Alessandro Michele - Designer, Creative Director of Valentino

[PDFSD]

wow really???...why? Jacopo Venturini push AM too much or what?.....i don't know if they gonna let go AM....but that strategy(bringing AM to Valentino) didn't work out for sure....

the talks in office is that they are not speaking to each other now, i assume its that they don't have the regular meetings or not seen in same room for a longer than average period.

both are diva´s and both have strong ideas and that was the clash as well at gucci as Venturini left .
Venturini is a prada school guy so has vision on collections product windows etc much like bertelli he needs the creative to set the tone and he then tweaks things to fit market commercial needs in his vision .
he would launch collections parallel to AM big collections and AM got pissed after a while is the short story.

its also happening again at gucci Cantino is also a prada guy and control and power is key, he is over seeing also the collections development they told me, normally a ceo or president see the start and the end result with not much pushing back comments or guidance more advising on the business needs and etc


funny both companies have gay ceo `s and cd´s its going to be dramatic lol

 

[Xone]

the talks in office is that they are not speaking to each other now, i assume its that they don't have the regular meetings or not seen in same room for a longer than average period.

both are diva´s and both have strong ideas and that was the clash as well at gucci as Venturini left .
Venturini is a prada school guy so has vision on collections product windows etc much like bertelli he needs the creative to set the tone and he then tweaks things to fit market commercial needs in his vision .
he would launch collections parallel to AM big collections and AM got pissed after a while is the short story.

its also happening again at gucci Cantino is also a prada guy and control and power is key, he is over seeing also the collections development they told me, normally a ceo or president see the start and the end result with not much pushing back comments or guidance more advising on the business needs and etc


funny both companies have gay ceo `s and cd´s its going to be dramatic lol

Oh boy! drama drama drama....and it doesn't help that the sales are not good...

 

[ellearchivist]

Do you think the CEO might get rid of him? Surely too early??? But if sales are bad and the air is toxic then…

 

[PDFSD]

na too early ..just two divas flexing it will be fine :-)

 

[JohannesL]

At this stage, I don't mind Venturini pulling an CD role as a co-designer for the brand and stopping Michelle on his ego trip as the Gucci 2.0 formular didn't work as expected.

 

[Frederic01]

The Resort collection is currently 20% off at MrPorter. It doesn't look like it is selling at all, with most sizes available...

 

[PDFSD]

At this stage, I don't mind Venturini pulling an CD role as a co-designer for the brand and stopping Michelle on his ego trip as the Gucci 2.0 formular didn't work as expected.

you know what i agree this time even if i don't like business side playing creative but in this case what would make the new valentino work is more focus and toned down styling ..the brand went from empty modern minimal feminin to pile it on exuberant overstyling vintage creative explosion


the best is something of both worlds in one.

 

[reese06]

The Resort collection is currently 20% off at MrPorter. It doesn't look like it is selling at all, with most sizes available...

Wow, when his Gucci launched, it didn't go on sale for a few seasons. Although some things did end up in outlets

I wonder if Valentino execs thought they would have the same success with him.

 

[Xone]

I pass today and apparently they are moving via Montenapolone’s boutique (women and men) to Via Santo Spirito….not sure if it’s temporary or not…

 

[proseccotabis]

the talks in office is that they are not speaking to each other now, i assume its that they don't have the regular meetings or not seen in same room for a longer than average period.

both are diva´s and both have strong ideas and that was the clash as well at gucci as Venturini left .
Venturini is a prada school guy so has vision on collections product windows etc much like bertelli he needs the creative to set the tone and he then tweaks things to fit market commercial needs in his vision .
he would launch collections parallel to AM big collections and AM got pissed after a while is the short story.

its also happening again at gucci Cantino is also a prada guy and control and power is key, he is over seeing also the collections development they told me, normally a ceo or president see the start and the end result with not much pushing back comments or guidance more advising on the business needs and etc


funny both companies have gay ceo `s and cd´s its going to be dramatic lol

damn i LIIIIVEEEE for this drama thank you PDFSD as always you are the best!

I pass today and apparently they are moving via Montenapolone’s boutique (women and men) to Via Santo Spirito….not sure if it’s temporary or not…

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maybe a VM revamp..?