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[FrockRadar8]

I respect that some people wuld never wear fur, but people should also respect those who do. Since when is it ok to ruin someones personal property, just because you don't agree with their values?

This debate can go on for ages, but I think that any sensible person would agree that the brainless things activists(not all of them of course) do (like letting minks out of their cages to die in the wild or destroy some other species, or spray painting on bypassers fur coats) is just pointless. It's not like people who wear fur will stop because of it. If anything it encourages them.

I had to laugh when i saw this..I thought the outer layers of skin were the ANIMAL'S personal property.

 

[aliceee]

n-o to fur

 

[woodenhouse]

I had to laugh when i saw this..I thought the outer layers of skin were the ANIMAL'S personal property.

 

[LucindaMay]

What is the difference between wearing fur and leather?

They are really the same thing.

 

[titito_008]

Although i would never wear animal fur because it is wrong... i would never disrespect anyone wearing it. I also believe that there is a fine line between having passion for animal rights and being rude to those who disagree. These activist are too much for me!

 

[fab_fifties_fille]

Yeah I think the Peta activists are really rather ridiculous, even though I am against fur. You can throw paint on someone all you want...it's not going to inform them or stop them from wearing fur or buying it. If you throw paint on someones coat...and they're rich I'm sure generally the easiest way around it for them would be to buy another...so aren't Peta just feeding the problem when it comes down to it?

They'd be much better off trying to 'inform' and I don't mean that in a patronising way, but if they want to get their point across so badly there are much better and possibly more effective ways than publicly shaming people.

 

[kiss&tell]

Um, yeah sure but fake is good unless the animal is already dead and they get the fur otherwise i hate buying fakes because people kill them for their fur.

 

[kiss&tell]

^hoping that made sense...

 

[travis_nw8]

If you throw paint on someones coat...and they're rich I'm sure generally the easiest way around it for them would be to buy another...so aren't Peta just feeding the problem when it comes down to it?

i've never really thought about that

 

[cakesniffer]

Yeah I think the Peta activists are really rather ridiculous, even though I am against fur. You can throw paint on someone all you want...it's not going to inform them or stop them from wearing fur or buying it. If you throw paint on someones coat...and they're rich I'm sure generally the easiest way around it for them would be to buy another...so aren't Peta just feeding the problem when it comes down to it?

They'd be much better off trying to 'inform' and I don't mean that in a patronising way, but if they want to get their point across so badly there are much better and possibly more effective ways than publicly shaming people.

Exactly my point.

 

[Lillian]

Yeah I think the Peta activists are really rather ridiculous, even though I am against fur. You can throw paint on someone all you want...it's not going to inform them or stop them from wearing fur or buying it. If you throw paint on someones coat...and they're rich I'm sure generally the easiest way around it for them would be to buy another...so aren't Peta just feeding the problem when it comes down to it?

They'd be much better off trying to 'inform' and I don't mean that in a patronising way, but if they want to get their point across so badly there are much better and possibly more effective ways than publicly shaming people.

I agree with everything you said.

 

[woodenhouse]

What is the difference between wearing fur and leather?

They are really the same thing.

Indeed they are. Another ignorance people hold. It's very easy to avoid fur, but to avoid leather? That's a lot harder, so people usually just ignore the fact that leather is an animals skin and it's just as cruel to wear leather as it is fur. For their own sake and benefit, or because they just love their leather shoes and belts. Well, again, theirs alternatives people.

(but i'll add, I do wear vintage/consignement leathers under the pretense that it's recycling. You can disagree with me, that's quite alright, but the $ I give isn't going to the manufacturers who pay for the slaughter of an animal)

 

[Whitelinen]

No to fur because we don't need it. I'd understand if it would be so cold we couldn't cope without, or if there wouldn't be any other materials. But I do have to admit I can't resist the coat in The Royal Tenenbaums, and the white fur stole I've seen Kate Moss wear few years ago-I also have an obsession for leather jackets.

I'm currently hunting for (well, not literally )a perfect leather jacket, but I think it is going to be faux leather. It's cruel what's done to those animals.

I'm not sure what I think of vintage fur...I could say yes, but doesn't wearing it encorauge other people to buy new leather, since they see somebody wearing something great made of fur and want to copy that look/get inspiration...if anybody understands anything I'm saying.

