All About Internships and Work Experience Placements

interning for marketing/PR firm you either:

  1. stuff envelopes
  2. make copies
  3. run errands like Starbucks or vending machines
  4. might do some cold-callers but i dont think they'll make you do that too early on in your internship
  5. might answer calls and leave messages
that's just some. depends on the company too. but you get the general view of what to expect.
 
the best advice I can give you: expect to do anything from menial tasks like fetching coffee (i didn't think interns actually did that, but i know now its no urban myth) to assisting a shoot.
 
I have to do a PR placement next year for school- 2 months. No pay
We're allowed to go anywhere and I was wondering instead of just applying in Toronto if I can apply in NYC and other places in the states. Do I still need a working visa?
 
A few words of advice; Enjoy your childhood, you'll have plenty of countless years to be enslaved by the work place. ;)

If rainbowrosa wants to have work experience at a young age, then I say she should go right ahead. Everyone has their own definition of an enjoyable childhood, and for some it involves working.
 
While I don't disagree with you (I worked at 14 a few days a week), I still think kids of that age should focus on other aspects of life and not get too caught up with being an adult. You're only a kid for so long but you're an adult for 6X as long.

I do think it's dubious to want to start something at a young age but I don't think it's going to be detrimental to ones career if one starts at 17 compared to 14.
 
If rainbowrosa wants to have work experience at a young age, then I say she should go right ahead. Everyone has their own definition of an enjoyable childhood, and for some it involves working.
And even if they don't enjoy it, getting involved in something like internships (or externships, which I'm sure are more open to younger people) are a great way to figure out what wants to do eventually. :flower:
 
^ Exactly, and it'll probably prove to be more useful than say, goofing off with friends. Not that I'm criticizing the latter, since both have advantages and disadvantages, but working at a young age will definitely prepare you for some important things in life.
 
freefashioninternships.com, i feel has the best listings that will get you fast answers. everyone my friends applied to got answers immediately.
 
I followed smartarse's advice and wore all black even though i was sweating alot and i think i got the internship but i just need to send them a schedule which will be great. Im so happy i actually took a chance instead of giving up or just going upstate for the summer which is what i usually do
 
Has anyone ever gotten an internship with a designer even if you weren't majoring in fashion design?
 
Has anyone ever gotten an internship with a designer even if you weren't majoring in fashion design?

What position are you interviewing for with which designer?

Lots of designers offer different kinds of internships that focus on different areas of interest...like PR, sales, marketing, web design, etc.
 
I'm not applying yet but was wondering for future reference. I just wondered if designers only wanted interns that were in fashion school so thanks! I wasn't sure if they had different departments like that.
 
well you've both made some really fair comments. i do already kind of work, well i don't know if you could call it working really, but i earn money from it. i work as a coach at my gymnastics. i've been going since i was 5 and when i turned 14 i was asked if i wanted to start learning how to be a coach.

so anyway, although this is not proper work and not the career i would like, i enjoy doing it. so that kinda backs up what seanutbutter said, even though it has nothing to do with fashion lol. but casius i do see where your coming from. i don't necessarily want to start my career this young, but if i did manage to get work experience, i would be able to see what it's really like in the industry, then it might be easier to make up my mind about becoming a fashion journalist, for it might change my mind. as i would still be quite younger, it might be easier to change my career path. but i doubt it as i am extremely determined to become a fashion journalist, it's my dream. some people think just because i'm young, i don't know what i want. that's not true. a lot of girls my age say they 'like fashion' or they want to be a fashion journalist. a lot of them just say that, but i am not. i do and know a lot more than those other girls.

but thanks for both your opinions :]
 
STYLE NOTES: STYLE.COM'S SUMMER INTERNS GUIDE
From style.com
http://www.style.com/trends/stylenotes/060208

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Obey the Dress Code
"What not to wear is often easier to outline," says Vogue senior market editor Meredith Melling Burke. On her list of don'ts: flip-flops, Crocs, ripped jeans, denim shorts, chipped nails, exposed lingerie, and makeup experiments. (Go easy on the eyeliner, Avery!) W magazine executive editor Bridget Foley advises using other office dwellers as a general yardstick of what's appropriate. Even in creative fields, though, you should look like you mean business. "Dress according to the reality of what your day will consist of," advises Teen Vogue fashion director Gloria Baume. "Packing up for shoots and running around to showrooms means comfortable, easy clothes."

But Don't Play It Too Safe
We are talking about the fashion world here, so easy dressing doesn't necessarily mean easy on flair. "Impress me," commands jewelry designer Philip Crangi. And Michael Kors accessories director Richard Sinnott still has fond memories of one ultra-stylish aide. "She looked amazing. I'd say, 'Honey, we're going out to the warehouse to pull vintage. You might want to wear flats,' " he recalls. "She said, 'I don't wear flats.' And sure enough, she's in with her bleach-blond bob, pencil dress, and six-inch patent heels going up and down the ladder." The key here is that she never missed a rung. "Eccentric and flamboyant is amusing, as long as it is balanced with efficiency," says eccentric but efficient Barneys creative director Simon Doonan.

