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Continues Family of Brands-Carpe Diem, Linea, etc...

I didn't write "not anymore" duke.
they said so when taking orders for A/W 06.
 
that's strange, cos I called up a couple of stores, including the ones in Paris, and as far as they know, the A/W 06 collection is still Maurizio's work... but it would make sense wouldnt it, cos afterall, they are still so many great pieces from his current collection... Who knows, maybe your source has reliable info
 
no one said it's not Maurizio's work duke.
just not what he touched as the latest collection.
but it would not be so fair that the collection was sold without any notice
if someone got it believing it's under the control of Maurizio, as before.
it has been interesting for about ten years to see the pieces keep improved and evolved.
I liked that.
even the items seemingly unchanged were different in the details.
the pattern of the leather shirt differed subtly each season, etc.
I just like it alive, with inspiration
even though it's sometimes a bit too ridiculous.
anyway it stopped.
 
Runner: Does this change affect the Sartoria line as well? Or is it just his C Diem (Leather), L'Maltieri (Knits) lines.
 
Thats really sad news.
I was in Paris ealier this year talking with Mr. Hadida of L'éclaireur. He was telling me even though he (M. Altieri) is on "break" he believes he will start back, but he definitely has other projects in the back of his head.
I really hope C Diem as i love it will not end before i can afford it.^_^:ninja:
 
Sara, Luca, Amadei, those who had received and supported his idea, inspiration and sometimes just a whim left Maurizio, which I guess affected all the lines.
without Amadei, it would be very difficult for Sartoria to come into being, minidestroyer.
and he launched his own label.
the pieces which used to be LMaltieri are labeled Cdiem this season.
another change is that they have consigned it to an agent (wjk) who works in earnest from A/W 06.



Mr. Hadida seems to be one of those who "fostered" Maurizio, *sayan.
apparently once there was an issue that Maurizio stole his Paul Harnden jacket.
if he believes so, Maurizio may devote himself to it sometime again.
there is no certainty about Maurizio, for better or worse.
 
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Maurizio stole Mr. Hadida's Paul Harnden jacket?

say what runner?

well im definitely looking forward to Amadei's lines, I saw some SL pieces in l'eclaieur and it didnt reach me, Something about being too designed. Some pieces of CdG are VERY designed, but feel right considering theyr approach. But SL was somewhat in between minimal and decorated, however it's just the begining for her.
Did you get to visit the Tokyo l'éclaireur runner? I heard about all the new setup, and the racks that appear out of the darkness, something also about private salons.
 
yes had a look in at it. it looked cool although apparently the stuff for the first season seemed a mere jab to me.
I'm looking forward to the next season more.
 
Jude Law sporting a bit of the CDiem leather shirt (yea, I'm bored at work...)

from http://www.brilliance.nu/

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SL (by sara who used to do geometric/linea etc)
from boutiquew.com



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hello, may i ask, does it mean Mr. Maurizio will stop making C Diem for a while like carol christian poell?
 
I don't know, but maybe it's not like CCP.
he didn't leave it to other people. although he has been involved in some other brands now and then, and even when he was on sabbatical, probably he has been thinking about what he will do within CCP collection.

strictly speaking, from some precedents, it could happen that Maurizio does something for the fall, all of a sudden inspired.
once they said to the stores that there would be no collection for the next season.
but they did it after all.
also what you see at the presentation can be a bit different when it arrives.
when inspired, he follows it at once. maybe I was talking about the business commitment here long ago.
so you may see some traces of his sudden touch in the fall. no one knows.
but I don't think that will happen this time.
he seems to be thinking about the new project which is to come out next year.
plus Cdiem is not officially what it used to be, and is not his own little world at least till the contract expires. apparenty someone else outside can even add new design to it eventually (not yet, but they are planning to do it).
actually one of the stores carrying it from the early days decided not to buy it, and you will see it at some unexpected stores instead.
 
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runner said:
Sara, Luca, Amadei, those who had received and supported his idea, inspiration and sometimes just a whim left Maurizio, which I guess affected all the lines.
without Amadei, it would be very difficult for Sartoria to come into being, minidestroyer.
and he launched his own label.
the pieces which used to be LMaltieri are labeled Cdiem this season.
another change is that they have consigned it to an agent (wjk) who works in earnest from A/W 06.



Mr. Hadida seems to be one of those who "fostered" Maurizio, *sayan.
apparently once there was an issue that Maurizio stole his Paul Harnden jacket.
if he believes so, Maurizio may devote himself to it sometime again.
there is no certainty about Maurizio, for better or worse.

i'm not quite understanding all of this... from the impression i'm getting is that cdiem is not owned my maurizio and that he was actually under contract to the owner and now the contract is expiring he's not renewing it? i thought he founded cdiem? sorry if this history was posted in previous pages but i never read anything about this.

and this <wjk>: this is the japan wjk? that claims he used to work for altieri? although quite newly launched, the wjk collections are filled with cdiem-like pieces... filled with cdiem shadows... and now they're officially producing cdiem? not quite getting it... please explain.

thanks.
 
almost the reverse is the case except that he founded it with some influential persons behind him.
it used to be where he had his own way in everything.
but now some people from outside are officially involved in the running of it.

wjk was originally sort of the tokyo branch showroom of it.
and the man, who was working for it, was left the showroom (named wjk) to.
but after about a year the contract was not renewed and he started to sell his clothes there and labeled them wjk. and now wjk, as an agent/pr, is consigned it to.
 
runner said:
almost the reverse is the case except that he founded it with some influential persons behind him.
it used to be where he had his own way in everything.
but now some people from outside are officially involved in the running of it.

wjk was originally sort of the tokyo branch showroom of it.
and the man, who was working for it, was left the showroom (named wjk) to.
but after about a year the contract was not renewed and he started to sell his clothes there and labeled them wjk. and now wjk, as an agent/pr, is consigned it to.

Hmm... one of the big reasons why I really like the CDiem line is because of Altieri and the mystique surrounding him. If it's being taken over by some other random people then it's just... not the same you know? The price tag I associated with his genius use of fabrics and drapes and processing. If it's just people at CDiem replicating what he did... then it's almost like you're just buying a shadow of what the line used to embody.

Ah well, at least you can still get past season items in stores because of their "never goes on sale" rule hahaha
 
i'm not so sure about the validity of 'cdiem never goes on sale' because i've seen ALOT of cdiem pieces slashed 40-50% off at 'maxfield blue' in l.a. (maxfield's outlet)... of course the classic pieces weren't there... but there were quite a few coats in all fabrics including leather...
 
surver said:
i'm not so sure about the validity of 'cdiem never goes on sale' because i've seen ALOT of cdiem pieces slashed 40-50% off at 'maxfield blue' in l.a. (maxfield's outlet)... of course the classic pieces weren't there... but there were quite a few coats in all fabrics including leather...
it's a rule that is supposed to be followed, but doesn't have to. stores are a business after all - some people don't care. smaller boutiques, such as A and IF tend to follow it. Barneys didn't.
 
fashion as art, this might be a subject prolific of debate.
Rei would answer in the negative if asked about CdG, e.g. by some interviewer who is a stranger to her. but at bottom heart, fashion as art might be her real intentions.
at least, I guess it's her ideal.
but actually there are too many other people's efforts or discretions involved there for her to proclaim it's an art in the single name of Rei Kawakubo
that might be one of the reasons she hesitates to say it's an art officially.

Maurizio too seems to have sometimes tried to do things which had such an effect as art.
and probably he experienced some conflicts since there are people out there who have various views on fashion.
in the next project, to progress more freely, he may show some "evolved" results. no one konws.
 

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