at. too much protein leaves you at risk for kidney stones, and it depletes calcium stores from your bones.

 

[seanutbutter]

Whenever I heard or read of animals harming humans, I can't help thinking C'est la vie, man! When you consume so much animals, there's bound to be one who's going to come back at us.

Well said! I find it ironic that the media publicizes the death/injury of a human by way of animal to no end, yet strays away from the fact that the very same humans kill countless animals each and everyday. The majority of humans are in denial, or so it seems--they tend to think, "Oh, it's just one chicken/cow/etc., it's not going to hurt! They don't have feelings!," but they're wrong. I can only wish that someday, everyone could understand this and learn to not be so selfish--we're not the only things on earth that have feelings or emotions.

 

[Guessgirl96]

it's actually very easy to get enough protein. the majority of america gets FAR too much.

you can use www.fitday.com or www.thedailyplate.com to track how much you take in on any given day or in any particular food.

I'm not an expert but I've heard the same thing, that you typically get enough protiens without even trying.

Has anyone else noticed their metabolism slow down after becoming a vegetarian? Meat is harder to digest than most foods so I think it makes sence. I gained weight after turning vegetarian, I've lost it a while ago (then gained and lost again ) but I notice my metabolism is so slow now so I pretty much live on fruits and veggies. Everyone keeps telling me it's becuase I dont eat meat

 

[Velony]

GG, that's interesting. I haven't noticed that nor have I gained much weight after becoming a vegetarian 13 years ago. My weight pretty much stayed the same. But maybe somebody else here has noticed that?

 

[misssakura]

I have a really really fast metabolism still. Actually faster than before I think.

 

[laRenta__x0]

I have a really really fast metabolism still. Actually faster than before I think.

Yeah, same. But then again I am a teenager. But, it seems as though I have a faster metabolism because I don't have to go through the process of breaking down meat products.

 

[kisa]

I'm not an expert but I've heard the same thing, that you typically get enough protiens without even trying.

Has anyone else noticed their metabolism slow down after becoming a vegetarian? Meat is harder to digest than most foods so I think it makes sence. I gained weight after turning vegetarian, I've lost it a while ago (then gained and lost again ) but I notice my metabolism is so slow now so I pretty much live on fruits and veggies. Everyone keeps telling me it's becuase I dont eat meat

My metabolism has sped up since I went veg, I initially lost about 10 lbs. I think it's because I eat foods now with much less fat, and I also eat more fibre. I wonder if this type of discussion is permitted or not?

 

[misssakura]

Just don't state any measurements or give diet advice and it should be okay I think..

Had tofu parmegiana tonight..so much olive oil!

 

[Organic]

Has anyone else noticed their metabolism slow down after becoming a vegetarian? Meat is harder to digest than most foods so I think it makes sence.

i've been vegetarian for nearly 9 years, and i haven't found that to be the case at all. i've lost a considerable amount of weight, although i had to work at it. you do however, somewhat lose the ability to digest meat, because your body stops producing the enzymes required to digest it properly. that's why a lot of vegetarians who return to eating meat get sick at first.

 

[Crakk]

Is Stroehman's Potato bread vegan?