Stay Until the Skinny Lady Sings
Think that working in fashion and publishing means having no life outside work? Good, you're learning. "This is a lifestyle, not a job," says People's Revolution publicity maven Kelly Cutrone. "If you need to leave at 5:30 every day, it's kind of not the right career for you." Casting director Douglas Perrett gives his interns a 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. shift, but reserves the right to go beyond. "This industry can be 24/7," he says. "They need to be accessible." With luck, your commitment won't go unnoticed. "You always get bigger points if you say, 'Hey, I can stay and finish this,' " says Keith Carollo, co-owner of the retailer Fred Flare.

Great Expectations: Check Them at the Door
Remember, there are no such things as small tasks, only small interns. "If you do little things awesome, you'll definitely get bigger opportunities," says Flare. And no matter how beneath your talents you consider stamp-licking or shoe-taping to be, keep a poker face. "No eye rolls" is the request from Costello Tagliapietra's Jeffrey Costello and Robert Tagliapietra. "That's the bane of our existence: the intern eye roll." Miserable after a day at the copier? Baume suggests taking the long view: "Even though on some days it might seem like a thankless, dismal job, when you look back, you will realize how valuable it really was." And if not, you can always use the material for your tell-all blog (or not—see next slide).

Blog With Caution
Your boss might read Gawker obsessively, but that doesn't mean she wants to see her name there. Still, in this new world of online notoriety (and, for that matter, interns) as marketing tool, employers have relaxed their stance on blogging…a bit. "We love when our interns blog about their experiences," says Teen Vogue's Baume. The magazine even provides an area on its Web site to do so, but Baume points out that some things must remain sub rosa. "I'd clear it with your employer," adds Vanity Fair's Fanfair editor, Punch Hutton. "That said, if I knew someone was blogging about their work experience, I'd be reluctant to involve him or her in an important project." Our take: If you're convinced your online musings are juicy enough to land a six-figure, kiss-the-office-goodbye-forever book contract, blog away. Otherwise, find a safer outlet for venting work frustrations, like mixed martial arts.

Master the Art of the Telephone
Right up there on the list of fun intern tasks: answering the phone. And it's harder than it looks, by all accounts. Among the pet peeves we heard from employers: incomplete phone messages, an unfamiliarity with clients' names, and even offering a "Good afternoon" to callers at 10 a.m. Vanity Fair's Hutton advises, "Always answer the phone with a sunny disposition. This doesn't mean singsongy or overly familiar. And always ask for a phone number if your boss isn't there." At PR powerhouse Karla Otto, where a phone is unfailingly answered by a live human being, senior staffer Libby Haan advocates uniformity and manners. "Everyone answers the phone the same way: 'Karla Otto, New York.' Polite and respectful, that's it." Years from now, that "Who? Can you spell Gabbana?" gaffe might make for a funny anecdote, but right now it'll mean a long summer—or a very short one.

Learn by Osmosis
You're not Barbara Walters, and a busy boss has better things to do (lunch at Michael's, checking out that new spa for a two-line front-of-book mention, etc.) than answer all your questions about how she broke into the industry. Still, a savvy intern can pick up tons of intel without a single inquiry—every office has bits of information flying around all day long. "Keep your eyes and ears open," says Vogue's Melling Burke. "Make a point to remember everyone's name. Research the latest collections on Style.com." According to Cutrone, after four weeks of stuffing envelopes, a good intern should be able to tell you where every editor works and the magazine's address. "That's amazing because they've actually been paying attention to detail," she says.

Keep IT in Your Pants, or Your Purse
Get your mind out of the gutter. That's IT as in your information technology. As much as the vibrating siren song of your BlackBerry's IM or thoughts of who might have just poked you on Facebook might call, ignore them like Odysseus should have done if he wanted to get home on time. "Personal phone calls should be the exception, not the rule," says W's Foley. "Cell phones, texting, and IM'ing should take place outside of the office," agrees Vanity Fair's Hutton. "Be wary of giving the impression that there are a million other things you'd rather be doing." IPods, on the other hand, can be welcome under the right circumstances. "We always want to know what the kids are listening to," says Perrett. "Listening to iPods is encouraged, as long as it's on our iPod dock." And for a few open-minded employers, your youthful tech savvy can be a plus all around. Says Barneys' Doonan, "[Interns] should show me all the latest tricks and technology. I consider it their duty to prevent me from becoming an old fart."

