Alessandro Michele - Designer, Creative Director of Valentino

[PDFSD]

wow really???...why? Jacopo Venturini push AM too much or what?.....i don't know if they gonna let go AM....but that strategy(bringing AM to Valentino) didn't work out for sure....

the talks in office is that they are not speaking to each other now, i assume its that they don't have the regular meetings or not seen in same room for a longer than average period.

both are diva´s and both have strong ideas and that was the clash as well at gucci as Venturini left .
Venturini is a prada school guy so has vision on collections product windows etc much like bertelli he needs the creative to set the tone and he then tweaks things to fit market commercial needs in his vision .
he would launch collections parallel to AM big collections and AM got pissed after a while is the short story.

its also happening again at gucci Cantino is also a prada guy and control and power is key, he is over seeing also the collections development they told me, normally a ceo or president see the start and the end result with not much pushing back comments or guidance more advising on the business needs and etc


funny both companies have gay ceo `s and cd´s its going to be dramatic lol

 

[Xone]

the talks in office is that they are not speaking to each other now, i assume its that they don't have the regular meetings or not seen in same room for a longer than average period.

both are diva´s and both have strong ideas and that was the clash as well at gucci as Venturini left .
Venturini is a prada school guy so has vision on collections product windows etc much like bertelli he needs the creative to set the tone and he then tweaks things to fit market commercial needs in his vision .
he would launch collections parallel to AM big collections and AM got pissed after a while is the short story.

its also happening again at gucci Cantino is also a prada guy and control and power is key, he is over seeing also the collections development they told me, normally a ceo or president see the start and the end result with not much pushing back comments or guidance more advising on the business needs and etc


funny both companies have gay ceo `s and cd´s its going to be dramatic lol

Oh boy! drama drama drama....and it doesn't help that the sales are not good...

 

[ellearchivist]

Do you think the CEO might get rid of him? Surely too early??? But if sales are bad and the air is toxic then…

 

[PDFSD]

na too early ..just two divas flexing it will be fine :-)

 

[JohannesL]

At this stage, I don't mind Venturini pulling an CD role as a co-designer for the brand and stopping Michelle on his ego trip as the Gucci 2.0 formular didn't work as expected.

 

[Frederic01]

The Resort collection is currently 20% off at MrPorter. It doesn't look like it is selling at all, with most sizes available...

 

[PDFSD]

At this stage, I don't mind Venturini pulling an CD role as a co-designer for the brand and stopping Michelle on his ego trip as the Gucci 2.0 formular didn't work as expected.

you know what i agree this time even if i don't like business side playing creative but in this case what would make the new valentino work is more focus and toned down styling ..the brand went from empty modern minimal feminin to pile it on exuberant overstyling vintage creative explosion


the best is something of both worlds in one.

 

[reese06]

The Resort collection is currently 20% off at MrPorter. It doesn't look like it is selling at all, with most sizes available...

Wow, when his Gucci launched, it didn't go on sale for a few seasons. Although some things did end up in outlets

I wonder if Valentino execs thought they would have the same success with him.

 

[Xone]

I pass today and apparently they are moving via Montenapolone’s boutique (women and men) to Via Santo Spirito….not sure if it’s temporary or not…

 

[proseccotabis]

the talks in office is that they are not speaking to each other now, i assume its that they don't have the regular meetings or not seen in same room for a longer than average period.

both are diva´s and both have strong ideas and that was the clash as well at gucci as Venturini left .
Venturini is a prada school guy so has vision on collections product windows etc much like bertelli he needs the creative to set the tone and he then tweaks things to fit market commercial needs in his vision .
he would launch collections parallel to AM big collections and AM got pissed after a while is the short story.

its also happening again at gucci Cantino is also a prada guy and control and power is key, he is over seeing also the collections development they told me, normally a ceo or president see the start and the end result with not much pushing back comments or guidance more advising on the business needs and etc


funny both companies have gay ceo `s and cd´s its going to be dramatic lol

damn i LIIIIVEEEE for this drama thank you PDFSD as always you are the best!

I pass today and apparently they are moving via Montenapolone’s boutique (women and men) to Via Santo Spirito….not sure if it’s temporary or not…

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maybe a VM revamp..?

 

[LadyJunon]

Teaser for Michele's Couture debut for Valentino dubbed "Vertigineux":

 

[FashionPower]

Yay, more thrift shop dusty looking gowns borrowed from his grandmother's old trunk paired with piercings and beanies to make them look "modern" and "trendy".
Add a couple gimmicks like the cat head minaudiere from last RTW show and the couture collection is done.
Tired of the same old clichè but ready to be proved wrong.

 

[FashionPower]

How we feeling about Lallo's Prada like coat belt? Cinch that waist Lallo!
With that hair and oversized shades he's starting to morph into an overly botoxed middle aged Milanese cougar married to some finance elder looking for "fresh meat" and hookup with hunky young models, no good.
Love his partner with the 5k hobo Valentino bag that's gonna flop so hard and gonna get discontinued next season...

 

[Denjo]

I am shocked by the hate towards Alessandro on this forum. I have contrasting thoughts about the couture but is comical how the same people (from the industry too) who praised Galliano’s artisanal costume feast are now shocked by how costumy and impractical Alessandro’couture is.

 

[Thefrenchy]

^^ This belted silhouette... A choice

 

[FashionPower]

I am shocked by the hate towards Alessandro on this forum. I have contrasting thoughts about the couture but is comical how the same people (from the industry too) who praised Galliano’s artisanal costume feast are now shocked by how costumy and impractical Alessandro’couture is.

I get your point and I agree with you, it's just that Galliano's last costume parade at Margiela rightfully played with nostalgia and the feeling to have over the top fashion, intended as a whole show and Not Just a display of clothing. Most people from the fashion pack were getting tired of quiet luxury and wanted to feel that edonism fashion era from the mid 2000s: the glamazon models, the exaggerated posing, the drag Queen overly articulated makeup from Pat Mcgrath. That Margiela show was basically a Dior couture from 2004 transposed 20 years forward, this is exactly the reason I found that show terrible and demodé, fashion Should be about evolution and moving forward, Not mechanically replicate something done 20 years ago with no alteration (apart from inclusive casting).
Lallo's couture was a costume parade without the environment to properly elevate it as a show rather than Just a costume Display.
Trust me, had the Lallo show featured Gisele opening, Naomi closing and the posing of a Dior couture spring 2004 Nefertiti show, fashion People would have gone nuts over it.