 

[roca3itch]

I used to looove fur, but then... I saw...a video of an animal being skinned...alive... And I don't know where it came from, i didn't click on it or anything...(peta virus?) but it still haunts me to this day...really really bone chilling. It was making this panting noises. It was terrible. I think once i connected the reality of a living breathing thing having it's skin ripped off while it is fully conscience.... it really is horrible. Anyway i think if you want to wear fur you can wear fur, as long as you watch a video like that. Because if you're okay with it thats fine but i feel so angry when people lie to themselves or don't think about it. Sorry if i got anyone upset.

 

[tinuvielberen]

Those videos of animals being skinned alive are horribly inhumane.

The worst part of those videos is that they are staged. "Animal Rights" activists are killing and torturing animals purely for propaganda purposes.

Think about it, just think about it for one second, rather than just react emotionally to propaganda. Why would a fur farmer skin an animal alive? The animal is bound to struggle, raising the possibility that the animal would damage its fur or bite the person skinning it. Also, a living animal has a beating heart and a pulse, meaning that it would bleed all over the fur. And the videos demonstrate the above exactly:

One scene in a recently-released video claiming to represent fur practices in China shows a man wearing tattered shoes, hitting a fox on the head with a knife, temporarily stunning but not killing it. He then struggles to skin the obviously alive, moving animal, alternating with beating it with the knife. The animal struggles so much as to make the job impossible, and a shot is seen of the man's shoes on the animal's head. Clearly, skinning an animal alive is difficult and dangerous.

'The China Fur Commission and China Leather Industry Association challenged the authenticity of the material, saying: "Pictures showing animals being skinned alive are obviously plotted. All those with common sense would not choose this slaughter method to attain fur." The government of Suning County, Hebei Province also issued a statement outlining welfare practices on its fur farms, calling the alleged practice of skinning animals alive "unimaginable", and urging Swiss Animal Protection Organization to "respect the truth".'

Animal rights activists have a long history of faking/staging these videos:

1972: The Canadian Association for Humane Trapping produces a film entitled They Take So Long to Die. Scenes of animals suffering horribly in inappropriate traps are subsequently aired on CBS television. It is later learned that the animals had actually been caught in the wild and released into a compound to be trapped and filmed at leisure. The film is withdrawn from circulation, but the footage appears in another film, Canada's Shame, produced by the Association for the Protection of Fur-bearing Animals.

Mid-1980s: Greenpeace Australia distributes film of two men mutilating live kangaroos as part of a campaign to ban 'roo products in Europe. Greenpeace only withdraws the film after a court convicts the men for breaking the law, and concludes that they were paid to do so by the film crew.

1997 - 2003: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals releases edited videotape of a facility in Illinois which shows acts of cruelty to foxes, plus electrocution of foxes, a method of euthanasia not approved in Illinois. PeTA claims the footage depicts "modern fur farms" in the US, and complains about lack of regulation.

Subsequent investigation reveals that the facility in question is not a fur farm but a scent-producing facility, its main business being to sell scent to wildlife biologists and others as a lure for wild animals. The Illinois Bureau of Animal Welfare becomes involved, and fines and penalties follow. But PeTA's assertion that this is a fur farm is shown to be untrue. Also shown to be false is PeTA's assertion that regulation is lacking. The State of Illinois not only responded quickly,(2) but showed layers of bureaucracy in place to prosecute those who break animal welfare laws.

As of 2003, PeTA still has not delivered the full, unedited footage with sound to the fur industry, the media or officials in Illiniois (who had been forced to prosecute the owner from the edited clips only). Meanwhile, PeTA has exported the edited film around the world, misrepresenting its source and using it to smear responsible fur farmers while raising donations for its coffers.

This is why I utterly, utterly despise the "Animal Rights" movement. They are completely hypocritical, and apparently think nothing of lies, libel, and even killing and torturing animals if it will serve some propaganda purpose.

 

[Sweets]

tinuviel- what do you think would be a humane way to kill an animal for its pelt?

 

[eternitygoddess]

Why can't people wear fake fur? I don't understand. It looks the saem as real fur and it doesn't come at the price of an animal's misery.

 

[Ceptuouse]

I'd love PETA to get in trouble for throwing paint on someones fake-fur coat thinking it was real...

I dont think using fur is wrong..Actually I do...ermm...Its depends...eep

 

[RunwayModel]

no no no to fur. i dont consider wearing an animal's pelt remotely fashionable or humane. fur just doesnt appeal to me and its ridiculous to kill something just to have a stupid article of clothing or fur trim. yuck

 

[silk skin paws]

I don't like fur.