Be Seen and Not Heard
Your opinion matters. Just kidding—it doesn't. It may be tempting to chime in with your incisive take on what's happening in front of you, but resist the urge. "It sounds really catty, but my pet peeve is you giving your opinion without being asked," says Kors' Sinnott. "Sometimes interns get a little too involved in their heads," say Costello and Tagliapietra. "They try to work themselves into meetings or listen to phone conversations and voice their opinion. Then you have that oddball who just thinks they're the designer, but there's usually someone to put them in their place, whether it's a stylist or a hairdresser." To avoid being zinged by an up-and-coming Oribe (trust us, the scars can last for years), just remember that silence truly is golden.

So What's In It for You?
An internship is essentially a two-month-long job interview, and a successful intern can reap rewards. "Sometimes an intern impresses you so much that all you want to do is find them a job within the department," says Teen Vogue's Baume. Beyond an immediate job, however, the value of making a good referral is, as they say, priceless. The worlds of fashion publishing, design, and PR are as tight-knit as the stitches on the gash above a hockey player's eye. When hiring, everyone asks for suggestions. "We are very fond of referring our outstanding interns to companies once they are out of school," says Vogue's Melling Burke. "We're very supportive of people who have helped us," say Costello and Tagliapietra. "It's about making connections as much as it is about learning." But don't downplay the educational aspect. "You can't go study any of this stuff," says Cutrone. "The only way to learn is to be in the work environment."
 
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I got an opprtunity to possibly work with a local designer in Boston. along with recomendations and a resume, they want me to come up with a list of things i can do (that the assitant does not already do) that will make me "useful" in this setting.

mind you, I am 16 and this designer does not hand these opportunities to just anyone(actually close to no one at all). I really want to land this so any help would be much appreciated.
 
Have you read through this thread, it-boy? The reason I ask is because this should give you lot's of ideas about what interns actually do and are asked to do. You will find that it's almost always non related (to what the company actually does) grunt work ... stuff they don't want to do and stuff that an intern does not need to be trained for.

I believe that it has to be mutually beneficial ... then it's good for you and good for the company. A new intern is a drain on the boss or whoever is put in charge of them ... because that person must take time to explain things, show you where things are and give you instructions. That all takes time out of their day and it's not worth it if you are not going to be there for an extended time. And you will have a learning curve about how react to the boss's needs, how to be useful, how to stay out of ther way and not take up valuable time, when to ask questions and when to be quiet. So ... yes, if you can make that person's work day easier, it's worth it to them to take the time to help you out a bit.

I prefer an intern who is pro-active. Someone that learns by watching and who quickly learns to anticipate my needs as I move through my working day. Yeah ... it's about the same as being a good assistant. Now, it sounds like the designer has an assistant ... so maybe you can become that assistant's assistant ... doing the simple things like running errands, organizing things, clerical work, like filing or answering phones, ... to free up the assistant to be more available to help his/her boss on more detailed projects.

Without seeing their operation, it's really difficult to know specifically what you can to help them in particular. If it's a huge company ... you'd probably just be working in one department like marketing, PR, the orders desk, or in the sample closet and report to the manager of that department. If it's a small company, you would more likely just be available for anything that came up and you would probably work fairly closely with the designer or his assistant.

Here's some of the most common things an intern would do:

Act as a messenger ... so they would need a car. To move wardrobe from location to location, to run and get lunch, to pick up supplies.

Answer phones, take messages, act as a receptionist.

Clerical and computer stuff ... filing, organizing files, inputing data into a computer data base.

Working in the wardrobe closet (where they keep their samples), keeping things neat and organized, perhaps pulling items from a list from a stylist, steaming and repaiing clothes and putting them all back later.

Work photoshoots and fashion shows, if they do that themselves. Mostly wardrobe work ... help setting up, prepping the clothes (pressing, steaming, simple sewing) and breakdown afterewards , carrying things in and out, setting things up and orgainizing things, acting as a go between/messenger between departments and key personnel.

If the designer does his own manufacturing, you might be asked to work in the plant ... cleaning, being a messenger, moving fabrics and supplies around.

I think the most important thing to impress them is to let them know that you want to be an asset for them, not a drain. You need to work hard, be flexible as their needs change, and have a positive attitude showing that you are happy to do the hard work for them. In turn, you have the opportunity to observe what goes on in the inside and to learn a tiny bit about their business. At best, if you get really lucky ... if they like to teach and you have impressed them enough, you might actually get some really valuable advice about the business. At worst, you will work your tail off and will just have to observe what is going on around you to learn anything about the biz because they won't offer anything helpful.

Good luck ... hope they take you on!
 
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diorable .... your post has been moved to the Networking thread where internship opportunities are posted along with other opps. Thanks for bringing this in!
 
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