Vetements - 2 Years After They Broke the Internet, It Looks Like Nobody is Buying Vet

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It’s hard to pinpoint an exact date the Vetements craze started, but October 7, 2015 was the day the world stood up and really took notice. Just six days after Vetements’ SS16 show, where Gosha Rubchinskiy walked in that DHL T-shirt, Demna Gvasalia was announced as the new Creative Director of Balenciaga. Gvasalia was a relative unknown outside of the Paris scene, and Vetements itself was originally styled as an anonymous collective, although Demna would soon emerge as the brand’s figurehead.

It wasn’t long before the world went Vetements mad. The brand’s pieces sold out whenever they dropped, and celebrities couldn’t get enough of it either (I guess having Kanye West and Travis Scott sit at your show does wonders). Soon even Celine Dion was wearing Vetements, and entrepreneurial Grailed employee Davil Tran had started his own parody brand, Vetememes.

For the fashion industry, the brand’s irony, massive silhouettes and edgy styling were a breath of fresh air, but for the rest of the world, Vetements will be forever the brand that broke the internet when its $200 DHL T-shirt dropped in 2016. Any newspaper style writer worth their salt wrote a think piece on the tee when it dropped. “Scam or subversion?,” mused The Guardian. “Delivery is *so* in,” frothed Marie Claire. “Would YOU pay £185 for a DHL T-shirt?,” demanded The Daily Mail.

However, what comes up must come down and recent seasons have been pretty quiet for Vetements. The brand moved its HQ to Zurich and even pulled out of the schedule for one season, forgoing a SS18 runway show in favor of a low-key presentation inside a parking lot in Paris. Gvasalia continues to wow the world with his work at Balenciaga, but recent collections for his own label have tread familiar territory, often reworking pieces from previous seasons (the DHL tee was turned into a full collection for SS18, and bizarrely, the haulage company even put on its own fashion show at an airport in Germany).

Word on the industry’s rumor mill is that the brand is on its way out, with sales slumping and customers uninterested.

Highsnobiety spoke to a variety of sources in the American, European and Asian markets – buyers from retailers stocking the brand, a former Vetements employee and a sales associate from a luxury department store that carries the label — to find out more. All of the sources we spoke to asked to remain anonymous.

“We started stocking the brand from their early days and the sell-through rate has been 100% throughout the last few seasons,” said one buyer. “If you compare the amount we’ve spent on the brand for SS18 and the recent FW18 season, we’ve decreased the order by around 70%.”

“From a retail stand point, Vetements is completely dead,” said another. “Over the course of two seasons no one is even looking at it. Sales have dropped dramatically to the point where you are now seeing Vetements on sale on various outlets at 60-70% off.”

“We’re still going to be carrying the brand but it doesn’t sell through as quickly as it used to,” added a third.

The sources we spoke to all pointed to the same reasons for the brand’s slump in sales: recent collections offered no new ideas and largely consisted of reissued or reworked pieces from previous seasons, while prices were too high for the quality offered. Customers were instead moving on to Gvasalia’s Balenciaga collections, which offer the same look for better price and quality.

Vetements’ insane prices kept the brand in the headlines — Gvasalia even admitted himself that he wouldn’t pay them — and while $924 Snoop Dogg tees and $85 socks kept people talking, it seems that customers have had enough.


“Everyone is waving it goodbye already,” said a former shop manager at a luxury retailer that still carries the brand. “The prices get to the point where you can’t justify it any more and without that hype from the beginning to get people excited, they’re just like, ‘you’re having a laugh.’”

A former Vetements employee added that internal changes to the brand — especially its move to Zurich — led to a decline in originality. “The collection wasn’t very creative, it was a lot of carry-overs and the buyers knew that,” they commented. “The core team has completely left. Everybody who was there from the beginning has left apart from two people.”

“We’ve also heard from Vetements’ own internal team that the best designs were sent to Balenciaga,” a buyer added. “It seems like the second-grade designs are left behind at Vetements.”

The brand’s CEO, Guram Gvasalia (brother of Demna) often told the press that a key ingredient of Vetements’ success was its limited production runs. Mimicking the streetwear industry’s business model, Gvasalia insisted that keeping supply deliberately lower than demand was better for the brand in the long run, and that when brands ended up heavily discounted at the end of the season it was because they were producing more than they could sell.

However, as Quartz fashion reporter Marc Bain points out, Vetements has now ended up in that exact position, with many of last season’s pieces languishing on sale with heavy discounts. In Vetements’ case, rather than supply being too high, it might be that the demand has plummeted because consumers simply aren’t willing to pay the brand’s prices anymore.

The brand’s collaboration with Alpha Industries, an MA-1 bomber which appears identical to the $150 original bar a logo on the front and back, is currently retailing for $1,845. Vetements’ reworked Levi’s 501s are $1,360, and its Tommy Hilfiger hoodies are $895. All of them are still available in a full size run.

“At the end of the day, consumers aren’t stupid,” commented an anonymous buyer.

highsnobiety.com
 
I just read this too, I'd been hearing it from various people so nothing new for me, but it seems a bit harsh to make it so "official" by the same people who hyped them to the skies.
 
WWD just reported a response from Guram and some other buyers. But it's locked for members.

Anyway, this doesn't surprise me at all. You can't just rely on the hype to sell. Their prices are off the chart. And the quality is just not up to par at all.

The above response makes me even believer more in the story more. Without the hypebeasts, Vetement wouldn't exist. But they, at least they can live off from their high margins.
 
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"Fashion is not about hype"... I beg to differ.
 
his reaction to the whole thing suddenly makes it so much more believable. Seeing how extreme it is you just know the Hypebeast story is true. He should have let it blow over
"opportunistic pseudo journalism"? :-)
 
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We saw it coming.
To be honest, you can fool people for only a small amount of time. At some point, hype cannot hide lack of real depth and «*talent*».
Vêtements looks like a come up project settup to enter a big brand.

Judging by the pace and the state of fashion today, i’m not that optimistic about Demna’s future at Balenciaga. I think that in two years, that aesthetic will get old.

It’s maybe time for a comeback of glamour or at least, a modern and relatable interpretation of it.
 
Yeah no one is surprised. That's what happens when you build a brand solely on hype and face value. I also think Balenciaga played a major part, it's basically a more realized version of Vetements so it doesn't make sense buying both.

And LOL at Demna breaking from his ~mysterious artist~ character to go on a full on Trump-ish "FAKE NEWS!!!" rant. What an idiot.
 
They tried to outsmart the curve of hype and failed at it, a lesson for future design ventures. Supply can only be manipulated for so long, before people realize that something's not really that exclusive if its made entirely out of the cheapest fabrics. High Fashion is also very demanding when it comes to novelty and sock heels/oversized hoodies/scarf dresses have really overstayed their welcome. At least he still has his day job at Balenciaga, where I've grown...fond of him.
 
I also think Balenciaga played a major part, it's basically a more realized version of Vetements so it doesn't make sense buying both.

This. Why would anyone buy Vetements now that the hype is dead when the same ideas are so much better designed and higher in quality at Balenciaga?
 
The worst and sometimes the best thing about people in fashion is that they are bored really easily :mrgreen:

Vêtements was just a matter of time before people move on to another brand/trend/aesthetic/whatever it could be.

So rude from Demna to criticise " wannabe journalism" when it was back then really happy about this same "wannabe journalism" which praised him and his pseudo brand years ago. Anyway.
 
I have never bought into Vetements for that reason - it is overpriced. disagree with my opinion Demna, but I am the consumer and I do divert to Balenciaga because it is the same look, better quality and better value with more prestige of the house behind it, instead of it being a hype brand such as Vetements with a limited shelf life.
 
The brand's collaboration with Alpha Industries, an MA-1 bomber which appears identical to the $150 original bar a logo on the front and back, is currently retailing for $1,845. Vetements reworked Levi's 501s are $1,360, and its Tommy Hilfiger hoodies are $895.

Why would anyone pay $2,000 for an Alpha Industries bomber? Just for the Vetements tag on the sleeve zip? Almost all of their stuff was 50 and 60% off on net-a-porter etc. Their hype is definitely slowing down.

Quote from the article and my post on their F/W collection thread two months ago. This is exactly the point. Why would anyone but into the hype in the first place? Being down with the cool kidz and amassing followers on instagram? At least people have moved on to Balenciaga and forgot about this trainwreck of a brand. A lot of their F/W 2017 stuff is still available (heavily discounted) on websites and I can only see the same thing happening for this season's stuff. This alone says it all.

https://hypebeast.com/2018/1/vetements-bottled-water-print-slides
 
The worst and sometimes the best thing about people in fashion is that they are bored really easily :mrgreen:

Vêtements was just a matter of time before people move on to another brand/trend/aesthetic/whatever it could be.

So rude from Demna to criticise " wannabe journalism" when it was back then really happy about this same "wannabe journalism" which praised him and his pseudo brand years ago. Anyway.

We share the same thoughs , I don't get why bother to respond to this if it "false" , That's just a pity reaction
 
Loving this big tiff
No-one has left a house since Haider a few hours ago so let's kick-off about SOMETHING!

Pseudo journalism? Business Of Fashion was founded by a non-journalist (who seems to have a very big ego.) Accepted funding from LVMH and have here "borrowed content" and high-profile knocked a Kering stalwart/superstar.....

I'm sure they'll do the same to Vuitton and Dior tmrw! Hope so. I get bored in 15 minutes.....
 
The article, however, doesn't seem to be based on any real facts, only speculation. So, to the effect, I can understand Demna's frustration to read something written so matter of fact, without anything to really back it up.
 
I'm surprised Demna is triggered by that article, when he (and Gurma) should've foreseen Vetements' inevitable drop from the fashion cycle. Oversized wovens and sweatshirts doesn't guarantee longevity.
 
Well yeah, this type of product is short-lived.. that's the whole point of buying it like a vulture and parading it like a peacock, you only have like 5 weeks before it burns.

Demna is a charlatan and the consumers of his products are not any more respectable than those eating Tide Pods. Past and present consumers.

That said, this type of journalism IS bad (did Alec Leach actually study journalism? anybody knows?), and it's far more damaging than a fashion label, you can simply opt out not to consume or pay any attention to certain products (and there are a lot of s*it products in this world), anything visual smacks you in the face so with minimal questioning, you can accept or reject, but when you read words presented and published as truth and do standard assimilation of the material read, it's harder to detect and it contributes to have societies that later go and read about migration, war, new policies with the same dubious elements (said one buyer, said another, said a third one, the sources, a former manager at a luxury retailer, an anonymous buyer- care to explain what the sources are, why is anonymity granted so easily in fashion...) and absorb it like dumb lazy robots, nodding and being so pleased about this new piece of information they just learned. Question sources, why the sources are sources, what the motives are, how do we know they're legit and not just Alec's buddies, and what's with the nobody.. sounds like fashion gossip among two employees ("heard EVERYONE has left at Valentino" when they actually mean 2) and not something you would expect from a publication, even an informal one like hypebeast. People need to be more alert in a time of high media manipulation...
 

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